Any indicators of sadness?

[queeny]

Yeah look maturing takes time and appreciating who you are as a unique individual also takes time and is just a part of life. Not everyone comes into life roaring with confidence and exuberance. Some of the most ingenius and talented people have come into this world much like you - sensitive shy and unsure. It takes time and for Pisceans life can often feel like a fish out of water and practical matters can seem a bit of a challenge. But like anything, things were not naturally good at get better with practice.

Its natural at a young age to be a bit of a chameleon and explore different ways of being, its also natural for the developing ego to envy others and not feel completely comfortable with oneself. Try not to worry too much if you can. Shyness is a beautiful trait and can be very alluring and mysterious in itself, its wonderful that we're not all the same or life would be so boring.

I didnt mean leadership was a lonely path - sorry if i didnt explain it properly. Of course that isn't the case. I just mean it takes courage and learning to stand on your own two feet in order to be a leader. And you'll do just fine, just let yourself ripen naturally, nothing that happens ovenight lasts anyway. try and find those things in yourself that are strengths, you will know they're there if you dont already. enjoy your artistic talents and try and see the beauty of your sensitive side. Once again, its so nice that we all have different natures.

For example I have developed a strong connection to animals, which is why i mentioned it. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to feel this. besides we change so much over time. When I was your age I was a mess. I couldnt' figure out who i was, I felt emprisoned by my family's expectations of me and felt like a complete failure when I couldnt live up to their expectations. I felt a lot of depression and futility about life and i shared those feelings with only one or two people in my life that could understand. But things dont stay that way for ever. you learn and you grow through pain and loneliness and with awareness you can - over time, learn to love yourself just as you are. There are many encouraging books out there too that can help you feel not so alone. And in doing so your true talents and gifts start to shine just as creation intended. More importantly you start to see how life helps you along the way once you start following your dreams. I am now 34 and am finally in my element and not so overwhelmed when difficult feelings arise (and they always will from time to time, thats life!). HOpe some of this helps. love queeny

[queeny]

Just to clarify, when i said 'Piscean ' i meant there is that in you, since Pisces is ruled by Neptune which is close to many of your planets in your rising and this can add a powerful sensitivity to you

[astrologer50]

I feel it's more T Neptune conjunct natal saturn here as it's classical depression aspect....

This can be very difficult transit. Saturn represents the reality but Neptune represents a different reality. This is a time when your beliefs may be questioned and found inadequate. As you become increasingly disoriented, you will probably question what is real and what is not. Often this transit coincides with a great disappointment leading to disillusionment, self doubt and lack of self confidence. Fear is also a common problem at this time, especially irrational fear with no obvious basis. it feels like structures upon which you have built your life, and have come to depend on, are no longer dependable.

http://www.astrology-x-files.com/tra...cj-saturn.html

Neptune Transits Through Your Second House:

Watch your money. The big problem is not other people. It’s you. When Neptune hits you, you don’t want to deal with reality in that area of your life. At this time, there will be a tendency to let finances drift or get involved in nebulous schemes to increase wealth. Here is something that other books won’t tell you. Neptune can have the same effect when making a stress aspect to the cusp (beginning) of the 2nd House.

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/tr...eptune18.2.htm

This means that confusion can hit your finances when Neptune is 90 degrees away in another corner of the chart, or when it is entering your 8th House (180 degrees away). The thing to do is to make certain that your money is somewhere safe and secure way before this transit starts. Schedule some time, on a regular basis, to check your finances. And make sure to stick to that schedule. This is important because, when Neptune hits, you won’t want

to. http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/tr...eptune18.2.htm

[Saturnian]

So I'd also like to ask...does the Pluto in Capricorn of 6 degrees affect me now.Or it is to be expected to affect me later on in the future?
I'd be very grateful for any answers provided.

[queeny]

Hey Saturnian, Pluto is affecting you and I in a similar way, in the sense that it is currently still transiting both of our 12th houses and will be approaching our ascendant in about 5 years. As I understand it, it means at the moment, life is challenging us to face our deepest fears and to clear out any old karmic stuff that no longer serves us. This is in escence preparing us for the massive positive life changes that are set to happen when Pluto hits our ascendant and starts transiting our first house. It is these changes that will set in motion a whole new way of life in a sense - living who we truly are

[Saturnian]

Originally Posted by queeny

Hey Saturnian, Pluto is affecting you and I in a similar way, in the sense that it is currently still transiting both of our 12th houses and will be approaching our ascendant in about 5 years. As I understand it, it means at the moment, life is challenging us to face our deepest fears and to clear out any old karmic stuff that no longer serves us. This is in escence preparing us for the massive positive life changes that are set to happen when Pluto hits our ascendant and starts transiting our first house. It is these changes that will set in motion a whole new way of life in a sense - living who we truly are

I hope the changes are positive and that they are worth it that we have to go through the difficulties of the 12th house.

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by pisces_girl
Your Part of Fortune is at 14º 30' Pisces. Ruler of Fortuna is Jupiter (I use traditional rulerships), which is in the 9th from Fortuna and conjunct the MC (using Placidus). I'm pretty sure this is considered a very promising configuration.

This is only correct using Traditional astrology, in modern terms Neptune rules pisces, not jupiter

Originally Posted by Saturnian

Yes I can read.Otherwise I wouldb't be able to answer to the rest of the posts(obviously).
Now I am starting to get it,so is supposed to be good then.
Thanks for your input.

If you want to research the differences try here..
House systems Traditional v Modern
http://www.astrologyinstitute.com/introduction_book.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8463
Traditional astrologers using ancient outdated information (unproven) that hardly seems relevant in a modern world
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7406&highlight=traditional
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/traditionallinks.html
http://episthemologie.wordpress.com/2009/01/12/5-differences-between-modern-and-traditional-astrology/
http://www.classicalastrologer.com/correspondence_course.htm
http://www.astrocollege.org/academic/department.cgi?DEPT=CERTIFIC&MOD=TRADITIONALASTRO& ACTION=SHOWMOD
http://www.renaissanceastrology.com/traditionalastrology.html

[astrologer50]

It'll take a while cause my environment at home doesn't help at all to develop these feelings.My family is all Earth signs so of course they'll belong more on the practical side,what is real,somewhat fearful of the world etc. and this is been passed on me.I find my home environment very depressing and not encouraging at all.I feel much much better among my friends who are far different than my family members.I feel more inspired by them and for me they are somewhat like relatives

with TAurus/venus IC, venus conj Asc is fired up by conj to mars and quieter conj with sun, (i have this one) it suggests you really are a 'gentle person inside' The only thing I can see about home problems is Scorpio/pluto MC, is one parent very controlling and demanding of you??

But since so many planets are in the 1st house,don't I get some of 1st house's qualities too?Or am I wrong on this one?
Another thing,I also have Saturn as a singleton if that counts.So my Saturn is enhanced,plus it is in the sign of Aquarius...

yes you will 'take on' some Aries traits of 'me first' attitude. Saturn is exalted in libra and saturn singleton does take on more importance, espec since it only has one aspect ie: square pluto, which will in time bring about raging ambition, which whilst young feels frustrating but as you age you WILL come into your own as they say....

did you move house ages 3 & 8? just looking at your solar arcs, as you are not 100% sure of your birthtime. In reality no is born at the o'clock, half past, quarter to and past. Even I rounded up my sons times, it's so easy and natural to do this. Remember 4minutes in time = 1' on Asc.

Your emphasis on friendships is shown by 3scorpio planets in 11th house EQUAL house, scorpio MC and pluto in 11th shows *major focus* of attention and pleasure. Moon here suggests you want nurturance but also give it out.

Ruler of 10th house in 11th house

Your professional success is related to your participation in some organization, group, union, or club. The support you receive from your friends will be crucial and because of this, you have to consider sociability as an important part of your life.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/r...sinhouses.html

let's not forget sun conj neptune, has no clear image espec in teenage years. sun conj uranus, seeks excitement something that will involve your pride, ego and is different, but will also add impatience.

So I'd also like to ask...does the Pluto in Capricorn of 6 degrees affect me now.Or it is to be expected to affect me later on in the future?
I'd be very grateful for any answers provided.

It will be a while off yet before pluto gets to your asc and it takes 18-24months to complete this. Look for the retrograde hit for major timings of changes.

I notice T Saturn is fast approaching a square to natal mars, this may well cause delays, frustrations and stop/go situations. then of course it starts on your stellium. Square to venus suggests a friendship or relationship may end, find yourself short of money and want to withdraw socially a bit...

[Saturnian]

Originally Posted by astrologer50

with TAurus/venus IC, venus conj Asc is fired up by conj to mars and quieter conj with sun, (i have this one) it suggests you really are a 'gentle person inside' The only thing I can see about home problems is Scorpio/pluto MC, is one parent very controlling and demanding of you??

My sister used to be...my mother not so much.But my first years were mostly spent with my sister because my mother was working and so she was acting somewhat of a parent.Not anymore,I've been keeping her to a distance.
As for gentleness,I do truly believe I am on the inside although I show it very little on the outside,but then I am also sensitive don't know if that has anything to do.I just don't like hurting people.

yes you will 'take on' some Aries traits of 'me first' attitude. Saturn is exalted in libra and saturn singleton does take on more importance, espec since it only has one aspect ie: square pluto, which will in time bring about raging ambition, which whilst young feels frustrating but as you age you WILL come into your own as they say....

I do have some childish traits like Aries and can be selfish over stupid things,but when it comes to important things I can wait and compromise with other.

did you move house ages 3 & 8? just looking at your solar arcs, as you are not 100% sure of your birthtime. In reality no is born at the o'clock, half past, quarter to and past. Even I rounded up my sons times, it's so easy and natural to do this. Remember 4minutes in time = 1' on Asc.

When I was like 3 and a half I moved to a different country.I moved houses again when I was around 10.Well I am guessing I was probably born in the first three minutes after 7.Like 7:01 or 7:02 or 7:03.I tried to get an accurate time but couldn't.

Your emphasis on friendships is shown by 3scorpio planets in 11th house EQUAL house, scorpio MC and pluto in 11th shows *major focus* of attention and pleasure. Moon here suggests you want nurturance but also give it out.

Hm...I do give a lot in friendships because I truly believe in it and find it wonderful,generally relationships not friendship alone.I am people oriented I guess.As for those planets being in the 11th,hm...I don't know.I was used to them being in the 10th and did find them quite accurate.
Yes,I do want nurturance and am always willing to give it to others first.I am the type who comforts others but unfortunately I find it a bit difficult the other way around.

let's not forget sun conj neptune, has no clear image espec in teenage years. sun conj uranus, seeks excitement something that will involve your pride, ego and is different, but will also add impatience.
It will be a while off yet before pluto gets to your asc and it takes 18-24months to complete this. Look for the retrograde hit for major timings of changes.

Hm...I simply hope I do get a clear image soon of who I am.It's not like I am enjoying this phase...

I notice T Saturn is fast approaching a square to natal mars, this may well cause delays, frustrations and stop/go situations. then of course it starts on your stellium. Square to venus suggests a friendship or relationship may end, find yourself short of money and want to withdraw socially a bit...

We shall see about his,I don't know yet.Time will tell.I'll keep this updated.

[astrologer50]

Hm...I do give a lot in friendships because I truly believe in it and find it wonderful,generally relationships not friendship alone.I am people oriented I guess.As for those planets being in the 11th,hm...I don't know.I was used to them being in the 10th and did find them quite accurate.
Yes,I do want nurturance and am always willing to give it to others first.I am the type who comforts others but unfortunately I find it a bit difficult the other way around.

hmmm sounds like 11th to me
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h11.html

Main Rulerships:
Traditionally known as the 'house of Good Fortune', the 11th house has rulership over friends and friendship, supporters, benefactors and those that help us directly or behind the scenes. It is the house of beneficial fate, positive hope, trust, praise, comfort, goals and ambitions

Main Rulerships:
Employment, profession or trade; also employers and those in command. Honour, prestige, reputation, power, control, dignity, glory, acclaim, advancement - the worldly position, career or life-interest that attains these.
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h10.html

[Saturnian]

Originally Posted by astrologer50

hmmm sounds like 11th to me
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h11.html

Perhaps...or most likely...it's still early for my career so I cannot support my view on it being more accurate in the 10th house,it's a bit early since I lack the experience and cannot offer more insight.