Anyone care to guess this person's Ascendant?

[DeLaSoul]

Originally Posted by hknt99

ok so you dont get into arguments with a person who has his mercury in a same degree with pluto in scorpio 8th house ( me ) ..... was you(DeLaSoul) serious?

I know what the Ascendant means. Honestly, I could care less about kanye west, or your pluto conjunction. I'm simply just contributing to a thread. ASC and any planet aspecting the ASC will affect facial shape/features.

First of all, we don't even know 2pac's ascending sign. He has Jupiter/Neptune aspect. Maybe this is the similarity you perceive btwn him & kanye.

He comes off a bit nervous to me, strives to be avant garde.

[hknt99]

the reason i mention 2pac is that they are both in a same industry and they are both gemini and in similar ways they try to attract attention (this is what i think and see).
the reason that i mention your name was that you said that he interrupt the awards because he have to tell his opinion which is lol

kanye west has jaw surgery

[Love2Know]

I figured it out Kayne West has d bag rising lolllllllll sorry

[serafin5]

Originally Posted by hknt99

ok so you dont get into arguments with a person who has his mercury in a same degree with pluto in scorpio 8th house ( me )
in case you didnt get to the point of studying what ascendant means i will clear you.

"The Ascendant (or rising sign) is often considered the mask one wears when meeting others."

it doesnt take much after seeing this interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMxHfmXKVU
to say that HE IS SHY and he behaves in a typical virgo way
also it makes more sense that his neptune is in 3rd house

what makes you think he is sag anyway? as sagittarius my self i recognize sagittarius behaviour and the "incidents" kanye made were gemini incidents just like 2pac was doing so with a motive that after, he will be liked more (especially by the black community) and his name will be bigger and he will have more albums sold, not that his opinions are that important was you(DeLaSoul) serious?
if he was sagittarius asc he would share his stupid philosophies (like i do) and he would be able to see the big picture after these stupid things he made.but he didnt...
*edit*
im sorry if i sound mean in any way i dont mean it im used to be in forums with little kids and im sarcastic a little sometimes, here are some very old people (around 50 ) and i might be offensive for them sometimes.. and i apologize if i am

You are right; you did sound a bit sarcastic and defensive, but I'm not madd at you; hell, I got nothin BUT love for you. I have been studying ast. for a long time and I know what a rising sign is. It was just my opinion, that doesnt agree with yours apparantly, that I feel he is sportin a mutable rising. "Mutable" as in "Mutable Communicator", such as Gemini or Saggi. Celebrities are prepped before interviews by their managers and such so they can put their best face forward so to speak ESPECIALLY after public outbursts (such as his numerous ones that have been). But kidding around aside it was only an intuitive guess; not an educated one.

Hope I didnt offend.
Serafin5

[serafin5]

Originally Posted by Love2Know

I figured it out Kayne West has d bag rising lolllllllll sorry

"d bag rising"???????????????????????????? Care to elaborate?

[Love2Know]

It was a weeeeee joke ahahaha (kinda)

[serafin5]

Originally Posted by hknt99

the reason i mention 2pac is that they are both in a same industry and they are both gemini and in similar ways they try to attract attention (this is what i think and see).
the reason that i mention your name was that you said that he interrupt the awards because he have to tell his opinion which is lol

kanye west has jaw surgery

P.S. Swear to Gawd; this is completely true! Google him and see what were talking about. Sorry. You could still be right about his rising sign I just dont see all those gentle, polite qualities of that sign in him at all (virgo).

Sorry.

[serafin5]

Originally Posted by Love2Know

It was a weeeeee joke ahahaha (kinda)

Sometimes my Scorpio Asc is slow; I dont get it. Any clues?

[Love2Know]

I was basically comparing him and his whole demeanor to a bad word.......

[hknt99]

ok im glad i was little intoxicated serafin5
i love you aqua people my mom my grandma and most of my true best friends are aquarius... <3

but still kanyes asc is virgo

[serafin5]

Originally Posted by Love2Know

I was basically comparing him and his whole demeanor to a bad word.......

[serafin5]

Originally Posted by hknt99

ok im glad i was little intoxicated serafin5
i love you aqua people my mom my grandma and most of my true best friends are aquarius... <3

but still kanyes asc is virgo

I give up. Intoxicated? Is that like saying "the dog ate my homework" or something?

[Moog]

Gemini.

Might sound odd, but I look at the brow shape.

[Love2Know]

Interesting Moog, how do you determine which brow shape is for which ascendant?

[Moog]

Just some observations of my own. Collect a bunch of pics of people with the same ascendant and then look for patterns.

Women can be a bit harder to guess like this, cos they often give their eyebrows an artificial shape, which can obscure things a bit.

Kannon has some theories about face shapes and ascendant signs on this site, might like to look those up, quite interesting.

I'm not personally convinced of the foolproof-ness of determining ascendant from physical characteristics, but it does feel like there are subtle, yet detectable patterns.

[Moog]

Originally Posted by Love2Know

Interesting Moog, how do you determine which brow shape is for which ascendant?

Specifically, Gemini ascendant people seem to me to have kinda straight, flat brows.

[Love2Know]

I find gemini gives pointedness to features.

[*emma*]

My first impression looking at the bottom left picture was virgo, very neat, high forehead but the dreamy look and finely balanced face - good looks - made me think libra, he is a very stylishly dressed rapper as well, very slick performances, smoochy love songs, so i voted libra

scorpio could be possible

[Kannon]

Kanye has 29 LEO on the Asc. Leo rising is pretty easy considering his behavior, being in show business (hip-hop performance/music production, fashion). Notice his rectangular face that is actually bolder at the lower jaw. Fixed sign all the way. Plus the bold personality, even an attention hog. Easy, obvious Leo type, especially since there isn't anything else Leo in the chart (other than Saturn, which doesn't explain him).

Notice Mercury at MC and squaring Asc. Big mouth. Buttinsky. Business is first invested in speaking/communicating.

Mars [11N10] and Pluto [11N22] are Parallel Asc [11N37]. (see astro.com pdf data sheet) - more drive, ambition and dominance-orientation.

VALIDATING PROGRESSIONS AND SOLAR ARCS:

Debut LP "The College Dropout" released 10 February 2004.
(rulerships=5th/Jupiter, MC/Venus)
TRANS:
Uranus opp Asc
PROG:
* pr MC conjunct pr Jupiter <09'>s
* pr Venus (r.MC) [17N05] P pr Saturn [17N06] <01'>a
* pr PF [17N10] P pr Venus and pr Saturn
- pr Moon Q pr Mars <08'>s
SOLAR:
*sa 5th [21S09] P n Neptune [21S02] <07'> - time gap from beginning of recording?
sa Saturn sextile n Uranus <00'>s
sa N.Node trine n Moon <04'>s
sa Chiron square n Asc <03'>s

Mother died 10 November 2007.
(Daytime chart mom = MC/Venus, Asc/Sun - 4th from MC)
PROG:
*pr MC [23N19] P PF [23N21] <02'>
-pr Pluto sesquiquadrate n Mercury <01'>a
SOLAR:
sa Mars Q n Saturn <07'>s
*sa MC [23N21] P sa PF [23N26] <05'>
*sa Mars [19N20] P n MC [19N17] <03'>s
*sa Venus [17N58] P n Saturn [17N54] <04'>s

Arrested 11 September 2008 for felony vandalism in an altercation with paparazzi.
(12th/Sun, Neptune, Asc)
PROG:
pr Moon semi-square pr Jupiter <06'>s
pr Mercury sesquiquadrate pr Neptune <02'>a
pr Pluto sesquiquadrate n Mercury <00'>a
pr PF semi-sextile n Jupiter <06'>a
pr PF quincunx n Neptune <03'>a
SOLAR:
*sa 12th [11N12] P n Mars [11N10] <02'>a
sa Jupiter semi-square n Asc <07'>a
sa Neptune sesquiquadrate n Asc <04'>s
sa Uranus BQ n Venus <03'>a

[identity]

If anything he has to be a leo mid heaven

[jill]

Originally Posted by Kannon

Kanye has 29 LEO on the Asc. Leo rising is pretty easy considering his behavior,..... Fixed sign all the way. Plus the bold personality, even an attention hog. Easy, obvious Leo type, ......
Notice Mercury at MC and squaring Asc. Big mouth. Buttinsky. Business is first invested in speaking/communicating.

Kannon,
thank you for clearing this up for me. You will (or should I say - already are...) a great teacher for those of us who are studying chart rectification and rising signs. The only problem is that you make it look so easy. practice....practice...practice..I know...

I wish you the best on your books and your blog.
take care, jill

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[Kannon]

Thank you, Jill.

[J01951]

The exact birth horoscope

Kanye West
29 May 1977, 17:43:48, (GMT-05:35:34)
Atlanta, Georgia, United States (33°45'25"N 84°23'25"W)

In his strongly expressed the map display passive homosexual.

[jill]

Originally Posted by J01951

The exact birth horoscope

Kanye West
29 May 1977, 17:43:48, (GMT-05:35:34)
Atlanta, Georgia, United States (33°45'25"N 84°23'25"W)

In his strongly expressed the map display passive homosexual.

Just wondering where you came across this birth data?
and how can his 'exact' birth horoscope be 10 days off?
...very curious to know....jill

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[Kannon]

The rectification of Kanye's Leo rising chart (and any chart that I do) is guided by standards - proofs. You can read them here: http://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/20...th-horoscopes/

The 29LEO35 chart (give or take a few minutes of arc) for Kanye was proven in the previous post I made listing the validating aspects with specific horoscopic rulers denoted with an *asterisk. It is rooted in the rulership of the Asc of the head/body, as clearly observable in the pictures of Kanye, showing fixity in the shape of his face/jaw, etc. Ascendant Sign Descriptions: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=25131

His behavior is particularly Leonine, which can hardly be denied by anyone who has seen him in the media and observed his manner. This paired with the physical features points most directly to the sign of Leo or its sympathetic counterpart Aquarius.

The 5th-11th interceptions (widened inclusion of all Capricorn-Cancer) further prove the chart, since that indicates expansion of interest and activities associated with the 5th and 11th houses, creative expression for an audience (music, performance, anything on stage).

You'll notice that I have not claimed to know his unknown private sexual preferences. I have only demonstrated the chart for him using known events from his life. I do so with further events, but it is not necessary. I have also used the known birth date for Kanye, not some fictional one created using vague explanations of 'fate' and other speculative metaphysical blarney. Blarney is for poets. I'm a poet too, but here we're doing astrology. In my world Astrology is science.