Mixed transits involving Sun/saturn/MC

scarlett · #1 07-25-2011, 01:44 PM

OK, I am trying to experience with my own life the following transit taking place by mid-september:

Transiting saturn conjuncting my natal MC (at 26ºlibra) and also conjuncting my progressed sun at 26º libra. I am a virgo with Capricorn rising (saturn being the ruler of my chart). Currently I am working in the higher education sector with a short-term contract ending in December'2011. And I am putting ALL my efforts to get a 'normal' stable contract within the university... Don't know what to think which such astral combinations:
-delays (saturn) but final good result (sun conjunct midheaven)?
-Unemployment from december'11 onwards?
-change of contract but also change of remuneration (quite possible taking into account the university procedure)?

buffff!

astrologer50 · #2 07-25-2011, 01:49 PM

am sure you would get responses if you posted your chart with transits (and poss progressions) from astro.com

astro.com has a free 'personal portrait' interpretation of a natal chart in the free horoscope section, you simply put the cursor on a planet and it brings a pop up box to explain what it means to have a planet in that house and any other aspects it has to natal planets. plus a six month free transit report in 'short report' Robert Hand gives a valuable in depth explanation of transits here – only slight objection I have with astro, is they use orbs of upto maybe 10' approaching, exact and departing. So most transits seem very long in effect. I use more realistic orbs of 1' approaching, 1' exact and 1' departing.
http://www.khaldea.com/ephemcenter.shtml

the free 6months transits forecaster will give you a broader picture.

JUPITERASC · #3 07-25-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scarlett

OK, I am trying to experience with my own life the following transit taking place by mid-september:

Transiting saturn conjuncting my natal MC (at 26ºlibra) and also conjuncting my progressed sun at 26º libra. I am a virgo with Capricorn rising (saturn being the ruler of my chart). Currently I am working in the higher education sector with a short-term contract ending in December'2011. And I am putting ALL my efforts to get a 'normal' stable contract within the university... Don't know what to think which such astral combinations:
-delays (saturn) but final good result (sun conjunct midheaven)?
-Unemployment from december'11 onwards?
-change of contract but also change of remuneration (quite possible taking into account the university procedure)?

buffff!

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/libra.html some information re: Libra

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/horoscopes.html

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h10.html some information re: 10th house - you'll discover other useful information on this site as well

scarlett · #4 07-25-2011, 02:00 PM

Thanks!
Ok, I attach here the chart. I have calculated that Saturn will be on the 26º of Libra by beginning dece3mber (just at the moment of re-negotiating contract!)... Everything seems to be 'on time'...

astrologer50 · #5 07-25-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scarlett

OK, I am trying to experience with my own life the following transit taking place by mid-september:

Transiting saturn conjuncting my natal MC (at 26ºlibra) and also conjuncting my progressed sun at 26º libra. I am a virgo with Capricorn rising (saturn being the ruler of my chart). Currently I am working in the higher education sector with a short-term contract ending in December'2011. And I am putting ALL my efforts to get a 'normal' stable contract within the university... Don't know what to think which such astral combinations:
-delays (saturn) but final good result (sun conjunct midheaven)?
-Unemployment from december'11 onwards?
-change of contract but also change of remuneration (quite possible taking into account the university procedure)?

buffff!

I notice t Saturn is currently conj pluto

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The main theme tends to be facing responsibility in the face of corruption. This is a time when you have to concentrate your interests more deeply and narrowly, most often because you are going through a financial burden or some other kind of shortage. This is also a time to get rid of any rules and regulations that do not adequately meet the demands that you are experiencing. Many of the habits that you have grown used to, simply do not apply anymore. You may have to live with austere circumstances for a while. The authorities may not be dependable, or may be corrupt
http://www.astrology-x-files.com/tra...-cj-pluto.html

your pluto is practically unaspected with just a sextile (generational) aspect to neptune in 12th (not much use there)
Pluto in Equal house is placed in 10th house (angular) rather than 9th (cadent) This will be a time when hard work, structure (saturn) requires transformation and rebirth of career and what you want to become known for in society. pluto rules 11th house of hopes and wishes, large organisations and friendships

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Ruler of the Eleventh House in the Tenth House
Friends, groups of people, or organizations with a common cause could be directly related to your career somehow.
You can create large scale social changes through participating in governmental affairs. You may have friends and acquaintances who are in positions of authority. Sudden and unexpected circumstances can affect your career or your public reputation, or this astrological influence could mean that you have a very unusual approach to your career.

http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology...ships.htm#hr11

t jupiter will soon opp natal venus in 11th house and this should be good for socialising, romance and friendships

prog mercury is now 1' off separating from venus in 11th house. This is about communications being in line with venus and being able to articulate those hidden scorpio matters.

You are prob still feeling the effects of T Pluto conj Asc and all the threads/responses I have read affect every area and are not felt as pleasant and definately 'life changing' matters..

Transiting sun effects are negliable as it's too quickly moving. research from mars onwards and pay attention with the outers ie: saturn, uranus,neptune and pluto

T Saturn hit my MC when my first husband after divorce decided to disappear and avoid paying maintenance. This put me on the benefit system for 12months until I tracked him down. I ended in Court 4x to get an attachment on his earnings..... not a nice time

When T Pluto hit my MC my father died, same time T Pluto conj my mothers sun..

When T Uranus hit my MC my first marriage started breaking down, same time T Pluto opp Moon. On the Retrograde hit of Uranus I filed for divorce, first hit spoke to solicitor, but reconciled til next hit...

When T Neptune conj my MC age 16 left home, broke (dissolved) relationship with parents Principle is same your social standing career (if working) take nose dive, major alterations are afoot.

Saturn is the Lord of Karma and master teacher, but really he's trying to teach us about ourselves. It wants us to be responsible, hard working, dutiful and learn our Lessons properly, so they won't have to keep being repeated. Therefore, is usually suggests things slowing down, delays, limitations and restrictions so we can learn these Lessons.

What Saturn does is 'test' what is of value to you and what is working in your life. It wants structure and hard work. If something isn't working--- it may well end--- so something better can be put in it's place.

Now Neptune dissolves things, causes confusion, illusions and rose tinted glasses especially if in hard aspect to Angles or planets. It can be a spiritual, artistic awakening, but there are not many people who can advance or benefit their lives (unless there is natal potential of course) with Neptune. But having said this if you are 'supposed' to be Learning a Lesson in this life and Neptune draws a veil across your mind so you don't see things clearly enough to be objective--- then this pawn in chess has done it's job....

JUPITERASC · #6 07-25-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by scarlett

Thanks!
Ok, I attach here the chart. I have calculated that Saturn will be on the 26º of Libra by beginning dece3mber (just at the moment of re-negotiating contract!)... Everything seems to be 'on time'...

It could be helpful for you to experiment with requesting an answer to your question using horary astrology. Here's a link to the Career Related Horary Questions area with guidelines for starting new threads at the top

scarlett · #7 07-26-2011, 10:59 AM

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Pluto in Equal house is placed in 10th house (angular) rather than 9th (cadent) This will be a time when hard work, structure (saturn) requires transformation and rebirth of career and what you want to become known for in society. pluto rules 11th house of hopes and wishes, large organisations and friendships

Well I think Pluto is in my 9th house, not in the 10th. I think it cannot be applied to 10h patterns.
The problem for me is:
traniting saturn conjunct pluto (economy limitations and also slow, so sloooow administrative procedures: job interviews, stagnation, etc). But at the same time transiting pluto is about to trine my natal saturn (another mix aspect). Some bad aspects mixed with good aspects (contradictions...)...

astrologer50 · #8 07-26-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scarlett

Well I think Pluto is in my 9th house, not in the 10th. I think it cannot be applied to 10h patterns.
The problem for me is:
traniting saturn conjunct pluto (economy limitations and also slow, so sloooow administrative procedures: job interviews, stagnation, etc). But at the same time transiting pluto is about to trine my natal saturn (another mix aspect). Some bad aspects mixed with good aspects (contradictions...)...

maybe this will help

Pluto in 9th House - cadent
· World travellers. Quite possibly some unusual events connected to foreigners and foreign countries
· If not physically, then mentally ‑ higher learning. Will not tolerate hypocrisy.
· Compulsive desire to study and to accept mental challenge
· Desire to investigate foreign cultures.
· Religion at an in depth level.
· Indicates special interest in the Law and legalities ‑ higher education, moral philosophy
· Possibly even work at airport or dealing with foreign travel or foreign people.

Pluto in 10th House - angular
· Will need to be very much emotionally involved in the career
· A power complex is all too often indicated Ultimate perfectionist.
· High standards. Expect high standards from others.
· May feel isolated by your responsibilities
· Obsession with public image ‑ status.
· Public image and social standing important.
· Adept in dealing with those in power. Politics possible

scarlett · #9 07-26-2011, 01:46 PM

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Pluto in 9th House - cadent
· World travellers. Quite possibly some unusual events connected to foreigners and foreign countries
· If not physically, then mentally ‑ higher learning. Will not tolerate hypocrisy.
· Compulsive desire to study and to accept mental challenge
· Desire to investigate foreign cultures.
· Religion at an in depth level.
· Indicates special interest in the Law and legalities ‑ higher education, moral philosophy
· Possibly even work at airport or dealing with foreign travel or foreign people.

Definetely, it applies to the 9th house.

To go back to the issue which worries me, I think that pluto can only help me this time. Saturn crossing my MC is not very promissing,. although in some books I have read it actually can mean a 'promotion' or something like that.
But everything is sooooo terribly slow with Saturn...

astrologer50 · #10 07-26-2011, 02:53 PM

when I had T Saturn conj pluto (well aspected) in 7th was the transformation into my first marriage. It wasn't particularly romantic, we had little money, so it was a cheap registry office affair.

Your pluto is well aspected and hopefully will help. Although T Saturn conj MC is a bummer, plus your mars is conj MC, setting off stop/go situations, delays frustrations and there probably won't be much you can do about it.

scarlett · #11 08-01-2011, 10:46 AM

Ok, in December with transiting Saturn crossing my MC and conjuncting my Mars I easily can see myself queing in the unemployment office...
The bad thing of it is that I can hardly do anything to prevent it...
...

astrologer50 · #12 08-01-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scarlett

Ok, in December with transiting Saturn crossing my MC and conjuncting my Mars I easily can see myself queing in the unemployment office...
The bad thing of it is that I can hardly do anything to prevent it...
...

there *can* be a positive side to this transit ie: it can be that you have to take on more responsibility and burdens, maybe for same pay..

scarlett · #13 08-03-2011, 08:44 AM

I'll let you know... I won't have to wait too long. In december I'll feel the effects... Tr. Saturn conjunct my mars scares me more than transiting saturn conjunct my MC... Definetely...

scarlett · #14 01-03-2012, 07:48 PM

Hi there!

Just a brief update on the current transit I experience (it can be helpful for people who are facing the same transit): transiting saturn conjunct my MC+Mars (also progressed sun is there). My problems are in the work front:

On the 1st nov, I signed the termination of my 5-year-term contract (at the university where I work). With this, I put an end to a whole cycle dealing with my professional domain at university (I used to manage a project on languages). But the project has not more funding from the government now (crisis).

From December'11, I accepted to replace somebody (maternal leave) for 3 months. The work is not related to my field at all. I will earn less (for three months), and after March'12 I'll see.
I am currently trying to find another job (before the end of March!) related to my field, though it will be quite hard. For this reason I am starting to broaden my job search...

-Other things related my current non-permanent position: Job environment is not nice, I feel people do not want to help me (I am new there!) especially women, unkindness, even rudeness is in the air... etc. Also the work load is important. Sometimes I do not go for lunch...

Well, that's it for now. At the beginning I was afraid of the whole change. Loss of professional direction, etc... And I noticed that every week I had some minor health problems (infections, etc, due to the pressure). Now I just want to be in March 2012 to see what happens next...

will keep updating