Difficulty interpreting a Yod involving particular planets

[Edwyn]

I have read quite a lot about Yods now and find it very difficult to understand how they apply to a particular set of planets in a very tight Yod. Here is a typical statement I found "The sextile shows us what's being productively aligned, while the inverse midpoint shows how this productivity is being focused." What does that mean?

The natal chart is attached. Mercury and Neptune are in sextile and Saturn is the 'nozzle' Does this mean the Responsibility and inhibition of Saturn is imposed on the Intellect and communication of Mercury and the Receptivity and sensitivity of Neptune? Or will it be the Reserve of Saturn imposed on the imagination of Neptune and the intellect of Mercury? How can you refine this?

Also I understand that my friend should have a better 2nd half to their life, (37 y.o. now so it might happen soon) when they learn to use the uncertainty and searching bought on by a Yod to their advantage. How do they make that transition? Can I assist them somehow?

Yods are complex and I do not get much consistency in the literature ( I have "The Yod Book") and other sources on how they are interpreted.

Thx. Ed

Thx.

[piscesascendant]

Originally Posted by Edwyn

I have read quite a lot about Yods now and find it very difficult to understand how they apply to a particular set of planets in a very tight Yod. Here is a typical statement I found "The sextile shows us what's being productively aligned, while the inverse midpoint shows how this productivity is being focused." What does that mean?

The natal chart is attached. Mercury and Neptune are in sextile and Saturn is the 'nozzle' Does this mean the Responsibility and inhibition of Saturn is imposed on the Intellect and communication of Mercury and the Receptivity and sensitivity of Neptune? Or will it be the Reserve of Saturn imposed on the imagination of Neptune and the intellect of Mercury? How can you refine this?

Also I understand that my friend should have a better 2nd half to their life, (37 y.o. now so it might happen soon) when they learn to use the uncertainty and searching bought on by a Yod to their advantage. How do they make that transition? Can I assist them somehow?

Yods are complex and I do not get much consistency in the literature ( I have "The Yod Book") and other sources on how they are interpreted.

Thx. Ed

Thx.

Interesting...

First of all, Happy Birthday to your friend. If I assessed their chart correctly, we're about the same age. Looks I was born just two to three weeks prior. I also have Pisces rising (as my name says), and all mutable angles. I also have a Yod with two of the three planets shown (Neptune and Saturn [also in retrograde]) in the same houses no less. Your friend and I could have a very similar outlook on life My third planet (actually luminary) is my Aquarius Moon, but my Mercury is so close to it it could count I guess.

Believe it or not, I also own a copy of "The Yod Book." But you're right, there really isn't much in the way of literature that really covers this well. At least not from what I've seen. If you wanted to, have your friend swap notes with me via private message, if you don't mind giving them use of your profile. Don't think I've ever come across anyone on here this close in age to me before (or their friend) who holds an interesting in astrology. Could be enlightening/educational to see what we get out of it. Let me know. I'm game.


By the way, my chart (to compare):

http://www.astro.com/cgi/showgif.cgi...2s-u1059630281

[Claire19]

Originally Posted by Edwyn

I have read quite a lot about Yods now and find it very difficult to understand how they apply to a particular set of planets in a very tight Yod. Here is a typical statement I found "The sextile shows us what's being productively aligned, while the inverse midpoint shows how this productivity is being focused." What does that mean?

The natal chart is attached. Mercury and Neptune are in sextile and Saturn is the 'nozzle' Does this mean the Responsibility and inhibition of Saturn is imposed on the Intellect and communication of Mercury and the Receptivity and sensitivity of Neptune? Or will it be the Reserve of Saturn imposed on the imagination of Neptune and the intellect of Mercury? How can you refine this?

Also I understand that my friend should have a better 2nd half to their life, (37 y.o. now so it might happen soon) when they learn to use the uncertainty and searching bought on by a Yod to their advantage. How do they make that transition? Can I assist them somehow?

Yods are complex and I do not get much consistency in the literature ( I have "The Yod Book") and other sources on how they are interpreted.

Thx. Ed

Thx.

a yod is only a formation or a pattern and I take each planet's merits and aspects on their own. What you ask is very complex and we are talking about a third party to boot. You need to see a professional astrologer for what you seek.

[piscesascendant]

Originally Posted by Claire19

a yod is only a formation or a pattern and I take each planet's merits and aspects on their own. What you ask is very complex and we are talking about a third party to boot. You need to see a professional astrologer for what you seek.

They could do that. Also, as you've seen, I'm close in age to the third party, with the same aspects listed, same ascendant and angles, and have mentioned I'd be happy to share my interpretation one-on-one.

[miquar]

HI. Yes a tight yod, and also Saturn is in a grand trine and the focal planet in a t-square if you allow the wide orbs.

As Claire says, an aspect is an aspect. Planets in aspect will always try to impose their values on one another, especially when the planets are quite different by nature. In this yod, Mercury is in one of Saturn's signs, suggesting that Mercury and Saturn will be friends while Neptune will have to do its best loosen the grip of Mercury Saturn rationality. However, although the Moon is in Virgo, the chart is very Neptunian due to the Sun and Ascendant in Pisces, and Saturn is in water. Also Mercury is in Neptune's house and in harmonious aspect to Neptune.

So I seem to keep coming back to a theme of integrating the chaotic imaginative realm of Neptune Pisces with the more rational realm of earth and air. This is perhaps also reiterated by Moon in Virgo closely opposite Jupiter in Pisces.

[StillOne]

Originally Posted by Edwyn

"The sextile shows us what's being productively aligned, while the inverse midpoint shows how this productivity is being focused." What does that mean?

I have yods in my chart and my current belief is that where a quincunx requires an "adjustment" and is largely under-the-radar/unconscious/subconscious, the yod energies may provide so much internal energy that it requires an external "outlet" (the apex). I think in this way a Yod can be "satisfied" by external action/direction to relieve the internal stresses. I think this is why Yods can be extremely productive/powerful since when you find the "solution" to the yod, the native is compelled to drive in this direction since it provides a sense of relief. The search happens in the first place beacuse the native can't appease these internal energies. When this is resolved, the native finally feels at peace and much insight has been gained along the way.

I also have a Saturn apex yod. However, mine is in the 12th Cancer (equal/placidus house). My current assessment of this placement is that it requires discipline in spiritual matters. This is a recent finding so we'll see if this ends up "satisfying" this placement in the long run... The base is Jupiter sexitle Venus conjunct Neptune. So I can see how my Yod would be spiritual in that sense.

I am currently 38 years old and may have finally found the solution to my Yod situation. It'll be interesting to see how this will manifest as I age.

I think transits are very important to watch as they can bring new insight into the nature of the yods. You may conisder posting a transit chart as well.

[Edwyn]

Here is my friends' graphical ephemeris for 2012. As you can see no hard aspects to her apex planet Saturn during 2012. From my understanding it is normally Sun or Mars that triggers an event when a slower moving planet is transiting the same natal planet. But without a slow moving planet transiting natal Saturn not much is likely to manifest and externalize any internal tension.

My friend did have a Saturn sq Saturn Nov 2010, Apr and Jul 2011 which was pretty traumatic. But I know nothing was resolved.

This has been an interesting exercise, I have some further understanding of what might be the area affected by this yod. But it certainly is complex...

Ed