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Old 07-16-2010, 03:04 PM
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Will I receive Unemployment Benefits?

One week ago today, I was laid off from my job. Yesterday, I received the initial form explaining the dates & amounts to expect BUT it's no guarantee. I still owe unemployment $16,000 from the last time I was unemployed 4 yrs ago. (in a nutshell, unemployment realized I did not qualify for benefits after 10 months of receiving them. So now I have to pay for their mistake).

I am Merc in Leo in the 11th (hoping)..also Moon in Virgo exactly conj Saturn at 29*. I'm about to make a change? Is this chart even valid since Moon is VOC?

Mars, other's money, is in the first house with me about to conj Saturn...delay? Venus, my earned income & their communications sig. is in my 12th of hidden things...ugh.

I appreciate any feedback....thanks!
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Old 07-17-2010, 04:14 PM
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Re: Will I receive Unemployment Benefits?

Hi Tora
Thanks for responding. Initially, I thought of using the MC as the gov't & the 11th as its finances, too. But I noticed similar threads were using the 7th/8th houses. So I went with that. I received a notice in the mail that the agency will call me next month for questioning & then make a determination. I'll update once I hear more.

Oh & btw, back in 2007, I appealed their decision that I owe for their mistake 3 times. Even went to appeals court & I lost.

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Old 07-17-2010, 04:35 PM
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Re: Will I receive Unemployment Benefits?

I would stick with MC and 11th house for govt and its money
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Old 07-17-2010, 10:54 PM
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Re: Will I receive Unemployment Benefits?

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One week ago today, I was laid off from my job. Yesterday, I received the initial form explaining the dates & amounts to expect BUT it's no guarantee. I still owe unemployment $16,000 from the last time I was unemployed 4 yrs ago. (in a nutshell, unemployment realized I did not qualify for benefits after 10 months of receiving them. So now I have to pay for their mistake).
Doesn't matter whether you made the mistake, they made the mistake or god made the mistake. The bottom line is that it is not your money and never was, and you'll have to pay it back, although you might be able to negotiate a settlement to reduce the amount you owe if you have a decent attorney to represent you.

I got overpaid $4,000+ on my social security disability benefits because of a mistake by social security, and I had to pay it back, so they withheld my check for four months.

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I am Merc in Leo in the 11th (hoping)..also Moon in Virgo exactly conj Saturn at 29*. I'm about to make a change? Is this chart even valid since Moon is VOC?
Mercury is Out of Sect and according to Ptolemy/Lily in his own Term and nothing more, but for Bonatti and Dorotheus, Mercury is Peregrine (wandering about wondering what to do next).

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Mars, other's money, is in the first house with me about to conj Saturn...delay?
Your benefits might be approved, but you won't receive them because they'll be withheld as an offset to what you owe (but that benefits you in the long run).

The Moon, which is in incredibly bad shape despite being in the 1st House, is in an applying opposition to Jupiter which is slow, but offset by the fact that Jupiter is in Hayz. Jupiter is about to go retrograde in about a week.

Although the Moon and Saturn might still be in moiety, the Moon has separated from Saturn because there is more than a difference of 6' of arc (according to Lily). The Moon is mutable and angular and <=1° so we are talking one week's time from the job (Saturn ruling 6th -- which is a job that one has/had NOT a job that one is seeking or doesn't have yet).

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Venus, my earned income & their communications sig. is in my 12th of hidden things...ugh.
And neither Venus nor Mercury make any aspects. That pretty much sums it up.

For the benefit of others, in the US, benefits are 8th House Matters (Financial Obligations/Monies Owed/Taxes), since the individual pays into those accounts as a tax.

A portion of each person's wages are withheld to cover the taxes for social security, medicare, the federal unemployment tax, the state unemployment tax and worker's compensation tax (in case of injury).

These are essentially taxes that are paid as insurance benefits to the employee.
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:17 PM
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UPDATE: Two weeks ago unemployment called & said I am eligible for benefits, but I won't get them. It goes directly to my outstanding debt (when I make my claim every 2 weeks), as Bob pointed out.
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Old 08-27-2010, 11:56 AM
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Re: Will I receive Unemployment Benefits?

I look at venus (as a ruler of 2 house). It's in 12 house. And does nothing to you - mercury and moon. But mars (ruler of 8 house - now your money doesn't belong to you) in 1 house - this is good, but mars also does no aspects to your significators. This only shows, that you have right to get money. But now there are no aspects for acting, for sending money to you.
Moon also is on the border of Virgo, therefore soon something will change in this case.
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Re: Will I receive Unemployment Benefits?

(Following is a test of the experimental Walis Magic 8 Ball astro-divination method and is not standard horary; following uses whole sign house format)

A known outcome question: querent did not receive money from unemployment benefits: what would the Magic 8 Ball have indicated?
-taking (as Mr. Zemco did) the 8th house as quesited = Aries = Mars = a no answer to the question by 8 Ball "rules"
-taking the 11th house as quesited = Cancer = Moon, however Cancer posits the South Node so by 8 Ball rules this also = a no answer to the question.

With either quesited significator the 8 Ball indicated a (correct) no answer to this question.
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