Jupiter in the 12th didnt save Aaliyah and Martin Luther King

[haileyscomet]

First and foremost, I'm aware people with this placement are not immuned to death. But this placement should have protected them from harm. What can you see in their chart that overruled this placement? Perhaps a weak Jupiter? Or something more significant?


Please note, I got the birth details from Astrotheme.com. I'm not sure if that's a reliable source. I checked with Astrobank and their time is unknown for Aaliyah but for Mlk the time is 12:00 noon.

King (almost) had Saturn in the 8th which should signify a long life.

[Melaike]

Originally Posted by haileyscomet

First and foremost, I'm aware people with this placement are not immuned to death. But this placement should have protected them from harm. What can you see in their chart that overruled this placement? Perhaps a weak Jupiter? Or something more significant?

Really ? I have this placement in my chart and I didn't see any advantage of it untill today.

Originally Posted by haileyscomet

King (almost) had Saturn in the 8th which should signify a long life.

Does it mean long life ? İt means death after a chronic illness in my opinion

[Seasoul]

I would think that jupiter in the 1st would be more of a protective influence - protection of the self?

[Caro]

MLK - wow what an incredible chart. mars in gemini he was a great orator. but moon square saturn.(maybe that helped his pisces moon and he took his philosophies very seriously)

Jupiter conj chiron in 12th(taurus) (jupiter sq sun) also look at venus.

A.......

Jupiter(leo) square chiron(taurus). (jupiter opp sun) (sun sq pluto)

[m0ney*p0wer*re$pect]

Those birth times aren't reliable. Usually when it says noon on there for astrotheme it means time unknown

[wilsontc]

comet,

You said:

Originally Posted by haileyscomet

First and foremost, I'm aware people with this placement are not immuned to death. But this placement should have protected them from harm...King (almost) had Saturn in the 8th which should signify a long life.

King's birth time is listed as "A" by Astro-databank so it's very accurate. As to "protection" King again and again put himself into harm's way and did so non-violently. He could have been killed MANY times. There were death threats against him before his assassination and many warned him not to go out. He put himself into danger again and again and finally he was killed. It's amazing he lived as long as he did with all the anger and hate some people directed at his actions.

Protected,

Tim