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Old 03-05-2012, 08:06 PM
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Loved the Monty Python, obviously we might wish to influence, but our little forum can't influence the World Stage of Politics...we may get help but it is in the lap of the gods and playing a good game of Chess...we play long odds...it is better than not playing at all!

No nation brought us to the point that we like bringing other nations down by our science, we are at crossroads of having the ability of making life on Earth impossible...history analysis is important....not sure we can stop the World Stage by our analysis of how we have developed in regards to history...we try, but perhaps we will get help from another mysterious source...i only hope!

In the end, monks hope, but whatever, record history... it is what they have always done...good monks don't look for power, it corrupts, we record history, hopefully in an unbiased manner regarding all nations!
Dude...who asked you to stick your nose in American Politics?

This forum is open to all but to come tell my fellow American astrologers that we aren't going to make a difference with what we discuss here is...'Stepping over the line" ...and like Merle Haggard said...you're getting on the 'fighting side of me'!
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...I'm heading to the conventions this summer regardless of what the law says...if 100,000 will follow me ...they will have to back off...
THEY WILL HAVE TO BACK DOWN...!!!!

....remember what the great Mohandas Gandhi and Martin Luther King taught us...

...Keep it peaceful and non violent...watch for instigators esp. watch for infil-gators... and the Devil in 'habits' of undyed wool
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[Old Templar joke that my present and past life buddy, Malakye, just told me...actually, he reminded me...we did used to tell this joke around 1305 in France....]

If you were going to be executed and they offered you a choice of either being burned alive at the stake or having your head chopped off...which would you choose?

My answer?...well, I'd much rather rather be a well done steak than a cold cut...
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[Old Templar joke that my present and past life buddy, Malakye, just told me...actually, he reminded me...we did used to tell this joke around 1305 in France....]
A good joke is timeless
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Hi JupiterAsc,

Yes the old Templar Joke is very funny!

Jacques de Molay was arrested on Friday 13th October 1307, however it has great symbolism to masons, and those of a secret faith.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_de_Molay

It is hardly astonishing that it is a date connected to the White House, centuries later, construction started on the White House on 13th October 1792, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House

I can almost hear the gallop of Templar horses into Washington D.C. Ha Ha!

At midnight day marker on 13th October 1792 in Washington D.C., Sirius was rising by accurate astronomy in the East, graph on attachment, you may have to left click on image several times to make clearer!

Some monks have been corrupted and look for power, i'm not one of these, i give clear history, please read link below by me about "Counter Reformation":-

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This is all about the "Precedent" that occurred in the 19th century that has been used by the courts ever since to ensure 'corporate person-hood'





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_C...cific_Railroad








[...there are two thing s that gotta go this year...Presidents and precedents...IMHO...of course!]
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Hi JupiterAsc,
It was Sirius Culminating over Philadelphia at the midnight day marker on 31st December 1781 when the first bank in America was chartered by The Congress of the Confederation.
http://explorepahistory.com/hmarker....rkerId=1-A-207
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Monk, the New York Stock Exchange must be central to daily transaction flows of trillions of dollars... It was created three years and 17 days after George Washington was inaugurated first President in lower Manhattan when a group of 24 investment "bankers" met under a buttonwood tree and simply agreed in a gentlemanly arrangement to only trade with one another. This simple agreement grew into the largest capital market the world has ever known. The New York Stock Exchange reverences this moment - claiming a folksy ethos akin to some neighborhood pals getting together to share their garden produce... but the reality is that these men were of the higher genteel class of the nation's second-largest metropolitan seaport and are comparable to today's billionaire class.

New York at that time was not only Capital City of USA but also the seat of government and as a result was experiencing rapid economic and population growth.
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Joke, give a poor old man time, JupiterAsc, PiercetheVale mentions Southern Pacific Railway.

Two links below, read under "History" with Both!

Points:- Harrisburg was annexed under Houston in 1926, thus why i use Houston as a fix.

B) The origin of Southern Pacific Railway was "The Buffalo Bayou, Brazos and Colorado Railway.

C) Although chartered on 11th Feb. 1850, it seems to be organized on 1st June 1850, Ancient greek day marker, sunset of previous day (31st May 1850) Sun sets with Alnilam by accurate astronomy at location, graph on attachment.

D) one of the two links mentions 1st Jan. 1853 when it become operative, midnight day marker...Sirius Culminating, graph on attachment, you may have to left click on image several times to make larger and clearer.

Links below, with both look under "History":-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvest...ntonio_Railway

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrisburg,_Houston

Obviously nothing more than "Synchronicity" (acid comment) Ha Ha!
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This is all about the "Precedent" that occurred in the 19th century that has been used by the courts ever since to ensure 'corporate person-hood'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_C...cific_Railroad [...there are two thing s that gotta go this year...Presidents and precedents...IMHO...of course!]
Noam Chomsky speaking in 2011 on 'corporate personhood' - QUOTE: "the meaning of the 14th Amendment was expanded so that 'person' included corporations and how over the years corporations have gotten rights that are way beyond those of persons of flesh and blood" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no8zxGPyapU
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Hi JupiterAsc,

With the Buttonwood Agreement, it was signed on 17th May 1792, however i would look to constitution that was drafted on 8th March 1817, after all it is a constitution that creates rules....Egyptian day marker, sunrise applied, as Sun rose, Alnilam was on Nadir, 18 seconds outside one degree, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttonwood_Agreement

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Hi JupiterAsc,

Obviously a lot of countries have aligned in a similiar fashion, however i thought it would interest that the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was established using same alignment, it started with aligning the Isis-Urania Temple on 1st March 1888, (Different date because of different location to New York).
Please scroll down to third paragraph on link:-

http://www.byzant.com/Mystical/Scrip...oldenDawn.aspx

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read this...USA natal Part of Transformation is at 09* Aries 29" 49" ...Uranus will be there next April... The entire event chart is mind blowing...
transiting Pluto conj. USA natal M.C....!!!!!! .... trans. Jupiter conj.USA natal Uranus... WOW......Mars conj. my natal Venus...trans. Venus conj. the Magical 14th of Aries!

WE have a year to 'TURN IT IN ANOTHER DIRECTION'

...the 10th of Aries symbol you ask?
...go take a look see for your self.
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Former president of the World Bank, James Wolfensohn, makes stunning confessions as he address graduate students at Stanford university. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOwZw...eature=related

James Wolfensohn reveals the inside hand of world domination from past, to the present and into the future. the speech was made January 11th, 2010. the next 19 minutes may open your mind to a very deliberate world! He tells the grad students what's coming, "a tectonic shift" in wealth from the west to the east. but he doesn't tell the students that it is his institution, the world bank, that's directing and channelling these changes. Wolfensohn's own investment firm is in china, poised to profit from this "imminent shift" in global wealth.


see full speech: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcprhpv-v54
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...pardon my interruption of the 'Star' fixation going on between the two of you.
But, would either of you gentlemen have a time/place event chart for the moment of the Stock Market Crash of '29....

...[a few minutes later]..never mind. The opening bell for the Stock Exchange on Oct. 24, 1929 was at 9:30 est and for Philadelphia, Penn. [the birthplace of the USA regardless of day or time] this event chart emerges.
When I compare it to the USA natal chart I've produced for 12:00':01" July 4, 1776 Philadelphia, Penn.

...interesting ...

(1) trans. Pluto @ 19* Cancer 38' is square the USA natal Part of Bankruptcy [Jupiter + Neptune - Uranus] @ 19* Libra 17' 39"... [and so is the vertex and the Moon....]

(2)...the USA natal chart produces a Part of Basis [Asc. + Part of Spirit - Part of Fortune {day formula}] @ 13* Sag. 07' 15" and Saturn had conj. that exact degree on Sept. 13th [a Thursday...] in the previous year 1928 ... Jupiter had conj. the USA natal Part of Discord [Asc. + Jupiter - Mars] @ 05* Taurus 22' 37" on July 02, 1928.


...other obsv.s South Node conj. USA natal Part of Service @ 13* Scorpio 48' 34" [the USA natal Part of Catastrophe is 17* Taurus 44' 11"]
...the USA natal Part of Fortune is 25* Scorpio 40' 42"
...the Usa natal Part of Hyleg [Asc. + Natal Moon - New or Full Moon prior to birth ...] is 28* Taurus 07' 16"...

...and there's Uranus just about conj. with the USA natal Part of Transformation ...and more... I'll study it some more tomorrow.
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Green cabbage for the Green Party - Blueberries for Republicans - Democrats better like beetroot - Offer Liberals Lemons, alternatively some may prefer cantaloupe melon
My vote goes to razz-berries for both the Republicans and the Democrats!
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Whooops...my bad...caught you're attention though didn't it
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Hi Piercethevale,

I always follow what you say with interest, i'm not against any interpretation by Sabian Symbols, however you say i have star fixation, which isn't true, i have electional astrology fixation, fixed stars are what came out of deep study of history.

Sometimes i wonder why you counter, obviously Charubel (John Thomas) influenced Marc Edmond Jones, however he was influenced by groups like the Golden Dawn, and did establish occult groups like Theosophy, all these groups had Sirius Fixation.

Please scroll down to "Vol. VIII Issue 3 (July 2000) on link below by Kim Farnell, she was a moderator on Skyscript Astrology Forum, well respected as JupiterAsc knows, he has made references to it:-

http://www.theohistory.org/descripti...issues_v8.html

Marc Edmund Jones was introduced to Theosophy by an aunt, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Edmund_Jones

Most know with Theosophy, there is a Sirius Fixation.

Dane Rudhyar was heavily influenced by Theosophy, when he published his take on Sabian Symbols in 1973/4, link below scroll down:-

http://daileyrarebooks.com/DaneRudhyarBibliography.htm

Obviously Charubel (John Thomas) Marc Edmund Jones and Dane Rudhyar all made different interpretations for the degrees...although i respect all of them it becomes difficult to know who is right?

I think you use Dane Rudhyar interpretation, established in 1970's, why would i look to Rudhyar, if i'm looking for electional astrology before then?

http://sabian.org/sabian_symbols.php

Kim Farnell on Cherubel:-

http://www.kimfarnell.co.uk/charubel1.htm

I respect Sabian Symbols but can't use them in electional astrology before 1970's not only that all have different interpretation, Charubel below:-

http://www.auxmaillesgodefroy.com/charubel_degrees

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JupiterAsc often makes a reference to Skyscript astrology forum, a long time ago i did write there in 2006, please note that link below was before i made the connection to Thebes/Luxor alignment to sunset at 17:19pm on 31st December 0046 BC regarding Julian Calendar, links to graphs below, showing Sun setting and Sirius rising on different links, Cleopatra was Greek, so later i looked for Ancient Greek Day Marker to 1st January 0045 BC, that is 31st December 0046 BC at sunset.

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3839&mode=view

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3840&mode=view

Link to Early Skyscript thread below, disregard comments about non-alignment of Julian Calendar in 0045 BC:-

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1926

Obviously i know about Sabian Symbols, but i'm hardly going to include if i'm looking for electional astrology before Dane Rudhyars book in 1970's

Yes i have the book, on attachment.
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I am the reincarnation of Parsival my Moslem friend. I was a Knight Templar in 14th century France. I believe the true and rightful first church of Christianity to be at Glastonbury. St. Joseph and James, brother of Yeshua/Jesus came to Glastonbury in 42 AD.... about 7 years after the Crucifixion ...they took local wives. The bloodline of the House of David runs in the veins of many an Englishman and God only knows where all else after 2000 years. My mother is a direct descendant of Richard Hough of Cheshire, England ...one of Wm. Penns right hand men. ...Cheshire is just north of Glastonbury.
The reincarnation of Parsival was predicted for the new millenia by Trevor Ravenscroft and Rudolph Steiner. ...it has something to do with the 1200 year cycle of Venus/Sun conjunctions. "Parsival is Knight of the Word, Knight of the Sun, Knight of the Sword ...and He whom reads the 'Starry Script' "
. ...and the bloodline of the House of David must run in His veins.... we are particularly affected by astrology according to Trevor..my clairvoyant, Clarisse Conner, confirmed my blood line and said, as to the astrology affect; "It's in the DNA".
I achieved 'Samyama' with the Holy Word OM in the summer of '68...I have been doing Sun Pujas in Sanskrtit for many years and have manifested siddis from the practice.... I had the 'baddest backhand ' in Tennis ...ever.... and I am
piercethevale ...at your service!

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Everyone agrees the system is corrupt and broken at all levels, but which direction is it to be taken in? How is the problem to be ameliorated?
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...to me it's; "Uncle Yeshua" [Uncle Jesus] ....Capiche?
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Everyone agrees the system is corrupt and broken at all levels, but which direction is it to be taken in? How is the problem to be ameliorated?
read my thread on Uranus conj. USA natal Part of Transformation...
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...to me it's; "Uncle Yeshua" [Uncle Jesus] ....Capiche?
I'm down with Jesus. I was raised very Christian - so Christian though that I sort of took the route of seeing all spiritual systems as spokes leading to the same central hub that is God. But, while I recognize all spiritual systems as having their own eternal truths, in terms of my own relationship with God - I consider myself something of a Gnostic or Hermetic Christian.

I agree that spiritual enlightenment is essential to solving the dilemma humanity is finding itself in.
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I'm down with Jesus. I was raised very Christian - so Christian though that I sort of took the route of seeing all spiritual systems as spokes leading to the same central hub that is God. But, while I recognize all spiritual systems as having their own eternal truths, in terms of my own relationship with God - I consider myself something of a Gnostic or Hermetic Christian.

I agree that spiritual enlightenment is essential to solving the dilemma humanity is finding itself in.
...way cool... I too have called Gnostic, Melchizedekian, [prob. or poss. the same as Hermes ... or that of Enoch ... depending on what source.] I most recently studying some of the most obscure sects still in existence in Persia that sprang from Zoroastrian origins such as Mani and Manicheanism, Mazdakites, Khurramism etc. Lot's of Gnostic influences mixing with the 'Ancient Legends and Knowledge' and was bringing much need new understanding of old lessons and ways forgotten or neglected.
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JupiterAsc often makes a reference to Skyscript astrology forum, a long time ago i did write there in 2006, please note that link below was before i made the connection to Thebes/Luxor alignment to sunset at 17:19pm on 31st December 0046 BC regarding Julian Calendar, links to graphs below, showing Sun setting and Sirius rising on different links, Cleopatra was Greek, so later i looked for Ancient Greek Day Marker to 1st January 0045 BC, that is 31st December 0046 BC at sunset.

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3839&mode=view

http://2012forum.com/forum/download/...3840&mode=view

Link to Early Skyscript thread below, disregard comments about non-alignment of Julian Calendar in 0045 BC:-

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1926

Obviously i know about Sabian Symbols, but i'm hardly going to include if i'm looking for electional astrology before Dane Rudhyars book in 1970's

Yes i have the book, on attachment.
...I have a question for you.
Do you ever utilize any fixed stars South of the Equator? How about any that can't be seen from the Northern Hemisphere at all?
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Hi Piercethevale,

As always you are wrong, i'm not Moslem, indeed as moderators know my name address and phone number have been posted if you ever looked, like looking for posts involving Southern Hemisphere, please scroll down to thread section #157 on link below involving Australia:-

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...p?t=947&page=7

I study the oldest of all astrology:-
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10705808

I value all religions or variations as long as they behave themselves, for Christian variations please scroll down link below to "Early Modern Forms and Modern Forms":-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoteric_Christianity

Thus now you know why when looking for electional astrology, i rarely look to Sabian Symbols, the interpretation that you use came from 1970's, however very useful in unconscious astrology not intended electional astrology.
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