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Old 12-09-2009, 07:29 PM
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Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

I'd like to share my experience with you,since I'm 2 years in a relationship,where my boyfriend's Saturn is exactly conjunct my Ascendant,Mars AND Venus.There are some good aspects in this synastry but the most prominent is this one.

Saturn was never a good friend of mine.He's not prominent in my chart,his transits always bring bad things in my life and he never helped me in anything in my life so far.
This relationship ironically started when tr.Saturn was also on my Ascendant.Depression,loneliness and psychological and emotional problems were the focus of my life when this nice guy entered my life and gave me a helping hand.Everything was beautiful in the beginning,I finally had someone supporting me in the hard times,he was handsome and we were having a good time.I was finally at a peaceful,happy state and that was important to me.
He was so supportive that I became dependent on him.I started having weird psychosomatic symptoms when I was with him,all of a sudden not feeling well and wanting to go home.I started loosing touch with some of my friends,since I was spending so much time with him.I started having really bad depressions.Then the health problems became real and I started feeling that I'm about to fall apart.Then I realized that my attraction for him will never get better.

In the end,I just came to realize that my life would be nothing without him.I am nothing without him.All this Saturn effect these 2 years left nothing inside of me that's worthy.I exist because he exists and he needs me.I don't have a life,I have very few friends left,I have no job and I'm getting worse everyday.

He's the only one I ever loved so much,he's the only one that loved me so much,and the only one I can imagine spending the rest of my life with.But the love I have for him is like the one the dauhter has for her father.Since he entered my life,I feel there is a transparent wall around me that blocks other people from coming to me.I tried to leave him once but he started crying and saying crazy things.I don't want to loose him.But his Saturn left me exhausted all these years..
I would appreciate your comments,advice or experiences on this subject.


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Old 12-09-2009, 09:10 PM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

You should know by now we are all visual people here, so where are the charts and synastry bi wheels and composite or davison chart ?? LOL.

My Saturn is loosely conj my partners Saggi Asc 4' in first and I am the older by 10years and am sure he feels safe and can rely on me .....

Saturn tends to act as cement for good OR bad in synastry
Here is one of my post's with lots of info http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum...ad.php?t=13745
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Old 12-09-2009, 10:21 PM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

Well,I just wanted to discuss about this particular aspect in synastry and not on the whole synastry chart of my relationship-this happened in another thread some time ago.
What concerns me more is the Saturn aspect and if anyone else has any experience with this.
I know Saturn conjunct the Ascendant by itself is not so bad,it really makes you feel secure and I'm sure your partner feels this.But when Mars and Venus are also involved the effect may be more serious and harder.
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Old 12-10-2009, 10:57 AM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

"I am nothing without him" <-- I heard that somewhere else, and it was not related to Saturn.
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Old 12-11-2009, 06:37 PM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

My Mercury recently got away from transiting Saturn and now he's chasing my Sun.So yes,I still have many upcoming Saturn transits,and maybe that's why the last thing I need is one more Saturn influence in my life.
I read somewhere that the one being influenced by another person's Saturn(and we're talking about a heavy influence here) must leave the relationship for his good,even if it's the last thing he wants to do.
The problem is,I love him too much to leave him,I know he won't take it easy,cause I tried to leave once already,I'm not afraid he will harm me,I'm more afraid he will harm himself,I see him being so happy now with me and I don't want to ruin this.He's been so nice to me.But sometimes it's unbearable that I get easily bored with him,I notice other guys more than I ever did before.I'm so confused,I don't know what to do..
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Old 12-11-2009, 07:27 PM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

I think it depends on the aspect Saturn makes to our planets,and more than this,on how much everyone can handle.Some may find it hard,others who like stability may find it the perfect relationship.As I said,Saturn was never a good friend of mine,but some people like him.
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Old 12-11-2009, 10:40 PM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/article...nsynastry.html

This article explains Saturn's role in synastry and I can identify with everything it says.enjoy!
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Old 12-12-2009, 07:08 AM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

Look to Saturn's father, Uranus. He'll free you.

Yes, I've had some pretty terrible conjunctions with people's Saturn, cause my Mars is in Libra & there's a slew of Saturn Libra ladies out there I've chased who I felt I needed & they then needed me, but needed me to be a certain way. However, my Mars has gotta be free baby, I gotta be me, no other way. LOL

It always works out for the best.

I really really really understand though how one may think that Saturn can "destroy" what seems to be such a great thing. Well, there's a reason for that & I think cause it's not really meant to be anything more than a lesson. Saturn isn't ruining anything. He's giving enough cement & structure to relationships to feel 'right' but also restricting certain ones so you can move on.

I've found that the women I've had the Mars-conjunct-Saturn & one was from my side, Saturn-quincunx-Mars, are much much happier without me. Let me tell you, experiencing the Saturn-quincunx-Mars was absolutely brutal. I was the Saturn, she was the Mars. I felt like I was dying without her. Then things went back to normal & we're friends (we also have great trines & sextiles, with Saturn oddly.. But the Mars-Saturn was the killer). She was struggling to free herself from my Saturn's grasp LOL, but she eventually did. And we're both happier for it. But there's a transition time & that is tough.

One other experience about Saturn,
I met a "soul mate" a while ago. Her Sun was exactly conjunct my IC.. Wow!! & the ruler of my 7th is... Her Sun. Wow!! It was love at first sight, for both of us.

But guess what? My Saturn also conjuncts my IC & conjuncts her Sun. And of course, wouldn't you know it, her Saturn is conjunct my Mars. She realized before me that it wouldn't work, I was brutalized, then I agreed with her. I'm much happier & thankful to have met such a cool person, to feel that feeling of familiarity with (Sun conjunct IC), you know?

It all works out for the best.

There's a lesson somewhere in your karma with this person & once it's learned, you've gotta move on. Or stay.

But the Universe wants you to be happy, either way.

I'm wishing you the best.
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Old 12-12-2009, 01:35 PM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

Kaminari that was very interesting,thanks for sharing!Wow,you have many Saturn experiences!I don't know what's the lesson I'm supposed to learn from him though,I don't even know if I will know when I learn it,maybe I already did and don't realize it.But I feel very restricted right now,I can't breathe,sometimes even literally,I'll just wait and see how things will turn out and if this relationship will benefit me in any way before totally destroying me.
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Old 12-12-2009, 02:04 PM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

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Kaminari that was very interesting,thanks for sharing!Wow,you have many Saturn experiences!I don't know what's the lesson I'm supposed to learn from him though,I don't even know if I will know when I learn it,maybe I already did and don't realize it.But I feel very restricted right now,I can't breathe,sometimes even literally,I'll just wait and see how things will turn out and if this relationship will benefit me in any way before totally destroying me.
I'm just speaking for me, but I believe our soul makes a "contract" with another soul, people kind of pull us or hold us back from reaching our potential. You heard how angels can sometimes be demons, because they're holding us back, even though it's nice, comfortable, while some difficult people seem like demons & disrupt our world, but they're really angels in disguise, freeing us from ego, from stifling circumstances we didn't know we were caught up in.

Those who pull us, maybe we're uncomfortable with them because we're going into uncharteded waters. I like to compare it to "walking into the jungle at night." It's scary, but you'll get new experiences.

Also, the lessons come later, you need time to internalize everything. I heard someone say, that when a relationship ends, it's like the tide receding back to the sea, revealing gems scattered all over the beach. These gems are parts of ourselves we couldn't find cause they were covered by the water, the emotions of a relationship.

I wish you strength & wisdom on your journey.

Edit: oops, I didn't add any astrology info, so I had a look at your chart. I think you're doing the right thing, trying to gain knowledge & discuss your situation (N. node in Gemini). Really try to read up on the nodal path & understand what this relationship means to you in "the big picture." Your chart is a blue-print of your story, & no one can understand it better than you. And trust your emotions & intuition, Cancer Moon. (from a fellow water Moon, Moon in Scorpio guy with really heightened emotions.) You gotta listen to feeling, it will guide you.
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Old 12-12-2009, 03:03 PM
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

Something else I noticed, is that transit Neptune will be squaring your MC/IC axis. This happened to me recently & cast a cloud of confusion (my axis is opposite yours, almost exact) but as it's moving past I have more clarity of the future. (my natal stellium in Scorpio is also gettin pounded, so I'm really attuned to Neptune's energy). Read up on this transit, but don't worry. There's been a lot of confusion in my life, but usually there must be chaos before order is restored.

And have you looked at your progressed chart? I ask because mine really is linked to this Neptune transit, but it's only my experience.
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Re: Saturn conjunct Ascendant,Mars,Venus synastry aspect:my experience.

Hi. I am new here, and I have a limited knowledge of astrology. I came here this morning after I did a search for "Saturn Conj Asc Synastry" as I have just met someone whose Saturn sits on my ASC.

I would seriously take a look at conjunctions to your SouthNode.

I am in a very complicated relationship with a man whose Sun sits right on top of my South Node. We met when pluto was sitting exactly on the cusp of my 7th house. He mystified me. He's very secretive. And it was VERY comfortable when we met. Like I'd known him forever. He's a depressive type, and I feel very protective of him, but fear for my future happiness. I am empty on the inside. South Node relationships will drain the life force out of you. My hunch is there is something there in your charts. Saturn is heavy, but there are good lessons to learn regardless. With the SN, you've already been there, done that and you CAN'T grow in these relationships. You actually backslide. I hope that helps. When I read your post I just couldn't help think there are SN aspects there. Best of luck to you.
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