Chiron Interpretation

[Shining Ray]

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[utopia]

hi Shinig Ray,

hope this helps;

http://www.cafeastrology.com/chiron.html


P.S. I used to love your fairy very much, however this is a funny kitty

[Arian Maverick]

Thanks for the link Utopia I found it very helpful. My Chiron in the 9th was interesting to read. It said I could push my child into higher education because I felt I missed out. My child does have Mars in the 9th house trine the Moon (his mummy). So maybe it is a gentle pushing into higher learning.

I'm almost surprised that I don't have Chiron in the ninth house because I have major issues with so-called "higher education" and everything it entails, yet Chiron opposes my Midheaven, which may indicate that the root of this emotional wound is with authority.

Especially if you believe your child is an Indigo or a Crystal, please tread carefully here. I am hoping by the time he graduates high school, the system will be very different...

Arian Maverick

[Lapis]

First of all Shining Ray, I have to tell you how much I love your avatar! It makes me smile every time I see it. Here's a quote from B.H.Clow about this one.

"Chiron in the Ninth House -

"Chiron's presence in the ninth house signifies the crisis of connecting with the higher self in this incarnation. The higher self is the wisdom energy that is the integrating spiritual force of each lifetime. Some call it soul. Each individual lifetime is a journey of ensoulment, of activating, embodying, and radiating out of the higher self. These natives are naturally interested in philosophy and spirituality. Often they also teach these values. They understand the natural law intuitively, and they possess an unusual ability to find ways to express essential universal values. They nervously search for meaning; they tend to feel driven to know ultimate truths and convey them to others. They love to travel and experience the energy of temples and spiritual centers on the planet. But have they connected with the higher self and learned to embody the higher self in everyday life?

Chiron is pragmatism, the how-to principle in the chart, and because Chiron is experiential, careful probing will reveal what is going on with Chirotic energy in the ninth. Like the third house natives, ninth house natives appear to be the adept. They naturally embody spirituality, wisdom about the natural law, but their crisis is always over resonation with the higher self. The astrologer who can help them look at their level of connection with the higher self has the opportunity to guide them with their most closely held secret - that they actually are not in touch with the higher self themselves. This is the adept who teaches everyone else to know the soul, who longs intensely for ensoulment. Meditation connecting the higher self and work with body healers who can help bring in the God force is highly recommended. The Sabian symbol for the ascendant is a reading of the higher self, since we have the same ascendant degree in each incarnation. Special work counseling your clients with Chiron in the ninth to resonate with the ascendant energy will help them find the higher self....."

That was from Barbara Hand Clow's Chiron - Rainbow Bridge between the Inner and Outer Planets. I hope it resonated with you. Being in Taurus I'd suspect that being consciously aware of 'Goddess' energy will also quickly connect you with your higher self far more than those old traditional 9th house sort of belief systems and philosophys etc.

[Sag Moon]

Chiron is a connection to a higher existance outside ourselves also.

When I had an external experience whereas I knew that we our not just here ,but connected to a higher plane of existance Chiron was conjunct my Mercury.

It connects us to another realm that we know that we are not just here alone.That there is something much bigger than this earthly plane.

It shall take time for it to reach your Mercury ,but I'll bet when it happens you'll realise what I am talking about.

I have mine in the 9th trine my ascendant in Pisces so I imagine you'll feel a certain revelation as to what chiron is all about.

I have read also that we do not feel the planets that we have until Chiron makes a passing over them. I really cannot vouch for that one,but the longer and older we get the more intune we get to our make up.

[New Moon Libra]

I just finished reading Chiron: Healing Body and Soul (Martin Lass, 2005) and popped over here to find this thread. Serendipity.

I've only recently begun to study chiron. I've been skeptical of interpreting only one of the centaurs as prominant. Also, after perusing the Magi Society, who seem at first glance to be on to something, I came to the same realization Robert Hand did: they make chiron the planet of Everything. Even the interpretations I've read online offer little to distinguish chiron's placement from any other. I mean, any planet in the 9th house will raise questions of the higher mind, education, spirituality, etc., but what makes chiron here different, say, than the moon here? Well, Lass's book did just that.

Lass's book is set up much like Steven Forrest's The Book of Pluto, in that it also points out the wounded place in the chart and the healing path (the gift in the wound). He analyzes chiron's influence using some zodiac polar paradigms, like virgo/pisces--emphasizing that synthesis is the key to healing (which is when we can become co-creators), proceeding from the wounded Many (virgo) back to the healed One (pisces), whereas with pluto it is transformation and letting go.

I guess some astrologers want to assign rulership of chiron to sagittarius, but Lass argues that sagittarius is the culmination of the journey to healing--the pinnacle of Truth, whereas chiron is about the wounding journey. Lass gives less analysis than the author quoted above, but he does say a 9th house chiron shows a distrust of your own inner wisdom, so you may seek outer wisdom from teachers of all kinds. This is a reflection of the inner wisdom we need to love, the universe within. He also describes it as a disconnection from our higher self.

There's lots more in this book, including chiron cycle, mostly compared alongside uranus, and information about chiron's orbit, which I learned is quite eccentric. It spends a great deal of time in aries and very little in libra. Not sure about the other signs.

I have chiron in my ninth in pisces. It makes aspects to every planet and some asteroids, but not venus and saturn. It parallels mercury but aspects to sun, moon, mars, jupiter, neptune, uranus, pluto and ceres are parts of a configuration: two golden yods, a yod, two triangles, and an opposition. These aspects point out an awareness of wounds and ability to heal and heal others. The jury's out on that, but it's all new to me. If any of you have more info, please post...

[New Moon Libra]

I just finished reading Chiron: Healing Body and Soul (Martin Lass, 2005) and popped over here to find this thread. Serendipity.

I've only recently begun to study chiron. I've been skeptical of interpreting only one of the centaurs as prominant. Also, after perusing the Magi Society, who seem at first glance to be on to something, I came to the same realization Robert Hand did: they make chiron the planet of Everything. Even the interpretations I've read online offer little to distinguish chiron's placement from any other. I mean, any planet in the 9th house will raise questions of the higher mind, education, spirituality, etc., but what makes chiron here different, say, than the moon here? Well, Lass's book did just that.

Lass's book is set up much like Steven Forrest's The Book of Pluto, in that it also points out the wounded place in the chart and the healing path (the gift in the wound). He analyzes chiron's influence using some zodiac polar paradigms, like virgo/pisces--emphasizing that synthesis is the key to healing (which is when we can become co-creators), proceeding from the wounded Many (virgo) back to the healed One (pisces), whereas with pluto it is transformation and letting go.

I guess some astrologers want to assign rulership of chiron to sagittarius, but Lass argues that sagittarius is the culmination of the journey to healing--the pinnacle of Truth, whereas chiron is about the wounding journey. Lass gives less analysis than the author quoted above, but he does say a 9th house chiron shows a distrust of your own inner wisdom, so you may seek outer wisdom from teachers of all kinds. This is a reflection of the inner wisdom we need to love, the universe within. He also describes it as a disconnection from our higher self.

There's lots more in this book, including chiron cycle, mostly compared alongside uranus, and information about chiron's orbit, which I learned is quite eccentric. It spends a great deal of time in aries and very little in libra. Not sure about the other signs.

I have chiron in my ninth in pisces. It makes aspects to every planet and some asteroids, but not venus and saturn. It parallels mercury but aspects to sun, moon, mars, jupiter, neptune, uranus, pluto and ceres are parts of a configuration: a golden yod, a yod, two triangles. These aspects point out an awareness of wounds and ability to heal and heal others. The jury's out on that, but it's all new to me. If any of you have more info, please post...

[Frisiangal]

Taurus is all about values and worth....physical as well as psychological. The 9th house is about 'riches and benefits'...physical and spiritual.

There could be a part of you that gets metaphorically sick and tired of Virgo scrimping and saving and Pisces weakness in self sacrifice in order to make ends meet, even though you do it ....or allow it to happen... quite willingly. You could hope for better days and times when there is 'more' than just sufficient to get by, which may not happen as much as you try. As you see other people (above horizon) getting things (without much effort?), you might wonder why such doesn't come your way. Jupiter can represent the social services with whom you come in contact or social injustices you undergo. On a physical level that could provide a reason for a hurtful Chiron, especially if all your personal efforts to better your life also go unrewarded in the form of a compliment, a pat on the shoulder, a small bunch of flowers, etc., that Taurus needs to feel appreciated and all it is doing is of value and worth while.

Chiron lies between Saturn and Uranus. In another thread you have already introduced comments regarding the meaning of Saturn in Virgo. A physical planet in a physical sign. There is a part of you that is hanging on to what you've got for dear life. Yet Uranus is in Scorpio, as if another part of you is also struggling or rebelling to be liberated from a deep emotional need (and possessions as well) that holds you back from moving forward. If Saturn is the old way and Uranus the reorganised way, it's Chiron that has to pave the way between them. With the square from Jupiter pulling Chiron along with it, you know how to develop yourself but are not as sure of how to go about it. I don't believe you are afraid of failure rather than what it will cost you.
If you place all your trust in other people, and possibly for them providing for you, you lower any value and worth you place upon yourself. By gaining self confidence and trusting in your own abilities, your self worth and the value you place upon yourself will increase. Depending upon whether you are prepared to pay the price, Chiron will then cease giving reason for hurting.

F.