6 conjunctions of transit pluto

[Chaldean]

Hello everybody. I was looking at my natal chart, and noticed that sometime, transit pluto will eventualy be in a conjunction to my natal Uranus, Neptune, Saturn, Moon, Ascendant, and North Node, all in that order. The majority of those planets are positioned in my 12th house. Also, shorty after transit pluto conjuncts all those planets and points, my progressed sun will conjunct my progressed pluto, both in scorpio.

I understand that all of this indicates some extreme form of transformation/change, yet I don't know how, or what type of change. I know this will happen some time in the distant future, but I'm curious as to how it will happen, as pluto will be having a major influence on my chart, especialy considering my progressed sun will enter scorpio in about 9 years.

I've attacked first my natal chart, and second the chart when my progressed sun will conjunct my progressed pluto.

I would much appreciate help, thank you to anyone who can describe what will happen.

[cossie]

Hi Chaldean,

Most of these planets are in your 12th house so that is where you will begin to feel the effect of the Pluto transits.
I have had Pluto transiting my 12th house for a while now and it has been a positive transformative period for me.My ascendant is at 8'Cap and I have my N node and black moon Lilith in my 12th which will recieve the pluto transit first so Im yet to see the effect that will create.
From my own research and what Ive been told by members on here the transit of Pluto through your 12th house does all the subconcious groundwork to prepare you for the transit of your ascendant,which is the time when all the changes will surface and be shown to the world.
Many things have changed in my world during the transit of my 12th house. My advice is to see it as an interesting journey,stay positive, and go with the flow.

[unukalhai]

Cossie is very much correct. Let me see what I can add

I too have had Pluto passing through my 12th, since around 1999, and I certainly started some major changes around that point! As Pluto moves through the 12th, it tends to press you to address alot of beneath the surface sort of things, as Pluto wants you to clean up all those hidden or seldom-addressed parts of yourself. It's sort of a housecleaning, and rearrangement of the inner self, just as Cossie mentions, for a sort of rebirth as Pluto crosses your ascendant. When Pluto is moving through your 12th house, you'll make some huge changes internally, but you probably aren't going to display those to people... You'll sort of hide those changes, from most people, however there is likely to be a special subset of people, who are involved in or assisting your transformations, that you will share them with, yet you will still be guarded even to them. You won't be hiding the changes for malicious reasons, but simply because you will feel like the worm that hasn't quite become the butterfly yet. You'll encounter urges to be like the peacock and show all your beautiful new feathers, but you'll be likely to resist those temptations because you'll know deep down inside the product isn't finished yet... But sometimes you'll open up to certain people you feel your personal transformations can be relevant to: these are people on a similar path, and you won't be able to resist. There's this feeling of inner satisfaction working towards the finished product, like you are storing up monoatomic gold (the alchemist's dream) inside yourself, much in the same manner of the worm->butterfly transformation.

Atleast that's how it's been working for me! It's been fun. A few years to go, and it'll be sliding across my ascendant, after making a few passes over Venus, which is about to happen.

Pluto feels pretty comfortable going through the 12th house. Pluto loves deep, hidden things, and the 12th is all about the deeper, more inaccessable parts of yourself. He'll do his best to bubble them up to the surface, and in all reality he's doing you a big favor by doing so. If your psyche is fairly solid and built on a solid foundation, and you've truly connected with your inner self, it will be a time of self-realization. If you've let alot of cobwebs build up in your 12th house by self-denial and escapism, you may have a harder time.. but I don't see that for you.. You have the resonance enhancer and stobe-light like oddball of revelation, Uranus, smack on the 12th house Koch-system cusp, and in tight square to your Sun, so the 12th house is a very high vibrational resonance for you, especially with all those other planets in there. It's not so hidden, and is a big part of your psyche, so it's unlikely you've repressed the 12th like people will either afflicted or no placements there.

You also have your Sun and both inner personal planets, Mercury and Venus, sitting in your natal 8th house, Pluto's house, and the house of the "forbidden", so you've likely always focused on those deep Plutonian issues.

Pluto in your natal chart is also fairly close to the MC, and in the "Plus zone" according to Gauquelin sector logic, which basically means it's a strong part of the personality and will be powerful in the makeup of the individual. I've got the same deal..

The Sun/Pluto progression won't be for a long while after, 2033 or so... Quite the ways to go! Looks like Pluto moves through the 12th planetary grouping from 2011 to 2019 or so, and hits your ascendant around 2024-2025.

I had Pluto roll over (by transit) my Sun in 1996, and to say the least, it was a life changing time! It's like there's two me's: the pre-1996 me, and the post-1996 me. Quite literally! The pre-1996 me is just a memory, but that's not a bad thing: the "new" me is a beefed up, revamped, more selfless creation. I totally realigned my spiritual values, accepted that there were spiritual powers beyond my control or ability to comprehend (and that they were benevolent) and opened my heart and soul to them. It was also the first kundalini awakening for me, a very powerful experience. It was also the death of my ego, the commitment of my life path to spirit. As it was the beginning of a Pluto/Sun cycle (conjunction transits always begin a new personal cycle of the objects in question), a cycle that life it too short to complete, and as such it was truly a rebirth. I'm pretty confident the time of that transit will always be remembered in this life as a defining year, the laying of a cornerstone. Honestly, the final chart for that transit is like a secondary natal map.

My only complaint about the Pluto/Sun transit was that I almost got arrested for something I didn't do... I had _absolutely_ nothing to do with it, but was almost charged with a freakin' felony. Of course, it was all part of a power trip - typical with Pluto! In short, I got framed for a robbery by a local businessman who wasn't happy I had a say in awarding a sizable contract to a local competitor, and he staged the whole **** thing. But it's all good, I got the last laugh and still have a clean record! He doesn't :P *giggles*

I would imagine the Pluto/Sun progression will play out in a very similar manner, as it involves the same energies, same aspect, and about the same duration, although progressions are noted to be more subtle and better observed from hindsight... But don't assume you will almost get arrested, although power struggles/confrontations based on power are likely.

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[Virinchi]

i've discussed this topic here
http://lightwarriors.ws/news.php?extend.42
but without pluto

[AquariusMoon]

Hi, Chaldean. Pluto will cj your Uranus in 2010, 4 yrs from now. Maybe you'll be in college then working away towards your future goals. That's not a bad idea since Uranus is so futuristic. With Pluto in H12 aspecting your H8 Sun, you'll be interested in deepening your self-awareness particularly of the unconscious. Perhaps you'll be studying psychology or focusing on dreamwork, shamanic healing, some kind of inner exploration, or even marital arts. People with planets in H12 can be very creative or artistic. This could be a period in which you change your style of art or create something very unique.

AqMoon

[Chaldean]

Phychology? Wow! I was planning on studying Chemistry! But I guess it's likely that I'll change my pursuites by then. So I'm starting to understand that I'm going to unconsciensly change, and will eventualy show it when pluto conj. my asc.

Although, transite pluto, when it conj. my Natal uranus, will also square my natal sun. I'm guessing this part of my life won't be static at all.

Although, Transite pluto conj. natal saturn, and Transite pluto conj. natal moon seem to have very different effects, so what is to happen when Transite pluto conj. my natal Saturn-Moon conjunction?

And thanks for the reply everyone, I understand the whole pluto in the 12th house effect more

[AquariusMoon]

Originally Posted by Chaldean

Phychology? Wow! I was planning on studying Chemistry! But I guess it's likely that I'll change my pursuites by then. So I'm starting to understand that I'm going to unconsciensly change, and will eventualy show it when pluto conj. my asc.

Although, transite pluto, when it conj. my Natal uranus, will also square my natal sun. I'm guessing this part of my life won't be static at all.

Although, Transite pluto conj. natal saturn, and Transite pluto conj. natal moon seem to have very different effects, so what is to happen when Transite pluto conj. my natal Saturn-Moon conjunction?

And thanks for the reply everyone, I understand the whole pluto in the 12th house effect more

No, I didn't say that you wouldn't study chemistry. If you want to study chemistry, you'll study chemistry! It's just that generally, people do some form of inner exploration when Pluto transits H12. I've been through this transit myself, and I also did some inner exploration. It seems to be a common thing, but not necessarily the major thing. It could be like a hobby or something that you're drawn to now and then.

[Chaldean]

Hmm, I'm starting to feel like your talking about my interest in astrology. I do use it to better my understanding of myself, so maybe when Pluto conj. my Uranus, I will have developed my knowledge of astrology enough to change my inner self?
It would be nice if that were the case.

[Teddybull]

Interesting post. I, too , have transiting pluto in my 12th house. However I have natal 26 Jupiter in Sag so pluto is going over it now.

I recently had trans Neptune conj my sun so talk about sweeping changes. Ouch! Slowly, with much effort and pain (that's putting it mildly).

I had been through the toughest (so far!) time of my life within the last two years. Divorce, relocation, job changes, death...... I look back and I don't know how I managed. I moved to a house with 5 acres and live a secluded life. I thought I would like it but it has been a challenge. No tv, very few friends (I think I want friends, but I am finding out that I really don't want to be bothered by people, at least superficial). I read lots, meditate and introspect. Very few people really know my depth and feelings. Like another post, I think this transit makes you a worm, where you have your cocoon for protection from outside intruders. You go through this metamorphasis quietly, deeply and with great amount of faith. I know I have to change but it is such a challenge not to nurse old wounds and bad habits. With pluto in the 12th it is inevitable that your subconscious (karma) is mirrored back to you whether through other people or events. I like the idea of pluto going through my 1st in a few years. I have three planets conj my 6 degree Cap asc. It will certainly be a time of people saying "what happened to her"......

Thanks for everyones insight. It's interesting to see all the wonderful changes and experiences that people have posted. tb

[AquariusMoon]

Originally Posted by unukalhai

Cossie is very much correct. Let me see what I can add

I too have had Pluto passing through my 12th, since around 1999, and I certainly started some major changes around that point! As Pluto moves through the 12th, it tends to press you to address alot of beneath the surface sort of things, as Pluto wants you to clean up all those hidden or seldom-addressed parts of yourself. It's sort of a housecleaning, and rearrangement of the inner self, just as Cossie mentions, for a sort of rebirth as Pluto crosses your ascendant. When Pluto is moving through your 12th house, you'll make some huge changes internally, but you probably aren't going to display those to people... You'll sort of hide those changes, from most people, however there is likely to be a special subset of people, who are involved in or assisting your transformations, that you will share them with, yet you will still be guarded even to them. You won't be hiding the changes for malicious reasons, but simply because you will feel like the worm that hasn't quite become the butterfly yet. You'll encounter urges to be like the peacock and show all your beautiful new feathers, but you'll be likely to resist those temptations because you'll know deep down inside the product isn't finished yet... But sometimes you'll open up to certain people you feel your personal transformations can be relevant to: these are people on a similar path, and you won't be able to resist. There's this feeling of inner satisfaction working towards the finished product, like you are storing up monoatomic gold (the alchemist's dream) inside yourself, much in the same manner of the worm->butterfly transformation.

Atleast that's how it's been working for me! It's been fun. A few years to go, and it'll be sliding across my ascendant, after making a few passes over Venus, which is about to happen.

Pluto feels pretty comfortable going through the 12th house. Pluto loves deep, hidden things, and the 12th is all about the deeper, more inaccessable parts of yourself. He'll do his best to bubble them up to the surface, and in all reality he's doing you a big favor by doing so. If your psyche is fairly solid and built on a solid foundation, and you've truly connected with your inner self, it will be a time of self-realization. If you've let alot of cobwebs build up in your 12th house by self-denial and escapism, you may have a harder time.. but I don't see that for you..

Beautifully said! Everyone has made such good points. I'm going to have to slowly reread what you've said over again and really think it over. I know I haven't completely processed this transit by any means that started for me in 1998 with an eclipse to natal Pluto. TeddyBull, your experience was so much like mine! I'm surprised to hear that someone else went through the same things! I've posted about my experiences here and there, but have left much detail out, sometimes talking in like a code that only others that have gone through the experience would know what I was talking about. I think people do that when talking about their Pluto transit. There is a need for secrecy. You're right, Unukalhai, there may be a few people in one's inner circle who know many of the details, but there is no one person who knows the whole story! I hadn't thought of that before. There are so many reasons why that happens. Some can probably write a really interesting book or screenplay out of this transit and label it fiction. All I know is that looking at things with a philosophical view helped a lot. It's a great time to search for answers and explore the unknown.

AqMoon

[Teddybull]

Aq moon, I like that talking in a "code like"..... yes, with the few friends that I trust and communicate with on a deeper level it is much deeper than an intellectual casual companion. I was so fortunate when I got my job promotion, I was put in charge to manage a satellite department along with a secretary. It was just her and I in a beautiful lakefront new building. People always comment on my office. I was put in this building from the beginning of all my changes. I am a firm believer not to mix business with friendship but it so happened that my secretary was so intuitive about my pain. I can attribute much of my healing to her presence and understanding. (Pisces sun, Cancer asc and Cancer moon - 12th house moon and 8th house sun - WATER EVERYWHERE!lol). She is the only person in the entire office I trust after being their for 10 years. I like the entire dept but casually and professionally.

I think when you go thru a major transformation, you must be alone and introspect in order to change. Very few people can go on this journey with you... and when you find a friend to go through it, you will never forget them. I also think people tend to turn neurotic if they resist the change and ignore all signals to go within. I guess this is where drugs, sex and alcohol plays a part.... creates drama and gets us deeper in the delusion.

[Chaldean]

Thanks everyone for the experience.

Yet I'm still haunted by something. When transit pluto is about to enter into my 12th house, beggining the process everyone has described, it will first make an exact conjunction to my natal Uranus. I would assume this would cause sudden, unexpected change, or it may work to make me extremely radical. While pluto conjuncts my natal Uranus, it will also be in an exact square to my natal sun, as well as a loose trine to my Natal vertex. Honestly, I have no idea what the trine to vertex will do, but the combination of pluto conjuct Uranus, and square sun, doesn't sound appetizing at all.

I'm unexperienced in transits, so my impression is that I'm going to be driven to insanity. Before I begin preparing to prevent mental insanity, is my impression correct, or is this going to be less painful then I expect it to be?

Thanks to anyone who can clear this up for me and relieve my anxiousness.

[unukalhai]

It sure would make an interesting screenplay... Or atleast a good song, which gives me a few ideas!

And I'd agree, Teddy is right on, my experience has been very much the same!

[Chaldean]

It sure would make an interesting screenplay... Or atleast a good song, which gives me a few ideas!

Wha-huh? Screenplay? Song?

I was already curious and confussed. And honestly, now my imagination has been exited; is the degree of action involved with what I described enough to write an interesting screenplay? The possibilites of what will happen are now endless in my mind, but I haven't a clue as to what will realy happen. Could you please explain how a screenplay could be written based on the situation?