Neecha Venus all life long?

[Arianruler]

Hi guys!

I am just curious about one thing - you know how venus is debilitated in virgo, right?

so if that venus is in 1st house along with Mercury (its dispositor) creating Neecha Bhang Raj Yoga, would venus still be considered neecha all life long, thus affecting things ruled by it? for eg.. love affair, married life etc....

[dr. farr]

Other factors COULD cancel that yoga, it is important to remember that all yogas COULD be canceled by other factors in a given chart. Further, even IF there are no cancellation factors, or aristha influences, the situation still could be modified by the application of appropriate astrological remedial measures.

[Shanti]

Also a neecha planet with cancellation, as in this case can show an initial problem that later turns out getting better as lifes goes on.

[Arianruler]

Originally Posted by Shanti

Also a neecha planet with cancellation, as in this case can show an initial problem that later turns out getting better as lifes goes on.

Oh aye? so since venus is karaka for love/marriage, if you are suffering a lot in those areas now, does that mean you can still remain hopeful that it will eventually work out and be alright in the future?

So would that planet still be considered as "neecha" though? even if it is in virgo, getting neecha bhanga and also having shadbala of greater than 1? (3rd highest shadbal in chart actually)???

[dr. farr]

Karakas are not necessarily always the same: certainly in mainstream Parasara they are, but both in Nadi and Jaimini branches of jyotish, karakas are variable depending upon planet's degree placements in the chart; remember too that shadbala and placement-although of course very imortant-are not the only parameters for assessing the net condition of a planet: its navamsa position, and its posture (avastha) can each make a very significant modification (+ or -) upon the net situation of the planet.
Also, suffering in any particular area of life activity is very much a condition of the prevailing dasa, modified by the current gochara (transit) situation, both of which can and do change over time.

[Shanti]

Originally Posted by Arianruler

Oh aye? so since venus is karaka for love/marriage, if you are suffering a lot in those areas now, does that mean you can still remain hopeful that it will eventually work out and be alright in the future?

So would that planet still be considered as "neecha" though? even if it is in virgo, getting neecha bhanga and also having shadbala of greater than 1? (3rd highest shadbal in chart actually)???

I agree with Dr Farr here. It's an individual issue, as no chart is same as other.

[Arianruler]

Originally Posted by Shanti

I agree with Dr Farr here. It's an individual issue, as no chart is same as other.

Yeah i know that.. but in general sense, venus does represent love/marriage, doesnt it? (on top of what it might rule for different lagnas)

the thing i dont understand is this - like i am virgo lagna and for me, venus is the most beneficial planet (ruling 2nd house and 9th of fate) which happens to be neecha but gets neecha bhang.. and venus also represents love affairs in general sense, so what am i suppose to interpret this as?

my only question is = is venus still going to be considered neecha eventhough it is getting neecha bhanga?

[anoop.indirapuramghazibad]

Neech bhang rajyog... we have to see total planetary position, degrees. Accordingly you will see results.

[daschinmayakumar]

DOB:17:MAR:1977
TIME: 17:55 PM
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Panditji : Virgo(ASC) Lord Mercury is niccha at 7 th house,however it is forming a Budha-Aditya Yoga with sun and also forming a trikona with jupiter 9th and shani 11 th . .
Also a chandra mangala yoga is there in 6th house.
My Question is how far this Budha-Aditya Yoga is powerful ?
And will it create any kind of marriage problem as this is at 7th house.

[selfless]

Originally Posted by Arianruler

Hi guys!

I am just curious about one thing - you know how venus is debilitated in virgo, right?

so if that venus is in 1st house along with Mercury (its dispositor) creating Neecha Bhang Raj Yoga, would venus still be considered neecha all life long, thus affecting things ruled by it? for eg.. love affair, married life etc....

in that case , u may do the following remedies to get better result :-
1....Due regard to be given to all FEMALES by the person who has this pattern in the kundli.
2..The women folk should never be bare foot on the ground, not even in kitchen/bath room..

[Arianruler]

Originally Posted by selfless

in that case , u may do the following remedies to get better result :-
1....Due regard to be given to all FEMALES by the person who has this pattern in the kundli.
2..The women folk should never be bare foot on the ground, not even in kitchen/bath room..

realllly???? but why? if there is neecha bhanga, are you still suppose to do those kind of remedies for venus?

i am wearing natural real zircon to make it stronger i guess... isnt that good enough?

[selfless]

Originally Posted by Arianruler

realllly???? but why? if there is neecha bhanga, are you still suppose to do those kind of remedies for venus?

i am wearing natural real zircon to make it stronger i guess... isnt that good enough?

see son, very sorry to say that , we do not have that much time to do following 2 tedious works for the people like u who need help:--
(1).at first, give u the remedy, then
2). to explain u why it is given to u .

if u believe it, u do the remedy... if u do not believe, then do not follow the remedy..
it is said in LAL KITAB that if u do not believe(or have doubt)in the remedies , then it never gives u any result.

so do what u like.

[dhundhun]

Originally Posted by Arianruler

Hi guys!

I am just curious about one thing - you know how venus is debilitated in virgo, right?

so if that venus is in 1st house along with Mercury (its dispositor) creating Neecha Bhang Raj Yoga, would Venus still be considered neecha all life long, thus affecting things ruled by it? for eg.. love affair, married life etc....

A debilitated planet is always debilitated - life long. Venus is ruler of 9th and 2nd. It is likely to have weak influences over the affairs of those houses as well all other stuffs handled by Venus.

Since there is Neech Bhang Raaj Yoga by Mercury, is due course of time, Mercury will become stronger. The more will be suffering through Venus, more will be stronger Mercury. There by affairs of 1st and 10th house will be stronger. Gains of 1st house and 10th house will mask weakness of 9th and 2nd.

There are people with better position in life, but with less salary. Less qualified person can be boss of several highly educated people. These type of Astrological Yogas create exceptions. You are likely to have some exception/uniqueness in life due to those placements.

Good Luck.

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Further the remedies suggested by selfless are OK. They help to minimize the ill effects. It is matter of faith.

[Jai Kishen]

ehhh ... I have venus in 3rd in virgo in vedic charts ~ could this have been any worse ? LMAO