To View or Not to View. That is the Question.

[SagiCap]

I'm hesitating about moving to a new place I just found. The owners love me and there's a lot of competition for the home, but they already told me I'm their top choice. I need a place with a bit more space. The new place is a more luxurious, but one huge drawback for me is that it has no view. I currently have the most amazing, awe-inspiring view right on the lake. I love it. It makes me draw my breath when I come home and it's quite romantic looking out from any room in the condo but the rest of the place is blah.

The new place would have better room for my child. It also has a few more benefits, but I would have no privacy from neighbors. Windows would have to be drawn at all times. And even if open, I'd get a view of the exact page number of the book my neighbor is reading. Too close for comfort.

The price difference is not much. I'm just not sure I can give up the view for the extra room and overall luxurious finishings and the few other benefits of the new place.

I asked if I should move.




I've got Saturn Rx in 1st. Great. May as well just stop right here some would say. I'm also Venus in exaltation in Capricorn in 3rd. Heading twd Pluto (?) and just past NN. Ok, now we're talking. I'm also Moon in Sag, conj. Jupiter in 6th H. Nice.

Mars is combust Sun and Mars is the new place. ??? What the heck is that all about? UPDATE: Now I know this means hidden problems in the 4th h of foundation. So, there were things I couldn't see before moving in - structurally and functionally. This is in Aquarius, a water sign. There are problems with the water... Amazing how descriptive this is.

I make no aspects twd connecting with Mars. I think the chart on this evidence (if correct) would say no, don't move? UPDATE: True, I did not move. On the day, I changed my mind after seeing the problems come to light.

Help?

[dr. farr]

(Following is not in accord with standard horary delineation and uses whole sign house format)

Magic 8 Ball says no (taking 7th house as signifcator = Mars = a "no" answer)

Saturn in exaltation in your sign = stay where you are at (rx state reflects your own conficted thoughts on the matter)
Your significator Venus is in 4th whole sign house of the home (also an angle) and within orb of the Lucky North Node; Venus also trine Part of Fortune

Looks better where you are at...

[SagiCap]

Originally Posted by dr. farr

(Following is not in accord with standard horary delineation and uses whole sign house format)

Magic 8 Ball says no (taking 7th house as signifcator = Mars = a "no" answer)

Saturn in exaltation in your sign = stay where you are at (rx state reflects your own conficted thoughts on the matter)
Your significator Venus is in 4th whole sign house of the home (also an angle) and within orb of the Lucky North Node; Venus also trine Part of Fortune

Looks better where you are at...

Thanks so much, Dr. Farr.

I really want to understand the "why" of the chart too. I guess I just want the best for my little one and this is close to it, but I think there can be better BUT at a good price in my neighborhood (and on 1 income) it's nearly impossible.

I looked up the Sabian Symbol for 17 asc at Libra and it's "Two Men Placed Under Arrest" ??? Alarming.

Just have to keep plugging away at the chart more I guess. I think you're right.

[dr. farr]

Additionally Moon flows away from both significators (Venus, you, Mars, the move) which is - testimony; taking lord of the 5th as your child, = Saturn which is in the 1st house and thus ultimately disposited by your dispositor Venus (so Venus indications would also apply to your child)

Also, we cannot discount the effect upon your spirit which your current view has, as you have described it in the background information to the question. That has to be important-how your spirit is affected.

Note: I did not find any important stars connected with either the asc or the quesited significator (Mars); converting the chart elements to Tarot the Major Arcana symbol which came up (symbolic essence point = 23Scorpio09) was THE STAR (upright)

[SagiCap]

Originally Posted by dr. farr

Additionally Moon flows away from both significators (Venus, you, Mars, the move) which is - testimony; taking lord of the 5th as your child, = Saturn which is in the 1st house and thus ultimately disposited by your dispositor Venus (so Venus indications would also apply to your child)

Also, we cannot discount the effect upon your spirit which your current view has, as you have described it in the background information to the question. That has to be important-how your spirit is affected.

Note: I did not find any important stars connected with either the asc or the quesited significator (Mars); converting the chart elements to Tarot the Major Arcana symbol which came up (symbolic essence point = 23Scorpio09) was THE STAR (upright)

Thank you. It's interesting you received The Star. I know it's quite a good omen, - is this Star refering to staying in my present place? Am I understanding correctly?

Sorry so many questions.

[dr. farr]

I think the Star means fortune is favorable for you and your daughter whatever you decided to do.
To me the most important thing is what that view does for your spirit: if it really does as much as you say, if it really makes a big difference to you, then you should stay where you are. If it makes you feel good but really doesn't make all that much difference to you (that is, if its effect is not quite what you have made it out to be in the background information) then I think you should seriously consider moving.

[dr. farr]

Your 2 subsequent horaries-about renting out your current condo, and then the one about "go vs stay", really stem from this first horary question: you will notice that the delineations I posted here were for staying where you were, rather than moving; my final personal opinion was for you to do what you were guided to, based on how you felt-my interpretation of the possible meaning of the Tarot Star symbol was incorrect, at least in the short term. However, the astrologicals were-from my perspective-quite clear about staying where you were and not moving into the new location (even the 8 Ball gave a no to the move!)

Your finding of the Sabian symbol for the ascending degree, "2 men placed under arrest", turned out to be pretty accurate: crooks own where you are currently at (that's one of the "2 men") and a very irresponsible (at least), and perhaps quite crooked man (based on what you ran into at the new location), owns the place where you were planning to move (the second of the "2 men placed under arrest") !

[SagiCap]

Originally Posted by dr. farr

Your 2 subsequent horaries-about renting out your current condo, and then the one about "go vs stay", really stem from this first horary question: you will notice that the delineations I posted here were for staying where you were, rather than moving; my final personal opinion was for you to do what you were guided to, based on how you felt-my interpretation of the possible meaning of the Tarot Star symbol was incorrect, at least in the short term. However, the astrologicals were-from my perspective-quite clear about staying where you were and not moving into the new location (even the 8 Ball gave a no to the move!)

Your finding of the Sabian symbol for the ascending degree, "2 men placed under arrest", turned out to be pretty accurate: crooks own where you are currently at (that's one of the "2 men") and a very irresponsible (at least), and perhaps quite crooked man (based on what you ran into at the new location), owns the place where you were planning to move (the second of the "2 men placed under arrest") !

You are very right about all this, Dr. Farr. Bless you. I think the 3 confirmations rule is something I should adhere to in a horary. I sometimes overlook that.

Do you use that in the Ankara tradition?

[dr. farr]

We don't find mention of the "3 confirmations" in the old literature: for this "rule"-which I do follow quite often (although not as often as I SHOULD!)-I must give credit to the great Modernist pioneer, Charles Carter (thanks to my study of his book from the 1940's entitled "Symbolic Directions in Modern Astrology")