Why do I crave someone to 'love' me so much

[retinoid]

that my moods totally depend on someone loving me or giving me some kind of notice and when they don't (anyone) I feel worthless and bad. I crave this even though I absolutely do not WANT to.

[Theonlymomentwewerealone]

i would think having your venus and moon so close!

[danashock]

Originally Posted by Theonlymomentwewerealone

i would think having your venus and moon so close!

add to that having them in the 7th house!!(house of relationships) such intimate planets like the moon in the 7th will give the need of a companion/partner to love in order to feel some security.

you have alot of plutonic energy too (packed 8th house and packed scorpio planets) so that makes it hard to "let go",as well as a charge of major outer planets which also increases the intensity.

[bittermoon]

Yes, plus having the Moon-Venus conjunction in the 7th house of partnerships.

Having said that, I do believe that love is a basic human need. Your need is probably emphasized by having that conjunction in the 7th house. Having the Moon in the 7th indicates that you seek emotional fulfillment through relationships, which puts you in a vulnerable spot as you're dependent on someone else. I have my Moon in 7th, too and in Scorpio to make matters worse

I'd think, though with your Moon-Venus conjunction you'd come across as quite likeable and you're probably quite adaptable to somebody else's needs, too. Just be aware you don't lose yourself in the process.

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by retinoid

that my moods totally depend on someone loving me or giving me some kind of notice and when they don't (anyone) I feel worthless and bad. I crave this even though I absolutely do not WANT to.

bittermoon has this pinned. In a male chart we look at moon/venus/7th house planets, ruler of 7th and how these two are aspected.

Now both moon and venus are conjunct but in saggi.they can be late for settling down because they need lots of freedom and independence within relationships and not many signs (other than aries and aquarius) would understand this need.

To further reinforce this we see moon in conjunct uranus, which is on my list of divorce aspects. there is a lack of air in the elemental balances, but air ASC and 2planets in air house (7th naturally ruled by libra) then we look to see what mercury is doing and see it's conj mars, which can express (at times) as being too forceful in speech and add argumentativeness. Next pluto is wide orb conj mercury at 9' approaching, which for me is too wide, but if you do feel this aspect it can (on occasions) add verbal lacerations and acid tongue. Great for research, digging and delving..

Now sun conj pluto really enforces the scorpio-ness of dogmatic assertive, controlling, demanding nature

Sun in Conjunction Pluto
The expression of your will receives a power punch from the planet of intensity, Pluto. You can meet and transform the most serious obstacles to your self development and growth. You can lead the pack, so to speak, because you have that special something called charisma.
Be sure to use your magnetism to further humankind in a positive direction. All leaders eventually reach a crossroad where they will choose between a path of manipulation and power, or conscientious service.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology....htm#nasuasppl

Gemini Asc (along with pisces) is probably one of the most difficult in childhood. I call gemini risers the 'why children' wearing parents down asking questions, why why why. How does this work, why does that do this? sometimes I think parents 'switch off' from constant questions and then the child feel alientated, misunderstood, bit like a square peg in round hole. does this resonate?

sun/pluto aspects can show problems with father/men/authority figures and where it expresses is 6th house of work, co-workers and daily routines.

Pluto in 6th House - cadent
· Workaholic. may be a great stickler for routine and discipline, maybe hard on themselves
· Health ‑ hate to admit to illnesses.
· Can make a career over being ill ‑ hypochondria.
· Obsessed over health. If Pluto is afflicted may suggest bowel problems (Pluto characteristic constipating action in the literal sense)
· If lack of fulfillment through work, could overeat or comfort eat

[retinoid]

Originally Posted by astrologer50

bittermoon has this pinned. In a male chart we look at moon/venus/7th house planets, ruler of 7th and how these two are aspected.

Now both moon and venus are conjunct but in saggi.they can be late for settling down because they need lots of freedom and independence within relationships and not many signs (other than aries and aquarius) would understand this need.

To further reinforce this we see moon in conjunct uranus, which is on my list of divorce aspects. there is a lack of air in the elemental balances, but air ASC and 2planets in air house (7th naturally ruled by libra) then we look to see what mercury is doing and see it's conj mars, which can express (at times) as being too forceful in speech and add argumentativeness. Next pluto is wide orb conj mercury at 9' approaching, which for me is too wide, but if you do feel this aspect it can (on occasions) add verbal lacerations and acid tongue. Great for research, digging and delving..

Now sun conj pluto really enforces the scorpio-ness of dogmatic assertive, controlling, demanding nature



Gemini Asc (along with pisces) is probably one of the most difficult in childhood. I call gemini risers the 'why children' wearing parents down asking questions, why why why. How does this work, why does that do this? sometimes I think parents 'switch off' from constant questions and then the child feel alientated, misunderstood, bit like a square peg in round hole. does this resonate?

sun/pluto aspects can show problems with father/men/authority figures and where it expresses is 6th house of work, co-workers and daily routines.

Pluto in 6th House - cadent
· Workaholic. may be a great stickler for routine and discipline, maybe hard on themselves
· Health ‑ hate to admit to illnesses.
· Can make a career over being ill ‑ hypochondria.
· Obsessed over health. If Pluto is afflicted may suggest bowel problems (Pluto characteristic constipating action in the literal sense)
· If lack of fulfillment through work, could overeat or comfort eat

Hey thanks. Yes I have been told I am charming when I want to be and I definitely have had problems starting fights and arguing (though I am A LOT better).

The sacrificing my own needs for my partner's needs never applied to me which is why I put the moon and venus in the 8th house (and some astrologers put it in the 8th house). I always felt I would probably get divorced but let's hope not.

Sexually...I seesaw from wanting sex to not caring about it. I find that hook ups are way too much work and I usually get bored in the middle of sex. It just isn't exciting for me which is undoubtedly because of that ***** saturn being there. Hopefully one day I will be able to deal with that problem I feel like I have to perform. I do it, and pretty well, but it isn't fun for me so I have been celibate for 2yrs! Thoguh I haven't had sex w/ anyone I loved. Which is also a major problem.

Right now my finances and material possessions have come into play balancing with 'spirituality' and a desire to help others. Once again I seesaw from optimism to pessimism, though I am never totally without money and don't have to struggle, I also don't make any leeway with increasing my money to the point that I want to. So I am stuck and it is frustrating.

So relationships have fell to the wayside. Something I used to value a lot isn't so important anymore. I felt like how it was to be alone and am okay with it and like I said relationships/sex feel like a lot of work.

The moon/venus in the seventh house may apply to me but I just don't feel like I ever compromise myself for others. In fact I usually make my voice heard in situations even if I like the person a lot. I am not afraid to upset the waters because if they like me back, then they will address my concerns. If I lose them for that, then they weren't right for me. I always make concessions to make people happy but if they don't do it for me I get extremely angry and usually stop talking to them, though that is a bad habit and I am trying to stop that. I have a lot of bad habits

[retinoid]

Wow I just read about the moon conjunct with uranus and that is me 100%. I HATE routines, which is why I never understood how having so many 6th house planets makes one obsessed with routines. I figured it was just my gemini asc. or something. I also hate traditional things like the holidays. And usually don't travel to visit anyone for the holidays or celebrate them. And I am very emotionally present and absent. So yes, that plays a huge role in my life and tends to make me seem a little unstable most likely (because I am). I cannot STAND working, coming home, going to the gym and eating dinner and going to sleep and doing it again. I get severely depressed when I am in some sort of daily routine. Which was strange since I have such an emphasis on the 6th house.

[virgo18]

Hey this is much more about 2nd house of self worth, the love abd acceptance we have to our selves. If the state of your mood depends on how other love you or not, that's low self worth and dependence.


Maybe your parents have something to be with this feelings you are experiencing right now about worth. (you must know hwat you parents did) because I prefer not to talk about other person's chiron if they dont allow me to do it.

Having Jupiter exalted in a conjunciton with chiron is very nice... tells that you may be one of the few persons that may get rid of chiron wound memories.
But as Saturn and Uranus and Neptune are opposing Chiron:
with saturn: You will have to do an extra work to forget and clear those wounds and recover that self love you missed... maybe that will happen when you are more older if you dont start working with that from now days.
This will make you wiser.
With Neptune and Uranus: I have it also opposing my chiron and sometimes the hiron wounds appear via dreams, or some situations make you remember randomly such wounds and its stressing.
Must of the Chrion in Cancer generation have those oppositions.


well.... the moon conjunct venus in the 7th also suggest the need of someone near to feel secure. But not very insense because you have moon and venus conjunct uranus which needs a lot of space and time alone.

[R4VEN]

Chiron in Cancer is all about feeling that the love you have is just not enough, and so this then leads to a kind of craving for love - just as you have described. Add to this Chiron is in the 2nd, so it will be difficult for you - at least, early in your life - to find value in your life, which includes finding value in yourself. Many people will tell you the truth about this - that is, you have to find value in yourself, because it is always risky to rely on `getting' this from another.

I feel that Chiron's opposition to Neptune adds a layer of illusion/delusion to this issue. Perhaps you will find it difficult to see yourself as being loveable, and this may even be the source of the problem you have described. Everything always begins with you.

[dhundhun]

Originally Posted by retinoid

that my moods totally depend on someone loving me or giving me some kind of notice and when they don't (anyone) I feel worthless and bad. I crave this even though I absolutely do not WANT to.

Mars @ anaretic degree alone is enough to feel a need for intense and spontaneous love.

The conjunction of Moon/Venus is sextile to Mars. This adds emotions and need for compassion to need for intense love.