What's wrong with me?

[Jesusistheway]

Why can't I hold a potential love interest? I always do something wrong. I disrespected a girl I liked (which now Im liking more thats shes leaving me) and well like I said shes tired of the petty arguments and leaving though in a kind way which hurts. I dont seem to know I like someone until they leave me. Or someone will find something wrong with me, they'll say I dont know what I want, etc. I was hoping someone can tell me what to watch for so I dont make the same mistakes over again. It doesnt even reach the point of steady dates so Im guessing it has something to do with my communication skills. Ive gone on two dates and semi three or four. Im pretty picky. Im in my late twenties and this is just getting old and Im getting tired.

[Lithuel]

For romance, you want to look principally at your Venus. Other planets will have influence, but Venus is the most important. Your Venus (and Sun) are opposite Neptune. Venus, being the planet of romance, beauty, and values, is in tense relation to Neptune, the planet of illusions, dreams, spirituality, deception, boundary-dissolving, etc.

When you have an opposition, you usually identify with one planet more (probably Venus, in your case), and until you fully incorporate the other planet (probably Neptune) into your psyche, you will experience that energy coming at (or even attacking) you from the outside.

I recommend you just google "Venus opposite (or opposed to) Neptune" and read the wealth of free info out there. Read about Venus in the 5th house, Venus conjunct Sun, Neptune in the 11th house, and Venus trine Pluto. Then try to synthesize all the information to figure out what's going to work best for you.

With your Neptune opposite Venus and Sun, you're going to need to be very careful about not deceiving yourself in your relationships, one way or the other.

[Nacho]

Originally Posted by Jesusistheway

Why can't I hold a potential love interest? I always do something wrong. I disrespected a girl I liked (which now Im liking more thats shes leaving me) and well like I said shes tired of the petty arguments and leaving though in a kind way which hurts. I dont seem to know I like someone until they leave me. Or someone will find something wrong with me, they'll say I dont know what I want, etc. I was hoping someone can tell me what to watch for so I dont make the same mistakes over again. It doesnt even reach the point of steady dates so Im guessing it has something to do with my communication skills. Ive gone on two dates and semi three or four. Im pretty picky. Im in my late twenties and this is just getting old and Im getting tired.

Hello, you need to realize communication skills are vastly more important than physical beauty/attractiveness in giving you opportunities. You have a common Moon, Venus, Merkury. The pitfalls of common signs is vacillation and indecisiveness, and possibly dishonesty. However with patience you should overcome flaws in your personality. Also you should conquer Neptunes flaws of fear and deceit. Does this make sense?

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by Lithuel

For romance, you want to look principally at your Venus. Other planets will have influence, but Venus is the most important. Your Venus (and Sun) are opposite Neptune. Venus, being the planet of romance, beauty, and values, is in tense relation to Neptune, the planet of illusions, dreams, spirituality, deception, boundary-dissolving, etc.

When you have an opposition, you usually identify with one planet more (probably Venus, in your case), and until you fully incorporate the other planet (probably Neptune) into your psyche, you will experience that energy coming at (or even attacking) you from the outside.

I recommend you just google "Venus opposite (or opposed to) Neptune" and read the wealth of free info out there. Read about Venus in the 5th house, Venus conjunct Sun, Neptune in the 11th house, and Venus trine Pluto. Then try to synthesize all the information to figure out what's going to work best for you.

With your Neptune opposite Venus and Sun, you're going to need to be very careful about not deceiving yourself in your relationships, one way or the other.

Can you give me an example of someone deceiving themselves in a relationship? Could it be that for instance I do not know I love someone until its too late? Cause that does happen to me.

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by Nacho

Hello, you need to realize communication skills are vastly more important than physical beauty/attractiveness in giving you opportunities. You have a common Moon, Venus, Merkury. The pitfalls of common signs is vacillation and indecisiveness, and possibly dishonesty. However with patience you should overcome flaws in your personality. Also you should conquer Neptunes flaws of fear and deceit. Does this make sense?

Yes thank I wonder whether the friend wants a romance or a friendship or both? And thats how I see it.
Thanks for your replies.

[dr. farr]

(Following is based on my own approach to delineation and might contain statements not generally accepted in conventional natal chart interpretation)

From my perspective the problem is that you might be too intense (regarding relationships):
-Leo = Sun disposits your (whole sign) 7th house of relationships
-the Sun is posited in your 5th (whole sign) house of romance, pleasures, and related
-Venus-universal Love significator-is combust the Sun in that 5th house = the intensity of the fiery Sun has absorbed the gentle quality of Love symbolized by Venus
-the Sun is further intensified by being in the Egyptian Term (of Gemini) of the fiery Mars
-Mars, Saturn and Pluto in Scorpio up at the top of the chart, holding sway by elevation over all other planets, with Mars in its rulership of Scorpio, retrograde (giving a self-conflicted, defiant and rebellious quality to the Martial influence), and Saturn too, retrograde (rebellious and defiant rather than anchoring, patient, steady) all add to this intensity-situation regarding relationships, shown by the Sun and Sun/Venus situation.

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by dr. farr

(Following is based on my own approach to delineation and might contain statements not generally accepted in conventional natal chart interpretation)

From my perspective the problem is that you might be too intense (regarding relationships):
-Leo = Sun disposits your (whole sign) 7th house of relationships
-the Sun is posited in your 5th (whole sign) house of romance, pleasures, and related
-Venus-universal Love significator-is combust the Sun in that 5th house = the intensity of the fiery Sun has absorbed the gentle quality of Love symbolized by Venus
-the Sun is further intensified by being in the Egyptian Term (of Gemini) of the fiery Mars
-Mars, Saturn and Pluto in Scorpio up at the top of the chart, holding sway by elevation over all other planets, with Mars in its rulership of Scorpio, retrograde (giving a self-conflicted, defiant and rebellious quality to the Martial influence), and Saturn too, retrograde (rebellious and defiant rather than anchoring, patient, steady) all add to this intensity-situation regarding relationships, shown by the Sun and Sun/Venus situation.

My friend said that I come across as too heavy, in other words I am not superficial nor shallow when communicating with another and trying to get to know them. I guess Im no fun cause I come across to intense and heavy talking about things people dont want to get into. Yikes! Guess I have to meet like minded women, but I wonder what kind of woman she'd be? I can have fun but it depends on the situation.

[Lithuel]

Originally Posted by Jesusistheway

Can you give me an example of someone deceiving themselves in a relationship? Could it be that for instance I do not know I love someone until its too late? Cause that does happen to me.

That is one manifestation. I believe that your natal chart is like a contract with the universe; you've promised to fulfill or act out the energies represented there. The planets that you incorporate into your psyche and allow them to express themselves (in a manner healthy or unhealthy), these planets you have "mastered". The planets in your chart that you do not incorporate into your psyche, that you reject and try to not deal with, you still have to act out these energies. So your soul draws the energies to itself to be experienced externally. This external experience is often unpleasant, because we humans don't usually recognize the energy as something originating from within ourselves.

With oppositions, the person usually identifies more with the closer-in planet, in this case, your Sun and Venus, and experiences the farther-out planet as another person acting upon them. Thus, you're likely to experience other people with strong Neptune themes until you learn to recognize and incorporate your Neptune energy within your own psyche.

[danashock]

the first thing i noticed when i looked at your chart are those heavy neptune oppositions (with a busily aspected moon in pisces,so thats alot of neptunian energy) and secondly lots of plutonic trines and energy (mars and saturn in scorpio along with pluto cusping it but i would say the chart is pulling it to be more scorpio as well).

since you already know your astrology i think those are the most important themes in your chart. those 2 aspects that your venus has are more than a handful and are also a recurring theme.

while you are a great intuitive and to some extent mystical i do think that very often you can fall prey to delusions and escaping, you may not see things for what they really are.and also may be possessive/paranoid and with venus in cancer confirming that you find it very hard to let go as well.

you mentioned something about communication and with all these neptunian and watery energy you find it hard to get your point across and see through the fog,even though i think it was a gift that you have the sun and mercury in gemini so you can learn to express yourself better(5th house) and have more clarity in thought, because the sun is what we aspire to be, but the moon is what we already are.

i have seen many charts with similar influences that often say that they are at a loss of words, and verbalizing concepts can be a challenge because the spoken word is so different from what is there in their minds,it does not depict their thoughts clearly.

in this lifetime you are meant to find clarity in thought and verbalizing whats in your head,self expression. so if you try to slowly work your way through these challenges i am quite sure that your relationships will improve a great deal, because in the end relationships are ruled by air and air is communicative and is all about putting things into words.

oh,neptune is changing signs soon into pisces and thats gonna activate your moon big time!! its nice to have it in your 1st and become artistic and imaginative (painting,poetry etc) so try to make use of it and do not give into its delusions,no matter how tempting this may seem!

best of luck =)

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by Lithuel

That is one manifestation. I believe that your natal chart is like a contract with the universe; you've promised to fulfill or act out the energies represented there. The planets that you incorporate into your psyche and allow them to express themselves (in a manner healthy or unhealthy), these planets you have "mastered". The planets in your chart that you do not incorporate into your psyche, that you reject and try to not deal with, you still have to act out these energies. So your soul draws the energies to itself to be experienced externally. This external experience is often unpleasant, because we humans don't usually recognize the energy as something originating from within ourselves.

With oppositions, the person usually identifies more with the closer-in planet, in this case, your Sun and Venus, and experiences the farther-out planet as another person acting upon them. Thus, you're likely to experience other people with strong Neptune themes until you learn to recognize and incorporate your Neptune energy within your own psyche.

Well the good thing about attracting someone with Neptune themes is that they are musical therefore like minded, at least I've seen such with males. Not sure what you mean by incorporating Neptuntian energy in my psyche?

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by danashock

the first thing i noticed when i looked at your chart are those heavy neptune oppositions (with a busily aspected moon in pisces,so thats alot of neptunian energy) and secondly lots of plutonic trines and energy (mars and saturn in scorpio along with pluto cusping it but i would say the chart is pulling it to be more scorpio as well).

since you already know your astrology i think those are the most important themes in your chart. those 2 aspects that your venus has are more than a handful and are also a recurring theme.

while you are a great intuitive and to some extent mystical i do think that very often you can fall prey to delusions and escaping, you may not see things for what they really are.and also may be possessive/paranoid and with venus in cancer confirming that you find it very hard to let go as well.

you mentioned something about communication and with all these neptunian and watery energy you find it hard to get your point across and see through the fog,even though i think it was a gift that you have the sun and mercury in gemini so you can learn to express yourself better(5th house) and have more clarity in thought, because the sun is what we aspire to be, but the moon is what we already are.

i have seen many charts with similar influences that often say that they are at a loss of words, and verbalizing concepts can be a challenge because the spoken word is so different from what is there in their minds,it does not depict their thoughts clearly.

in this lifetime you are meant to find clarity in thought and verbalizing whats in your head,self expression. so if you try to slowly work your way through these challenges i am quite sure that your relationships will improve a great deal, because in the end relationships are ruled by air and air is communicative and is all about putting things into words.

oh,neptune is changing signs soon into pisces and thats gonna activate your moon big time!! its nice to have it in your 1st and become artistic and imaginative (painting,poetry etc) so try to make use of it and do not give into its delusions,no matter how tempting this may seem!

best of luck =)

I guess I took my moon in pisces for granted by its musical influence in me as well as the Neptune aspects. It does make sense. I try to write lyrics and put it to music, though I wish I were more deep like Bob Dylan's lyrics haha. He is extraordinarily gifted. I know it comes from God, craziness. Well yeah the thing I have to learn is to communicate clearly and effectively with other people. Having lillith in pisces does not help whatsoever, cause it makes me feel like I am going through life virtually and I can't make things clear when someone speaks to me. But yes its true I'm good relating mentally but not emotionally or in relationships, as in forming a bond, if you know what I mean, especially keeping that bond. Oh and my venus is in gemini actually, thank goodness, but I am nostalgic anyway for past friendships/relationships with that moon in pisces. If I'm busy I can forget about the person, but when night falls and I'm alone well then that moon kicks in.

Thanks for your replies

[dr. farr]

Notice you have a power-packed 5th (whole sign house) under Gemini: not only the North Node is there (and the planets I mentioned earlier) but also the Part of Fortune (@ 4 Gemini within nodal orb of conjunction with the Dragon's Head)- you will have more luck and benefit re to 5th house matters than you might think: perhaps by calming down your intensity in these matters, and being a bit lighter in your thoughts and communications in these matters, that underlying good luck/good fortune might have a chance to manifest!

[Jesusistheway]

Originally Posted by dr. farr

Notice you have a power-packed 5th (whole sign house) under Gemini: not only the North Node is there (and the planets I mentioned earlier) but also the Part of Fortune (@ 4 Gemini within nodal orb of conjunction with the Dragon's Head)- you will have more luck and benefit re to 5th house matters than you might think: perhaps by calming down your intensity in these matters, and being a bit lighter in your thoughts and communications in these matters, that underlying good luck/good fortune might have a chance to manifest!

Hmm.. so I guess aspects in astrology can manifest in more than one way. I agree, someone else recently told me this too

[danashock]

Originally Posted by Jesusistheway

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Oh and my venus is in gemini actually, thank goodness, but I am nostalgic anyway for past friendships/relationships with that moon in pisces.

oh,my bad!! yeah exactly,water is nostalgic and u have quite alot of that,you can use venus in gemini as an asset in your case

cause it makes me feel like I am going through life virtually and I can't make things clear when someone speaks to me.

that sentence is so very neptunian! you dont have to be bob dylan to make good lyrics! what i see from your chart is that you can create beautiful and trancedental music,something spiritual and a bit trippy and it could help u express urself as long as you enjoy it