Aries Sun/Libra Moon--oh the contradictions!

[fromtheriver]

Hey all,

I was born with an aries sun and a libra moon.

All the reading I've done seems to paint me as a nature always in conflict with itself, with a tendency towards the arts, daydreaming, inability to concentrate and tendency to dramatize my personal life, all of which is, I'm sad to say, eerily accurate. Most of what I read also seems to suggest that I have a romanticized faith in myself, and should stay away from all things artistic or risk failure as I will never accomplish to the fullest of my abilities unless I am in an extremely structured environment, and essentially defying my own nature.

This is extremely depressing.

Does anyone have any insight on this combination, or a different interpretation? Any famous people, alive or dead, whose lives I could look into? I've tried to look them up but I always come up with nothing.

I was also born with Markab in Mercury (23 degrees Pisces). Worst chart ever. :-(

[Caprising]

Why not post your chart so that we can have a look at it for you, I have Libra sun and Aries moon, so maybe we can swap veiws on how this combo works to our advantage!

[fromtheriver]

I'd be glad to, but unfortunately I am unsure about my birth time, and have gone through a really big relocation (I've heard that affects it?)--so who knows what my rising sign is at this point!

However, here it is pre-relocation, based on the data I have, which is not necessarily accurate.

And Aries moon, Libra sun...sweet. I'd love to hear about it.


Thanks!
:-)

[fromtheriver]

Well. I should probably add that the following is the chart that describes me the best, using feedback from other people. I've actually been wondering what the validity of the effects of relocation are on one's natal chart, so while we're on the subject...what are YOUR thoughts?

[dr. farr]

Pisces on ascendant, thus equal in influence to sun sign Aries and moon sign Libra;
Mercury important influence as rising planet, Mercury and benefic Jupiter in mutual reception, meaning they may be read 'as being in conjunction for delineative purposes; benefic Dragon's Head (North Node) posited in 1st house (by whole sign house system), adding additional positive testimony to the 1st house condition.
Certainly a lot of creative potential, active mind, but possibly lacking in grounding, in bringing things into earthy manifestation (ascendant water, moon air, sun fire-earth is lacking emphasis) Yet Saturn, Neptune, Uranus are all up there, elevated toward the top of the chart, in the 11th house (by whole sign), house of friends and of the good spirit-and all are in earth, ie, they are in Capricorn (which is also Saturn's home)
So the potential for manifesting dreams and creative, artistic drives is definitely present IF the Saturnine qualities of patience, steadfastness, continued directed attention to the task or project at hand, persistence in following a clear cut goal or object, is cultivated. In my opinion, in this nativity, key planets are Mercury (the mind, senses, intelligence, activity), Neptune (higher sensitivity, spirituality and artistic dreams) and Saturn (grounding, earthing, persisting, determination)-use these planets (their energetic qualities) to' their best effect, and this will go a long way in helping you overcome your drawbacks and problems.

[Caprising]

Not having an accurate birthtime does limit the amount of information at hand, have you considered phoning the hospital where you were born in order to aquire the necassary paperwork in order to get your official birth time from hospital records? There is usually a small fee for this service, usually around $15 to $30 depending on what the hospital decides to charge. Relocated charts brings in another problem to solve, differing astrologers have diferent veiws on how the relocation affects (if at all) the natal chart and it's manifesation. I use my relocated chart from the age that I relocated with progressions added on, i keep the natal in my birthtown because thats what i started life with, your chart changes as you mature, this is reflected in a "progressed chart", so this is one of the ways we can overcome seemingly difficult birth placements. I don't have time to go into my Aries moon/libra sun opposition right now, but will get around to it in a day or 2. Cheers Cap.

[Kukka]

This is defenitely an interesting combo.

l looked up the celebrities with it:

http://www.astrotheme.com/celebrites/sun/moon/0/6.htm

Pope BENOIT XVI
Clare Danes
Lara Flynn Boyle
Tommy Hilfiger

I look forward your others' experiences.

[Isaiah C.]

My cousin Josh, who I've known since I was a child. He has Sun Aries, Libra Moon, and Libra ASC. The description you wrote is very similar to my cousin... hopefully through life experience you are smarter than he is, because he is currently living in jail right now. Try to think about every action you make and the consequences. My cousin used to lash out on everyone and everything. He had some troubling times when it came to his anger, and choices in life.

[Caprising]

In another 5 or 6 years (allowing a 1 degree orb) your sun will progress into Taurus, giving you a more settled, down to earth, practical projection of your natal sun in Aries. One way of expressing your sun/moon combo that won't get you into too much trouble would be chasing members of the opposite sex. This is a lot of fun, and Aries "loves the chase", libra moon likes to "connect' with others on an intimate level, and best of all it's legal!

[astrologer50]

Firstly, it's important to rectify your time. Is the 3.30pm a stab in the dark or based on some relevance of fact? have you been told between 3-4pm??

Ascendant physical traits
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25131
Ascendant sign research
http://www.cafeastrology.com/risingsignsascendant.html
http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-ascendant.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/angles.html
http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/zodia_sign.htm
http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-are-rising-sign-traits.shtml
http://www.alwaysastrology.com/rising-signs.html

Solar Arcs
Solar arcs are really simple, especially for beginners, just move the Angles, Asc, Desc, MC, IC 1' for each year of your life onto planets and vice versa. Not just used for rectification either. Under age 12 though these interpretations are directed towards family changes, maybe relocation, job changes, illnesses, additions to family etc. Another example is my Pluto is 28' Leo in 7th house and my Uranus is 3' Leo in same house to subtract these and you get age 25. That year my then husband and I had an almighty explosion (Uranus) and transformation (Pluto) of that marriage that started the demise and ultimate ending thereof....

Further research on solar arcs try these threads.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12024&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12958&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6691&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/rectification.html
http://www.frankstar.com/solararc.htm
http://thezodiac.com/arcs.htm
http://www.donmc.com/Comparing%20Transits%20and%20Solar%20Arcs%20II.htm
http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/solar_arc_directions.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_progression


Rectification of birth time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW0G2S2Ti4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMX9X2C1BQ&NR=1
· Transiting Pluto square, conj opp Asc, Desc, MC, IC
· If under 12’ when it conj an Angle then their age was under age 12 it’s parents adjustments. A death, change within father’s work, a separation, remarriage.
· Adults or teens, 1st job, identity transformation MC.
· Pluto conj Desc = death, health concerns, geographic, significant relationship or break up, but has to be ‘life transforming’
· Also try transiting Neptune, something dissolving, disappearing, confusing etc.
· Timings of transits… is it the 1st hit? More often it’s the middle retrograde hit… but could be the last direct hit also. 1’ =4minutes in time.

So, SA MC conj Jupiter suggests, travel and poss relocation, when did you emigrate exactly??? this could be important.

Make a list of things happened in your childhood espec upto age 12ish. SA IC conj Pluto age 2 suggests poss someone dying, disappearing? To have pluto conj IC/home roots is a major aspect of control with one parent, demanding, obsessive, secretive ,mind games etc.


Pluto Opposition to Midheaven Don't be surprised if you have your share of power struggles with authority figures. This aspect suggests domination and control. You can rise to a position of important influence over the lives of others. All efforts to climb to the top should be kept completely honest and aboveboard.
Consider some of the following career potentials: archaeology, espionage, psychiatry, mortuary science, the secret service, banking, or the medical profession--especially surgery.
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectspluto.htm

If I was to ask you to think of a piece of cake and divided that cake into 12 pieces (12 houses) where do you think would be your major focus and attention. Study the house meanings closely....

house meanings
http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/houses.php
http://www.astrologyzine.com/what-is-a-house-in-astrology.shtml
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/dkfoundation/BookKarma&NewDirections.htm
http://www.gotohoroscope.com/houses-in-chart.html
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/temples/h1.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_(astrology)
http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_house2_e.htm
http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houses.htm

[hazelrah]

OH JOY!! I was going to ask someone about rectification today. Thanks astrologer50!

[92clla]

Originally Posted by fromtheriver

Hey all,

I was born with an aries sun and a libra moon.

All the reading I've done seems to paint me as a nature always in conflict with itself, with a tendency towards the arts, daydreaming, inability to concentrate and tendency to dramatize my personal life, all of which is, I'm sad to say, eerily accurate. Most of what I read also seems to suggest that I have a romanticized faith in myself, and should stay away from all things artistic or risk failure as I will never accomplish to the fullest of my abilities unless I am in an extremely structured environment, and essentially defying my own nature.

This is extremely depressing.

Does anyone have any insight on this combination, or a different interpretation? Any famous people, alive or dead, whose lives I could look into? I've tried to look them up but I always come up with nothing.

I was also born with Markab in Mercury (23 degrees Pisces). Worst chart ever. :-(

Oh, I am devastated.
Recently I've been obsessed with astrology. For all those things you have written, I tried to find the base in the natal chart. And then one search in Aries sun-Libra moon and there it is.
I have so much inner battles. So much dependent, but also careless would make me sometimes act with lack of consideration to others and then reanalyzing the situation over and over, thinking of the opposite side's opinion.
And my lack of concentration. It's killing.
And till now, I was thinking art may be one thing.. - but what I am reading now? Actually, don't understand that part, and it's also killing me..

How are you nowadays? I know it's kind of late reply, but I was so amazed reading all of this.
And now thinking if I should write this or that.. Changing mind all, just all all the time...