is the break-up for good, and what will happen? will we get problems concerning legal

[Sofia8]

I am going through maybe the toughest period of my life right now, my boyfriend for 3 years, left me without a warning, we also had a small firm that we stopped working with , on my name , registered in his country not mine , i dont have acces to, dont know what s going on, now i am very concearned
Will we get problems concearning legal matters ? will he come back ?
I am going through major setbacks in my life right now..
Without a job i left and returned to my hometown
Will i find a job and a new place to live and set my life back on track fast ?
What should i do?

I have attached my chart and his

[poster gave no astrological interpretation so moved to Greenhorns Lounge - Moderator]

[Sofia8]

hello
can anyone pls help me with this ?

[katydid]

Originally Posted by Sofia8

I am going through maybe the toughest period of my life right now, my boyfriend for 3 years, left me without a warning, we also had a small firm that we stopped working with , on my name , registered in his country not mine , i dont have acces to, dont know what s going on, now i am very concearned
Will we get problems concearning legal matters ? will he come back ?
I am going through major setbacks in my life right now..
Without a job i left and returned to my hometown
Will i find a job and a new place to live and set my life back on track fast ?
What should i do?

I have attached my chart (pdf format) and his

[poster gave no astrological interpretation so moved to Greenhorns Lounge - Moderator]

THE FOLLOWING IS REALLY YOUR EX BOYFRIENDS CHART---I thought it was yours, but perhaps it will be helpful to see what he was going through as well. I will look at yours next.;

You have a very difficult transit right now of Uranus conjunct natal Saturn. This Uranus transit has been going over your Venus, Chiron and Saturn conjunction in your 7th house of relationships. Saturn rules your 5th house of love and creative pursuits.
Venus rules your 9th house of foreign travel and 2nd house of income .So all of these are lumped together under this Uranus transit in Pisces. Uranus brings sudden change, revolutions, transformation and shocking circumstances which clear the way for you to find your real authentic self. In the end, you will feel transformed and powerful and ready to take on the world. But it is a difficult process because many of the changes are completely beyond your control.
This is kind of a double whammy because you have transiting Saturn crossing your Uranus, right after Uranus crosses your Saturn. So it is a complete letting go of the past, and of what you thought you knew. You may have to find a new path and a new way of being, but it will be yours, not any one else's.

Look up as much as you can about Saturn and Uranus. In your chart they are in a wide opposition. But now in the sky, they are flipped, and saturn is on your Uranus, and uranus is on your saturn. It is like an earthquake taking place and shaking you loose of any former structures which you relied upon.
It is frightening, but also invigorating, because it gets you to the roots of your deep, inner core.

[astrologer50]

The pdf file is just natal positions and not a chart for us to look at, which does make things a little difficult as we are all visual here....

Astrology can explain why certain things are happening to us but it is not 100%. Maybe you would be better asking a horary question in their GLounge.

This forum (in my opinion) is more of a discussion and learning site, and the main objective is to encourage, interact and explain astrologically why something is happening in your life, rather than just ‘drop the answer in your lap’ and not necessarily to provide professional readings and forecast future events.

Astrological data are highly sensitive. Therefore ask you to take the protection of your personal data of third persons very seriously. If you wish to post your chart orthe chart of a person known to you, you must have their permission to do so or better still anonymize the name and all birth/personal data. If this is not the case, please refrain from posting this chart.

Now looking at the male chart T Saturn has just hit his Uranus Asc and then Pluto, all of which are very challenging transits.
www.astro.com has Free six month transit forecaster

His natal venus is in opposition to Uranus and Pluto. Uranus is the divorce planet and the opposition is typical of someone wanting a lot of freedom within relationships. Venus opp Pluto is controlling, demanding, obsessive, jealous. Further reading try here.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/v...toaspects.html

It would have been helpful for a synastry bi wheel or Astro.com does have an option composite + natal midpoint method (2) which I find helpful.

SATURN CONJUNCT URANUS
This is an extremely powerful transit, for it represents powerful internal forces for change colliding with powerful resistance from the external world. It is a time of tension and sudden release. You will be likely to take sudden actions that the people around you have not anticipated. These actions are the products of gradually building tension within you.

You are trying to escape the routine, dull and ordinary aspects of your life. You try to find new things that will make your life more exciting and stimulating. But with every effort of this kind, circumstances, duties and obligations seem to hold you back and keep you stuck in an oppressive situation. Uranus is the planet of rebellion, especially if its action is blocked for a long period of time, as it is now.

On the other hand, it may be possible to create a balance between the force of Saturn and the force of Uranus. If so, you will be able to sustain a great deal of tension over a long period of time and accomplish a great many changes in a highly structured way. Tasks of considerable difficulty are often accomplished under this transit, and people make Herculean efforts that would otherwise be impossible for them. Serious study and long‑range projects requiring great concentration and effort can be ­undertaken.

Even though this manifestation of the energy of Saturn on Uranus may seem more productive it really depends upon your situation. Very, often a sudden break with what feels like an oppressive situation will clear the air and allow you to make a new and better beginning. But the patient, hard‑working manifestation of this transit`s energy may create severe mental and physical tensions, even to the point of physical illness. You have to decide what you can handle realistically and determine for yourself the proper course of action.

One thing is clear. At this time in your life you must make changes at the most fundamental levels. If you do not in ­approximately fourteen years the consequences of not making these changes will become more obvious, and you will be confronted with the same issues again under more difficult circumstances. That time will be signified by the transit of Saturn opposition Uranus.

SATURN CONJUNCT PLUTO
During this transit you may have fewer resources available for doing what you want, and you may have to focus the available resources on more restricted and concentrated objectives. Pluto is the power of transformation, while Saturn narrows and focuses. The effects of the combination are several. First, structure in your life will change significantly, but not suddenly or without warning. The changes brought about by Pluto are inherent in what is being changed, if you look carefully. It is rather like an inevitable conclusion of a situation. During this transit some things will come to an end or an old order of life will cease. On a metaphysical level, this transit means that factors are now being incorporated into the structure of your life and will later bring about evolution and growth. This process involves getting rid of old structures. What happens now will have great consequences in fourteen years.

On a material level, this transit often causes financial problems or other kinds of shortages. Sometimes government or other ­officials will impose heavy burdens that greatly restrict your freedom of movement. It is also possible that some incident or accident may affect your health and thereby restrict your freedom of movement.

All of these effects confine your energies so that later they can be focused upon matters that will require your full attention. If your energy is spread too thin, later crises will be much more difficult to bear. Then you will have to go through a most unpleasant house‑cleaning of everything in your life that interferes with your natural pattern of evolution.

One danger of this transit is that Pluto can signify tremendous evolutionary energies, which Saturn restricts. This can lead to an apparent suppression of the Pluto force. When the suppressed force erupts, it may be dangerous, explosive and quite violent. As you are more restricted by circumstances and the need to use your resources conservatively, do not simply hold in your energies. Build new structures to correct the problems you face now, and concentrate all your energy on bringing about necessary evolution in your life. Saturn can give form to Pluto as well as repress it, and then it is much more fruitful.

Both from the Transit book of Robert Hand and also below

Now IF your time of birth is correct at 5'50" Capricorn, Transiting Pluto will be going over your Asc, but I suspect your Asc to be earlier cos this is just typical of Pluto. A "Major" life changing transformation, everything old being discarded and new life beginning.

Pluto in the First House
At this time you will gradually reshape many aspects of your personality, and you will have the opportunity to get in touch with the forces that have shaped you and made you what you are. Getting in touch with yourself in this matter is especially helpful because it gives you greater control over the unconscious drives that in the past have surfaced in subconsciously directed urges, compulsions and irrational impulses. You will also gain greater control over the ways in which you project your ­personality to others, which will make your relationships more rewarding.

However, en route to this desirable goal of self‑improvement you will have to meet certain challenges in order to make anything good come out of this period.

First, you will find energies rising within you that want to control everything and everyone around, which could make ­relationships with others exceedingly difficult, if you are not careful. Now you have the chance to be either a positive or a ­negative force if you don’t make the effort to understand ­yourself. You will be the vehicle for blind and irrational ego forces, the result of infantile and primitive urges that you haven’t dealt with as an adult. These forces are not directed toward what is best for you. But if you understand yourself well, you will be able to bring about a complete rebirth of energy and effectiveness in your life.

Fortunately, under the influence of this transit you will be more and more driven to seek out the inner dimensions of life. You will be attracted to the mysterious and hidden aspects of life, which will make you very interested in your own and other people’s inner workings. This same interest may lead into the study of astrology, yoga and other occult or spiritual doctrines whose purpose is the total regeneration of the self.

As Pluto transits your houses, it signifies the areas of your life that are due for radical transformation. In the area ruled by the transited house, structure in your life has built up to the point that it is no longer possible to patch up whatever is wrong. It is time for a full‑scale reconstruction, preceded if necessary by destruction of the old change‑resistant patterns.

It is extremely important that you recognise the inevitability of Plutonian change, which is built into the very structure of things and cannot be prevented. And you should not try to prevent it, because it is a necessary stage in your evolution. All that you will do is force the energies to build up until they are explosive. Then the inevitable changes come about ­disastrously.

You also have a Virgo Moon at 26' which may be a little earlier, which means T Saturn will conj your Moon end September/Oct or earlier if your TOB is out. This means you could well be short of money, emotionally withdrawn and possibly a little depressed, cos it's your 8th house of joint shared finances.

Now, the good news is that T Jupiter is in Aquarius just gone over your Mercury and into your 2nd house of 'how you earn your money' which should help.

You have calculated your chart using the default on astro.com of placidus and I use Equal House system and am a modern astrologer. Lots of people that come into Astrology get their free charts calculated at www.astro.com and the default ‘house system’ used is Placidus and think that’s just the norm and all that there is……..BUT that is just the tip of the iceberg. You can change the default on astro.com in Extended Chart selection to Equal house and a few more.

Hope this helps, but if not you may like to ask a horary question in their GLounge....

[Sofia8]

Thank you both very much for your replyes

Astrologer50 , regarding what you said :

"Now IF your time of birth is correct at 5'50" Capricorn, Transiting Pluto will be going over your Asc, but I suspect your Asc to be earlier cos this is just typical of Pluto. A "Major" life changing transformation, everything old being discarded and new life beginning."

Why do you suspect my ASC to be earlyer ?

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by Sofia8

Thank you both very much for your replyes

Astrologer50 , regarding what you said :

"Now IF your time of birth is correct at 5'50" Capricorn, Transiting Pluto will be going over your Asc, but I suspect your Asc to be earlier cos this is just typical of Pluto. A "Major" life changing transformation, everything old being discarded and new life beginning."

Why do you suspect my ASC to be earlyer ?

http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/may2009gmt.shtml

As you will see Transiting Pluto has not yet reached 5' Cappi....

[cassanra]

If it is your birth time this is just the hiccup before the big explosion (pluto is a little bit volcanic)
Just kidding ..sort of....you have some planets really close to angles so you could do a solar arc check ...
I have similar degrees at the MC and I think you want to get really close on outer planets before things are felt but you may want to do a little check for yourself and timing..(look at past events, tiiming of transits and solar arcs to angles) . It seems as if the planet is the most potent a few degrees from exact then loses strength after it passes the angle so you are a little off from that time. I think Pluto got to 3 '15 or there abouts before it went retrograde but all these events could be the hiccup as Pluto is often a deep psychological transformation which you might be facing this coming year as pluto turns direct and really goes over your ascendant.
A solar return for this year would be good too.
But I hear you...are you most worried about the guy or your monetary situation? That is the crux of the horary...getting the right question.

[katydid]

Originally Posted by Sofia8

I am going through maybe the toughest period of my life right now, my boyfriend for 3 years, left me without a warning, we also had a small firm that we stopped working with , on my name , registered in his country not mine , i dont have acces to, dont know what s going on, now i am very concearned
Will we get problems concearning legal matters ? will he come back ?
I am going through major setbacks in my life right now..
Without a job i left and returned to my hometown
Will i find a job and a new place to live and set my life back on track fast ?
What should i do?

I have attached my chart and his

[poster gave no astrological interpretation so moved to Greenhorns Lounge - Moderator]

Okay. Part 2.

In my first post I mistakenly thought your boyfriends chart was yours. I left it up because I hope it shows you that he was under an incredible amount of stress from his Uranus/ Saturn, and Saturn/Uranus double whammy. It was nothing personal against you, it was just a difficult time for him to try and stay in the status quo. Things beyond his control took over and forced him to
make drastic changes.

So now on to your chart. You are still very young. I am sure this whole crisis has been devastating but it has taught you some important lessons.
Your natal chart has Neptune rising in Capricorn. You may have allowed others to have too much control over your life circumstances in the past, as a result of being too trusting and sympathetic towards others. Neptune on the asc, and square to Mars, may allow you to give over too much of your own personal power to others , to the detriment of your self. The Mars in the 4th may indicate that you were eager to leave your home because of some uncomfortable , childhood tensions, and to grow up and be self reliant.
Unfortunately, your first attempt was premature because you may have transferred your power to the wrong person.

You have Jupiter in your second, in Pisces. That indicates money and fortune, from foreign countries or exchanges is quite possible.However
Tr Uranus is going over your Jupiter, and that should explain why it has suddenly been cut off for now. Luckily, the Jupiter is a natal placement, and will always be there. The Uranus upset is just a transitory phase, and will work itself out eventually. In the mean time, you get the wonderful chance to return to your hometown, and work on your Mars/Neptune square.
This is important work now because transiting Pluto is on the way to your Neptune, and that can heal the problems and misunderstandings once and for all. The Neptune gets pulled in opposite directions by its 2 squares.
One is from Mars and one is from the Moon, and they are on the Mc and IC axis. It seems to stem from childhood issues concerning the battle of the sexes. You may have felt like you were stuck in between others battling in your home, and you are tired of being put in the middle of it.

Good news is coming when Jupiter finishes it's trek through your 2nd house. It will eventually be your Jupiter return, and that will help you get back on your feet financially.

[Sofia8]

Hello Cassandra,
Thank you for your relply
Well i know my birth time is somewhere after 6-30 but before 7 in the morning, but i dont know the exact time to the minute...

I'm concearned just about everything right now....
Also about the guy , but most of all about myself, and what i'm supposed to be doing in life...i'm trying to find my meaning
So far he was the central point in my life and i realise now i had to concentrate more on myself, did really just stagnate in many ways
I chose a study that i didnt like , also i didnt really get so much involved in it, i graduated and am following a master's degree that has nothing to do with it so it wont be really relevant...both choices i made without a clear objective or real guidance...and i'm really choacking cause i dont know what to do know...
What i have to do right now is get fast another job,preferably in the area of my study, which i dont find right now (nor in other areas for that matter...)
What i'd like to do(or at least, i think) is start from zero with another study that i wanted to do in the first place , but dont think i have a way to do that right now

So , my question would be : should i try to find a way with what i did so far, take a new path..or try to combine both?...

Other question would be the one i started off with , weather or not this break up is for good...

[katydid]

What i'd like to do(or at least, i think) is start from zero with another study that i wanted to do in the first place , but dont think i have a way to do that right now

So , my question would be : should i try to find a way with what i did so far, take a new path..or try to combine both?...

Other question would be the one i started off with , weather or not this break up is for good...
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A few questions for you first, that might help us guide you better.

Why did you abandon what you were most interested in, to study something different ?

What, if anything, do the 2 subjects of study have in common? Is it possible to combine them or not? realistically?


What does your ex bf say about your situation now? What is going on with him?

Thanks.

[Sofia8]

hello katydid ,
and thank you for answering me so fast

well, i didnt abandon what i wanted to do, i didnt even start it
i wanted to do psychology, or medicine to later specialise in psychiatry (that's how it goes in my country) , but instead i did sociology because thats where i got admitted with a scholarship....
after 1st year i wanted to quitt and go for pshychology but my parents advised me not to, so i didnt
now i'm doing a master's degree in business management smth.. that i want to quitt

my ex is just another factor of stress for me right now, he is going through some very bad times also...it's such a long and complicated story that i dont know how to tell it without seeming really ..off-balanced, to put in gently
he is not reliable at this point and i dont know weather or not he can even think or see things clearly or function psychologycally, i say this because for the past weeks he has been telling me one day we should each see our separate ways, and the next of after a few hours act like nothing 's happened and say completely the opposite , make plans for us etc...then it starts all over again
i've been trying to copw with the fact that it's over , but he does not let me have closure
he left the country, things got really bad in his life and after being there for 2 weeks sent me a mail that we should go our separate ways..
i havent seen him in about 2 months
he does not know/care what i'm going throughprobably isnt able to right now , he is too wrapped up in his own issues and concearns

[Sofia8]

About my chart,
the thing is that, if my date of birth is 5-10 minutes later , then Neptune in 12 house...
Also, Mars is in the 3rd house

[katydid]

Originally Posted by Sofia8

About my chart,
the thing is that, if my date of birth is 5-10 minutes later , then Neptune in 12 house...
Also, Mars is in the 3rd house

True. And that would make more sense in terms of you having problems choosing your major focus in school, as 3rd and 12th indicate such difficulties.

[Sofia8]

Well, what i'm saying is that i dont know if neptune is in 1st or 12th house....as i dont know the time of birth exactly to the minute

[katydid]

Originally Posted by Sofia8

Well, what i'm saying is that i dont know if neptune is in 1st or 12th house....as i dont know the time of birth exactly to the minute

I understand. And I was agreeing that perhaps you do have them in the 12th and 3rd, because that would fit well with the main theme of your problems at this time.

[astrologer50]

Originally Posted by Sofia8

Well, what i'm saying is that i dont know if neptune is in 1st or 12th house....as i dont know the time of birth exactly to the minute

Because you don't know your exact time of birth that is why I suggested:
Now IF your time of birth is correct at 5'50" Capricorn, Transiting Pluto will be going over your Asc, but I suspect your Asc to be earlier cos this is just typical of Pluto. A "Major" life changing transformation, everything old being discarded and new life beginning.

Now Age 5ish SA MC conj Pluto should have been something major in family, poss a death, some disappearing, relocation???

Age 26 SA mars conj IC could well have been losts energy arguements in home, relocation perhaps
Age 24 SA Asc conjSun, could have been as time where you 'shined' and your ego came forward, was more assertive, procative, self centred
Age 10 SA Uranus from 12th conj Asc some disruptions, upheavals, surprises, relocations with family.

You need to look back research and study the age when things happen to rectify your time of birth....
Solar Arcs
Solar arcs are really simple, especially for beginners, just move the Angles, Asc, Desc, MC, IC 1' for each year of your life onto planets and vice versa. Not just used for rectification either. Under age 12 though these interpretations are directed towards family changes, maybe relocation, job changes, illnesses, additions to family etc. Another example is my Pluto is 28' Leo in 7th house and my Uranus is 3' Leo in same house to subtract these and you get age 25. That year my then husband and I had an almight explosion (Uranus) and transformation (Pluto) of that marriage that started the demise and ultimate ending thereof....

Further research on solar arcs try these threads.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12024&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12958&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6691&highlight=solar+arcs

Rectification of birth time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW0G2S2Ti4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMX9X2C1BQ&NR=1
· Transiting Pluto square, conj opp Asc, Desc, MC, IC
· If under 12’ when it conj an Angle then their age was under age 12 it’s parents adjustments. A death, change within father’s work, a separation, remarriage.
· Adults or teens, 1st job, identity transformation MC.
· Pluto conj Desc = death, health concerns, geographic, significant relationship or break up, but has to be ‘life transforming’
· Also try transiting Neptune, something dissolving, disappearing, confusing etc.
· Timings of transits… is it the 1st hit? More often it’s the middle retrograde hit… but could be the last direct hit also. 1’ =4minutes in time.

[Sofia8]

Originally Posted by astrologer50

Because you don't know your exact time of birth that is why I suggested:
Now IF your time of birth is correct at 5'50" Capricorn, Transiting Pluto will be going over your Asc, but I suspect your Asc to be earlier cos this is just typical of Pluto. A "Major" life changing transformation, everything old being discarded and new life beginning.

Now Age 5ish SA MC conj Pluto should have been something major in family, poss a death, some disappearing, relocation???

Age 26 SA mars conj IC could well have been losts energy arguements in home, relocation perhaps
Age 24 SA Asc conjSun, could have been as time where you 'shined' and your ego came forward, was more assertive, procative, self centred
Age 10 SA Uranus from 12th conj Asc some disruptions, upheavals, surprises, relocations with family.

You need to look back research and study the age when things happen to rectify your time of birth....
Solar Arcs
Solar arcs are really simple, especially for beginners, just move the Angles, Asc, Desc, MC, IC 1' for each year of your life onto planets and vice versa. Not just used for rectification either. Under age 12 though these interpretations are directed towards family changes, maybe relocation, job changes, illnesses, additions to family etc. Another example is my Pluto is 28' Leo in 7th house and my Uranus is 3' Leo in same house to subtract these and you get age 25. That year my then husband and I had an almight explosion (Uranus) and transformation (Pluto) of that marriage that started the demise and ultimate ending thereof....

Further research on solar arcs try these threads.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12024&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12958&highlight=solar+arcs
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6691&highlight=solar+arcs

Rectification of birth time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW0G2S2Ti4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMX9X2C1BQ&NR=1
· Transiting Pluto square, conj opp Asc, Desc, MC, IC
· If under 12’ when it conj an Angle then their age was under age 12 it’s parents adjustments. A death, change within father’s work, a separation, remarriage.
· Adults or teens, 1st job, identity transformation MC.
· Pluto conj Desc = death, health concerns, geographic, significant relationship or break up, but has to be ‘life transforming’
· Also try transiting Neptune, something dissolving, disappearing, confusing etc.
· Timings of transits… is it the 1st hit? More often it’s the middle retrograde hit… but could be the last direct hit also. 1’ =4minutes in time.

Hello Astrologer50 and thank you very much for replying,

About what you said, that age 5ish should have been something major in the family, my grandmother died around that time (around when i was 7 i guess), other than that no relocation , neither then or by the age of 10.About the rest i couldnt say,as i havent reached that ages yet .

Thank you for the info and the links!
I will try to do that, hope i'll be able to figure it out