NASA Press Release - Astrobiology

aquarianmoon · #1 12-01-2010, 08:00 AM

Hey Starlovers,

Might be a little bit early for this (or not), but NASA are going to have a press conference on Thursday 2nd December at 2pm EST in Washington.

"NASA will hold a news conference at 11 a.m. PST on Thursday, Dec. 2, to discuss an astrobiology finding that will impact the search for evidence of extraterrestrial life. Astrobiology is the study of the origin, evolution, distribution and future of life in the universe. "

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/new...0/M10-110.html

I thought it would be interesting to post the chart because I know there is some buzz about "UFO disclosure" on the net, but also it could just be that they've found a tree or something less... glamourous.

I note everything above the horizon except for Saturn on the descendant and also a Moon-Neptune square which makes me wonder that there is some kind of public deception going on.

Will watch the press conference and report back, but would be interested to know your thoughts

Solastro · #2 12-01-2010, 11:00 PM

Well, yes it might be interesting perhaps.. although a square does not always mean bad or deception of course.. maybe a challenge in some way..

Neptune/Pisces relates to the infinite of course.. 'the Mystery' etc.. While *the Moon relates to the populace in general.. the public.. While *the Moon in Scorpio, also relates to Survival issues.. ie. Scorpio, life & death.. is also seperating from *Venus in Scorpio.. While both also sextile *the Cap NN(trine Cancer SN!) along with *Mercury & *Pluto in Cap/9th.. the sign of boundaries, the structure of all things.. ie. Saturn/Cap.. 9th house is expanding our horizons etc.. Yes the Nodal Axis closely aspected!!! Cancer is 'the womb,' the root of all life..

While *the Sag Sun/8th house, ie. Sag, expansion, looking outward & upward, Scorpio/8th, life & death themes, also closely sextiles *Saturn in Libra.. Scientists.. ie. Saturn, at a press conference! A gathering.. Libra/7th house. Also Saturn is setting.. & *Jupiter-Uranus in Pisces/12th, are rising.. suggesting what is gaining ascendancy, Jupiter-Neptune/Pisces, & what is receding, Saturn...

While *the Sabian Symbol from Dane Rudhyar ('An Astrological Mandala')for the Ascendant reads, at *16degAri..

NATURE SPIRITS ARE SEEN AT WORK IN THE LIGHT OF SUNSET.. Attunement to the potency of invisible forces of nature.. In the light of personal fulfiment, symbol of Sunset & wisdsom, we may be able to establish a life-giving contact with natural forces.. the process of "becoming like a little child".. REPOTENTIALISATION...

Ok then.....

BobZemco · #3 12-02-2010, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by aquarianmoon

I note everything above the horizon except for Saturn on the descendant and also a Moon-Neptune square which makes me wonder that there is some kind of public deception going on.

Mars the Ascendant Ruler is in the 9th House. No kidding, this is about science. Mars is in a Pitted Degree and Void of Course. Mars is also out-of-Sect.

However, Jupiter the ruler of the 9th House is in the 12th House is in a Pitted Degree and Void of Course, plus two of the Triplicity Rulers are in bad shape, Moon and Venus in Scorpio. That would indicate some kind of deception, or maybe a hoax or mass delusion.

Part of Truth is at 16° Aquarius, Dispositor Saturn is Exalted and Angular, free of any impediments. The 12th is the fourth house from the 9th House, so maybe their announcing the end of something, a program maybe, or maybe the failure of a program. Saturn does rule the Government and Administration.

A Moon/Neptune square is a little ridiculous. 24° difference that's way out of orb even for moieties. Even so, Neptune's Dispositor is in good shape even though Venus isn't, so I don't how Neptune could possibly indicate any kind of deception.

I suppose it has to do with budget cuts. Part of Fortune is in 11th disposited by Jupiter in the 12th which could also be limitations, restrictions, and then the 2nd House Ruler Venus is debilitated. Venus is in the 8th Sign and by Whole Sign Venus would be in the 8th House (the money NASA receives from the government).

aquarianmoon · #4 12-02-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BobZemco

A Moon/Neptune square is a little ridiculous. 24° difference that's way out of orb even for moieties. Even so, Neptune's Dispositor is in good shape even though Venus isn't, so I don't how Neptune could possibly indicate any kind of deception.
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I meant trine of course, forgive me it was late when I posted this. Perhaps you would still consider 6 degrees too wide. A Moon-Neptune trine feels somewhat delusional to me, especially with a Scorprio moon. But perhaps that says more about the collective delusion going on with people guessing what this could be about. I've heard some crazy theories.

Inside Out Orange · #5 12-02-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BobZemco

I suppose it has to do with budget cuts. Part of Fortune is in 11th disposited by Jupiter in the 12th which could also be limitations, restrictions, and then the 2nd House Ruler Venus is debilitated. Venus is in the 8th Sign and by Whole Sign Venus would be in the 8th House (the money NASA receives from the government).

I think Bob's right there. All the government agencies need to justify their money at the moment.

My guess is that they found some fossilised dust that MIGHT be the sort of thing that lifeforms MIGHT need to exist in the universe, or some such tenuous story.

All that said, Cainer was mentioning on his pop astrology page Meanwhile, the planet Uranus, which governs new technology and social innovation has been retrograde since July. It's stationary now. I'm inclined to expect a lot of exciting news from the world of science very soon.

Inside Out Orange · #6 12-02-2010, 07:44 PM

And the correct answer was ...

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The discovery of a strange bacteria that can use arsenic as one of its nutrients widens the scope for finding new forms of life on Earth and possibly beyond. While researchers discovered the unusual bacteria here on Earth, they say it shows that life has possibilities beyond the major elements that have been considered essential.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...#ixzz16zOLqNSp

BobZemco · #7 12-02-2010, 08:09 PM

Alright, the Sun rules Arsenic, and also biology and biologists, while Saturn rules bacteria, bacteriologists and bacteriology.

Note that the Sun governs the 5th House which rules sex, romance, public venues, stock brokerage firms, speculation, ambassadors, embassies and messages.

Within 2° of the 9th House Cusp, we'd read the Sun as being in the 9th, since it is in the 9th Sign from the Ascendant anyway.

Mars is Under Beams with the Sun applying to Combustion and will square Jupiter in the 12th. The Dispositor of the Part of Truth (Saturn) being exalted and angular, it would seem NASA believes this to be true as far as they know, but when the end is known, it will end up being something else. In other words, their initial conclusions are not entirely accurate, even though they sincerely believe them to be.

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Originally Posted by aquarianmoon

I meant trine of course, forgive me it was late when I posted this. Perhaps you would still consider 6 degrees too wide.

No such thing as an "out-of-sign aspect." That's something modern astrologers made up to coerce charts to say what they want them to say.

Neptune is Succedent and Direct. It's the upper octave of Venus and what affects Venus affects Neptune. Venus in Scorpio degrades Neptune, but not to the extent that Neptune is malicious. Neptune's dispositor Saturn is Direct, Occidental, Angular and Exalted and in no way impeded, so Saturn is not a Malefic here and neither is Neptune.

When the Moon reached 26° Libra 12' it separated from its trine without Reception. The Moon has released Neptune and no longer exerts any influence over Neptune, nor does Neptune exert any influence over Moon. Whatever it was (I don't feel like spending an hour trying to delineate it since it probably has no bearing on the matter), it was something that occurred in the past and was not a negative or bad thing.

The Moon is now in Scorpio (Fall), Peregrine and Decreasing in Light, and worse than that it's in the 4th Quarter so when you look at the Moon at night it looks like it's disappearing, sort of like NASA's budget.

I think NASA is being very sincere; there's no deception here, but it does seem to be based on bad science maybe.

Mars is Under Beams and will be Combust, plus in a Pitted Degree. Dispositor Jupiter is Cadent and in a Pitted Degree.

Mercury and Saturn are about to Station. In fact Mercury should be at 1st Station and go retrograde while still in the 9th House (and ruling the 3rd House) and Saturn most definitely will Station in the 7th House.

That makes you wonder if they'll retract their announcement or modify it in some way in the future.

dr. farr · #8 12-03-2010, 03:25 AM

First-to be clear-I agree with Mr. Zemco about out-of-sign aspects: I myself-just like the ancients and just as in Vedic astrology to this day-do not consider them.
However, they are not only from Modernist astrology: as Robert Hand has pointed out, Ibn Ezra (in his "Beginning of Wisdom") was the first to accept out-of-sign aspects (that was in the 12th century AD) Over the following centuries the great majority of astrologers did not accept out-of-sign (but some did and others did so occasionally) The big out-of-sign aspect "break-through" occured over the past century in the development of Modernist astrology (as Mr. Zemco mentioned)