Fire Kite

[Mutable]

For the Kite configuration, the planet in the Grand Trine that is being opposed becomes the focal point. Think of the Trine as being a type of cross bow with the sextile aspect being the bowstring. The arrow would be the opposition reaching across the chart, from the sextiles to the tip of the Trines. The quiver end of the arrow sets the stage, while the blade of the arrow guides the individual in the direction for action.

Does this mean the tip/blade of the arrow is Sag, the quiver end Gem, and each end of the string Aries and Leo?

Check out the house and sign where the two trines and the opposition meet up to develop a better understanding of that focal point.

What's the meaning of the house and sign where my two trines and the opposition meet up?

While the individual with a Grand Trine might generally have an easier time in life, the individual may lack a sense of purpose, awareness or perspective until they are made aware of the Grand Trines potentials. On the other hand, The individual with the Kite is likely to sense that there is something more, but may not be aware of how to tap into their talents. Consistently finding the motivation for the best expression of that Kite configuration may be the more difficult task for the individual.

Any tips on consistently finding the motivation?

[Mutable]

bump .

[Caro]

I have read that the grand trines do offer opportunities but these are not often realised. as you have the kite you have a bit more tension in the configuration.jupiter opp moon.

The best grand trine is in earth, followed by fire then water and I think air is last. (air seems to blow away in the wind)

I also have a kite(water trine) saturn in pisces is at the bottom of the configuration in house 5 - it is the house placing that I have the issues with not saturn itself. to some extent I have found it difficult to get to the good bits of house 5. Although I love theatre I am a real theatre critic. it is the placing at the top the pluto conj uranus in virgo that has until a few years back won out. its in the 10th house. (Im always working)

for you - 9th house jupiter - nice - always studying travelling meeting new people - writing about them?

with all that fiery energy you need to find an expression for it creatively! and physically - long distance running around the world that kind of thing, you have a lot of fire and sun in leo too! wow! Do you run to work? I would love to have a fire in my chart but possibly not as much as this.

so your moon in house 3 - is effectively the 'weakest link' and the forgotten house. so you might want to see how you can bring out the balance in the opposition.

let me know your thoughts.....

[Mutable]

Originally Posted by Caro

with all that fiery energy you need to find an expression for it creatively! and physically - long distance running around the world that kind of thing, you have a lot of fire and sun in leo too! wow! Do you run to work? I would love to have a fire in my chart but possibly not as much as this.

I certainly like to run to work, haha. And I've often been told that I walk, run or move really quickly. I get really impatient when I am trailing behind slow-moving people in crowded places like mall.

Originally Posted by Caro

so your moon in house 3 - is effectively the 'weakest link' and the forgotten house. so you might want to see how you can bring out the balance in the opposition.

I googled moon in house 3 and came across the following:

The third house represents understanding through information, and what we know as a result of interactions within our community. "Community" here means neighbors, siblings, short journeys, letters, news and rumors. This house rules our rational thought and conscious mind, memory, speech, early education and environment, writing and communication, dexterity and taken-for-granted skills, explorations, investigations, inquiry, and research of all kinds. Planets in the third house describe the quality and quantity of our mental and nervous energy.

Since my 'weakest link' is moon in house 3, does this mean my weakness lies in understanding through information, rational thinking, memory, speech, research, and all others stated above?
How can I overcome this weakness and achieve balance in the opposition?

[Caro]

another thought we could power a city's electricity from your energy link.you just keep on going on a treadmill.

im pretty impatient too behind slow walking people but no fire at all for me! wish I had a bit of sagi energy!

with the opposition this is the dilemma. trying to meet in the middle.
you may focus more on the benefits of the other three planets at the top and effectively ignore your moon- feelings emotions. so someone you have to may workout how not to do this.http://horoscopeswithin.com/mooninhouses.php

I would read a couple of sites and the aspects to the moon to try and understand what may be going on.

why dont you become an athlete or work in sports?

[Mutable]

Originally Posted by Caro

why dont you become an athlete or work in sports?

That's one of the possible things I could do, but for now I need to focus on finishing school. But then, I feel like it's quite late to make it big in sports because I'm already 23 and I haven't been doing practice on any sports for years. It seems that many top athletes seem to have started in their field when they were very young, like 6 years old.

Also, I may have lots of fire, but I feel that much of my firy nature is smothered by my Virgo rising, which effectively conceals or represses this firy side of me (this has been a frustrating phenomenon for me, though now I am quite used to being misunderstood by many people I meet for the first time). Many acquaintances and people who don't know me well seem to think I'm a quiet, gentle bookworm with no enthusiasm and fire energy. I'd be happier if my rising sign were something that was consistent with my overall signs, like a fire or air sign, but then I can't change my rising sign, can I?

[Caro]

then they get to know you and .................... in for a shock.

research out charts of successful sports people.

maybe you should focus on working towards your first saturn return at 28,
its a perfect time to decide what you want to do over the next few years.

[Mutable]

Originally Posted by Caro

then they get to know you and .................... in for a shock.

Haha, very true. Many people in the past told me that once they got to know me, they realized I was a completely different person than they thought I was. But I sometimes wonder how great it'd be if I would not have to go through this cycle, how easier my life would be if I look the same inside and out, because I am really tired of attracting the wrong people, like people dominant in Earth, and it's difficult to get close to fire/air-dominant people, the kinds of people I actually want to associate with. It's also very frustrating when I get attracted to some people, only to find out that only their rising sign is in fire/air and most other planets in earth/water.

Originally Posted by Caro

maybe you should focus on working towards your first saturn return at 28,
its a perfect time to decide what you want to do over the next few years.

What is a saturn return? Gosh, I feel like there are thousands of things I don't know about astrology.

[Caro]

that cos you are suppressing all that fire. you do have squares to some of the fire signs which maybe holding you back.

so if you start to do some extreme physical activities - you will then naturally attract those fiery types.

im scorpio rising then I have an aqua sun. people say the same. it was great when I started to meet a lot of aqua's about 10 years ago. it was refreshing!

where is saturn natally for you? which sign /house etc. well it take 28 -30 years to work its way around yoru chart to its position at the time of your birth. this event is quite significant for a number of people, ie they reach maturity. stuff can fall into place at this time(or sadly sometimes fall apart)

I dont have your chart in front of me but you are about 20?

its never to late to start anything.

[astrologer50]

I wouldn't interpret them as grand trines as it's a *kite* configuration.

Kite
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/aspectpatterns.html
“Whenever a person has a kite in his chart, he is considered to be more likely to be successful in his endeavours because the opposition will give him the push to go out and conquer the obstacles that are presented to him, and the sextiles will give him a little bit more harmony once he has achieved his goals.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_aspect
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/aspect-patterns2.html
http://www.evolvingdoor.ca/glossary/glossary_k.htm


you should also research your unaspected mercury, which is Asc and Mc ruler

your thread header says *kite* but all the information you give in your first post are ALL about fire grand trines..... research the KITE configuration.

Unaspected Mercury, lacking in this educational opportunity, could represent one whose mental development is seldom well-rounded. Although the mind often is quite powerful and capable, it can become one-tracked in its application. And while the individual may be able to intelligently gather information in areas that attract his interest (indicated by Mercury's natal placement), he may not comprehend as much about himself. might be less driven to direct his mental power towards the observation and analysis of the other components of his personality
http://astronuts.tribe.net/thread/dd...8-7aeb8e91e741

Mercury unaspected: these people may find it difficult to express their thoughts, may be quiet, but strive actively to develop intellectual skills.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html

[Mutable]

Originally Posted by Caro

that cos you are suppressing all that fire. you do have squares to some of the fire signs which maybe holding you back.

so if you start to do some extreme physical activities - you will then naturally attract those fiery types.

Extreme physical activities? Hmm.. I'm trying to think what specific sports I might be best suited for.

Originally Posted by Caro

im scorpio rising then I have an aqua sun. people say the same. it was great when I started to meet a lot of aqua's about 10 years ago. it was refreshing!

I think that's common for people like us who have incompatible rising and sun signs.

Originally Posted by Caro

where is saturn natally for you? which sign /house etc. well it

Can it be determined based on the chart I originally uploaded above? Just in case, I've attached another file below, taken from the astrotheme report I ordered previously.

Originally Posted by Caro

take 28 -30 years to work its way around yoru chart to its position at the time of your birth. this event is quite significant for a number of people, ie they reach maturity. stuff can fall into place at this time(or sadly sometimes fall apart)

I dont have your chart in front of me but you are about 20?

its never to late to start anything.

Very interesting. I'm 23 right now. Given my chart, when would I have my saturn return? Is it a once-in-a-lifetime event?

Originally Posted by astrologer50

I wouldn't interpret them as grand trines as it's a *kite* configuration.

Thank you for pointing that out. Some sources said kite is just a special type of grand trine, but I guess there are different ways of categorizing them.

[astrologer50]

5 out of 10 in fire signs means lots of energy, drive and iniative, but no eath suggests you are not practical about matters

When Saturn and Uranus fall in the same sign or house we get caught in a cleft stick, wanting to make changes but fearing to let go of the old.

Saturn, uranus in 4th house
Saturn in the 4th house
· Saturn here operates in the latter part of life when its negative aspects are much harder to take. In the roots of the being a selfishness that must be broken up or the dues will be collected in the latter part of life.
· Can gain through real estate and land.
· Possibility of trouble with indigestion due to emotions. The ulcer type.
· Often strong mother complex and a tendency to cling to the past.
· Needs to get away from home in order to get over psychological bias. Appears independent but fears to leave home. Will be happier away from the place of birth.
· Domestic responsibilities or difficulties are likely.
· In childhood these may be the result of others` actions, but adults invariably attract these commitments.
· There is a need for domestic security ‑ often provided by physical ties. Will take great pains to make a secure home
· They would probably have to take on heavy ­responsibilities from an early age and may have had to struggle for domestic security and will work very hard to provide for your home and family. May have experienced poverty as a child

Uranus in 4th House – Angular house
· They could have experienced an unusual home life or upbringing, or live in an unusual house.
· Close friends may be accepted as part of the family.
· Sudden changes of residence and many changes in family life.
· Your parents will not have a binding effect.
· Not a domestic type and may not want a fixed and settled home life unless Uranus in a fixed sign.
· Unsettled conditions around mother may effect this individual emotionally. Restlessness in the roots of being can cause unstable conditions in life.
· Could collect unusual things, like porcelain pigs

your fire planets/grand trine are 3rd house communications 7th house one to one relationships and 11th house sun. These are the areas where these planets function. research house means.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm#house3

Originally Posted by Caro
im scorpio rising then I have an aqua sun. people say the same. it was great when I started to meet a lot of aqua's about 10 years ago. it was refreshing!

I think that's common for people like us who have incompatible rising and sun signs.

squares are NOT that imcompatible, try researching quincunxs and these have absultely nothing in common....
I have aquarius Asc and stellium in taurus and they work just fine for me
Just embrace all of you, not just bits of you....

the file you uploaded is next to useless, if you want to dig a little deeper post your decalinations in parallels from astro.

Very interesting. I'm 23 right now. Given my chart, when would I have my saturn return? Is it a once-in-a-lifetime event?

actually you will have at least two saturn returns, 28years apart.So your first saturn return will be 28-30ish and second 56ish

[Caro]

C'mon. you need to do some homework!.

1. saturn - learn about it - read up on some websites etc! its on your chart!

then come back and report.

[Mutable]

Originally Posted by Caro

C'mon. you need to do some homework!.

1. saturn - learn about it - read up on some websites etc! its on your chart!

then come back and report.

I just read up on what saturn return is about..... It sounds like a rough time for most people. I wouldn't want to read much of it right now because I don't feel like it or I have other thing to do (or could that be due to my grand trine laziness?).

Originally Posted by astrologer50

5 out of 10 in fire signs means lots of energy, drive and iniative, but no eath suggests you are not practical about matters

I would like lots of earth because I tend to lack common sense and the ability to turn my ideas into action! Is it possible to make up for my shortage of earth by doing something like this?: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serp...Preparing.html

[Caro]

unfortunately much stuff on the internet is quite negative.
saturn return can be difficult but not always.

for many around this time. taking on of responsibilities. promotion at work. marriage, new home, buying a house. depends on natal saturn etc. so not all bad.

but with all these things although positive comes some burden.

saturn both gives and takes away. it is the teacher.

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by Mutable

I just read up on what saturn return is about..... It sounds like a rough time for most people. I wouldn't want to read much of it right now because I don't feel like it or I have other thing to do (or could that be due to my grand trine laziness?).[ you won't get far in this life with this attitude....]

Saturn Return
Saturn takes 30 years or so to complete its circuit around the zodiac so events that occur around the age of 29-30, 58-59 and 84-87 will be of great significance to the native, depending on the strength and aspects to natal saturn.
http://www.newage-directory.com/saturn.html
http://www.astrologycom.com/saturn.html
http://www.saturnreturn.net/what_is.html
http://www.examiner.com/x-2766-Atlan...-Saturn-return
http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/dysfunctional-saturn
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/saturn.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/saturn_att.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_return
http://www.newage-directory.com/saturn.html
http://astrology.about.com/od/advanc...turnReturn.htm
http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrol...turn_retu.html


I would like lots of earth because I tend to lack common sense and the ability to turn my ideas into action! Is it possible to make up for my shortage of earth by doing something like this?: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serp...Preparing.html

Lack of elements
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18077
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/elements.html
http://www.astrology.aryabhatt.com/Astrology_Elements.asp
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.astrologyclub.org/article.../inferior2.htm
http://www.nanceestar.com/elements.html
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=319747&posted=1#post319747