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Old 01-14-2012, 04:31 AM
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I'm sorry if the question is too vague. I just learned what horary astrology is today, so I'm not sure how specific things need to be. Also, I've wondered the question "will I ever become close friends with someone?" since about two years ago, so instead I chose the date I started thinking of having this question interpreted. I'm in my freshman year of high school right now, so I'm wondering this is going to be the school that I am going to develop a real friendship at. Thank you for anyone who interprets!


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Old 01-14-2012, 06:36 PM
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OK, there is something wrong with the question. I know it might sound odd but, Saturn is in the Ascendant and the Moon is void-of-course. In other words, the Moon cannot make any more Ptolemaic aspects while in the sign she is in.

It could be the question is not a burning question...just a trivial curiosity or, it could mean you aren't sure what you are really asking or are not clear about it. Or, it could be the question is not specific enough or all of the above. I don't know, not my place to say but, the chart is indicating this is not the time for this question nor the answer.

Horary works best with somewhat verifiable questions that, under normal circumstances, cannot be addressed with our usual resources or senses. It is not so much about fate and fortune-telling as it is a tool for greater perspective and discernment.
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Re: Will I Become Close Friends With Someone In The Next Three Years?

There's a few problems with the chart (it's not all bad though!).

First is that Saturn is in the 1st house, which could hinder your judgment as an astrologer.

Also, the Moon was void of course when you asked the question. That means that the Moon is leaving the sign and making it's final aspect to a planet/unable to make any aspects to any planet. This usually makes the chart unreadable.

However, your 7th house ruler of others is in the 11th house of friendship which I find to be a good sign. Mars is also conjunct your void of course of moon. The Moon is your co-ruler so when conjuncting with Mars, I believe is a good sign. It shows that developing friendships is possible.

Also, notice that most of your planets are on the bottom of your chart. The bottom of the birth chart revolves around privacy and your personal, inner life. The top of the chart shows public life. I think the chart is trying to say that you have to make an effort to be seen by others in order to develop friendships with them.

Also, your ruler Venus is in the 4th house of home/privacy. Perhaps try to go to different places and you might meet new people?

Also, three planets are in your 3rd house of communication, and local places. Definitely visit new places around town if you want to meet new people. Mercury and Pluto are in conjunction, Pluto transforms whatever it touches, perhaps you will transform how you think and communicate towards others?

Hope this helped, if you need anything cleared up just let me know
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It could be the question is not a burning question...just a trivial curiosity or, it could mean you aren't sure what you are really asking or are not clear about it. Or, it could be the question is not specific enough or all of the above. I don't know, not my place to say but, the chart is indicating this is not the time for this question nor the answer.
Well, as I've said before, I've been wondering this question for years now, so it's not simple curiousity. To be more specific about the question, I'd say that I am wondering what exactly is keeping me from developing friendships that I feel complete in. All of my friendships have been unsatisfying, boring, and with people I can tell do not care for me. The only friendship that I have felt somewhat pleased in was with a girl who was not only very manipulative and selfish, but also a patheological liar (needless to say, it ended soon). Maybe the question isn't clear because I don't really know what a real friendship is like, or who I want to be friends with, because I've never been really interested in anybody.
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First is that Saturn is in the 1st house, which could hinder your judgment as an astrologer.
How is that relevent to my question? And what do you mean by "hinder my judgment as an astrologer"? Do you mean that I won't be able to study it correctly? That I'll always be bad at it?


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However, your 7th house ruler of others is in the 11th house of friendship which I find to be a good sign. Mars is also conjunct your void of course of moon. The Moon is your co-ruler so when conjuncting with Mars, I believe is a good sign. It shows that developing friendships is possible.
I tend to make friends quickly, but we both lose interest in the friendship fast because we aren't compatible.

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Also, notice that most of your planets are on the bottom of your chart. The bottom of the birth chart revolves around privacy and your personal, inner life. The top of the chart shows public life. I think the chart is trying to say that you have to make an effort to be seen by others in order to develop friendships with them.
How could I go about doing that? I am very shy with new people, and I have a habit of giving away too much information about myself early in relationships, so I feel really insecure after I've confessed something to anybody, no matter how close we are. Also, I'm not attractive or a good dresser, so I blend into the walls often. How can I stand out?

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Also, your ruler Venus is in the 4th house of home/privacy. Perhaps try to go to different places and you might meet new people?
I love meeting new people in group organizations, but I don't have a car, so I only get to do those kinds of things when someone else is willing to be my ride. Which happens rarely.

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Also, three planets are in your 3rd house of communication, and local places. Definitely visit new places around town if you want to meet new people. Mercury and Pluto are in conjunction, Pluto transforms whatever it touches, perhaps you will transform how you think and communicate towards others?
I'm not sure what you mean by that, sorry. Do you mean that I'll be attracted to different types of people, or that my opinions on things will change, or maybe I'll become a different person on the outside when talking to people.
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Well, as I've said before, I've been wondering this question for years now, so it's not simple curiousity. To be more specific about the question, I'd say that I am wondering what exactly is keeping me from developing friendships that I feel complete in. All of my friendships have been unsatisfying, boring, and with people I can tell do not care for me. The only friendship that I have felt somewhat pleased in was with a girl who was not only very manipulative and selfish, but also a patheological liar (needless to say, it ended soon). Maybe the question isn't clear because I don't really know what a real friendship is like, or who I want to be friends with, because I've never been really interested in anybody.

Pizzagirl gave some pretty good insight to the chart, I thought.

Now that you defined the question, I took the time I read it and made a horary for you. Here it is:


The Ascendant is late but, I think that shows a certain phase you are in coming to an end or passing.

You are signified by Mercury. Mercury is in the 7th house of other people so, you are putting yourself out there and searching. Mercury is about to trine Mars, ruler of the 11th of friends. This is excellent. So, you do have fulfilling friendships coming up and, as there is a mutual reception between Mercury and Mars, you will ikely both be on the same plane (of thought).

Also, this could happen in about 12 days or 12 weeks.

The only thing that keeps you from fulfilling friendships is...well, you. But, not in a bad way. Saturn trine your Ascendant shows a person of a serious or more mature mindset. It may be that others find your tastes quite different or extraordinary compared to your other peers. Also, being ruled by Mercury, you do get bored easily with trivia things or routine but, like stability and depth nonetheless.

The Moon about to square Mercury indicates some inhibition but, Saturn is generally a cautious kind anyway.

Just be yourself. That is the best policy. Looking at the chart, you probably like your time alone anyway but, a friend is always nice and soon, according to this horary, you may find the right one.

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Wow, that really matched me. I don't want to come off as vain, but I think that I am much more mature than most people my age. I connect to adults way more than I do with my peers, simply because I don't think about the things they think about. I've tried to get my friends to think beyond what they normally think, but they show no desire. I think that may be the reason why I often end up as more of a therapist and life coach to people than actual companions. Especially with my Libra friend, who only talks to me when she is having problems...

I hope you're right about me finding somebody soon, though...I've been lonely since the sixth grade, and I've been trying my best to talk to new people and chase after friendships of all kinds, but none seem quite worth the effort. I wish that somebody would chase after me, but that seems unlikely. I've been stuck in the mind set that if Fate wants me to be happy, and if somebody wants to be my friend, they will take initiative, but this thinking has gotten me nowhere. So I'm back to chasing people down and hoping it works out.
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Oh, and thank you to both of you for helping me out. I was scared nobody would take interest and my thread would go to waste.. But no!
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