What is the future of my marriage

apk · #1 02-24-2012, 10:41 PM

I am from India and I got married in March, 2011 in India. My wife and I were colleagues in the same Organization and were good friends before marriage. I fell in love with her and proposed. She wasn't in love with me, but since her parents thought this was a good proposal, she also agreed to this wedding. After the wedding, I realized that she was a little detached and wasn't caring. She was dominant, bossy and could be very blunt and rude at times. But other times she was extremely loving and caring to the extent that I have not experienced such love from anyone in my life, not even from my parents. It was a mix of extremes.. either it was too good or too bad. She was never interested in a physical relationship. It was 3 months after marriage that we had our first physical contact. We have not mated for more than a dozen times in the course of the almost 9 months we lived together, that too not in a complete and fulfilling manner. There have been equally happy moments of love too when we had a lot of fun and happiness watching movies, cooking, going out for dinner, spending time with each other talking, cleaning the house etc etc. But sometimes she totally accused me of things I did not mean. for eg: If we were going out of dinner and I asked her to "hurry up and get ready soon" she would say "so you feel that we will miss the dinner because of me.. ok I am not coming".. things like that which I never ever meant. She completely avoids and ignored me at times and this made me very depressed. There have been times when I have taken out my frustration on my own body by hitting my head and chest, to get her to at least acknowledge my presence because she has totally ignored me for days together.. I was also sexually frustrated at lot of times. In December 2011, I traveled to America for official purposes. We hugged and cried when parting at the airport.. we were so full of love when I left india.. But 2 weeks after I reached US a fight broke out.. It was so ugly and my parents got involved. Now she totally cut off all contact with me and my family. Deleted me from facebook, blocked me. Blocked me from our office communicator. Doesnt respond to any calls, messages or mails from me or my parents. She said she wants divorce. Its been a month and a half since this incident and its been exactly one month since we spoke to each other today. I really want to salvage this relationship and hope to get this marriage back on track by doing counselling etc. But I feel she is very strong in her decision and is drifting farther and farther every day. I really want to know the future of this marriage. Please help me.

rafaella · #2 02-25-2012, 12:25 PM

I'm very sorry for what you are going through. Unfortunately, you posted your natal chart, in this section we require horary charts - the chart that was 'born' when you asked this question.

When a question comes into your mind and you want to know the answer, you check the time the moment the question came to you and then go produce the chart on astro.com...

Hope this clarifies it!

agarth · #3 02-25-2012, 02:16 PM

It's true that a horary chart posted by the Original Poster is more convenient, but it is in no way necessary. If the astrologer is interested in providing an answer, he or she can always create a chart for the moment they understand the question, as I have done here.

What is the future of my marriage?
25-02-2012
9:26am
Decatur, GA

First of all, let me express my deepest sympathy for your situation. I'm afraid that I do not have good news.

Aries rises, with Venus, ruler of the 7th (your wife), hovering over the cusp of the Ascendant. In this chart you are represented by Mars retrograde in the 6th house of "bad fortune", indicating your weakness in the situation. Mars is in his joy in the 6th house, so you may be feeling like you want to "fight for your love", or that you "have the spirit to overcome this challenge." Unfortunately, in my opinion, it's out of your hands.

The Moon co-rules the question, and in this case rules the 4th house which represents "the end of the matter". The Moon is applying to the conjunction of Venus, your wife, which seems to indicate that you will be hearing from your wife soon. Maybe even in two days, as cardinal signs represent days and the Moon is two degrees away from your wife's significator Venus. However, as the Moon represents "the end of the matter in this case", you may be receiving word from her that the marriage is over. Further corroboration for this is shown by the position of the retrograde Saturn, in, as Dr. Farr has pointed out, the pitted last degree of Libra right inside the 7th house of marriage and the spouse. Retrograde planets, planets in the 30th degree and planets in pitted degrees do not behave well, so despite Saturn's exalted status in Libra, I would not be expecting good things from his presence in the 7th. Saturn also represents endings, unsurmountable hurdles and depression, and the Moon makes its last aspect by opposition to Saturn. The marriage is over. Notice that Venus is also applying to the opposition of Saturn. As well as representing your wife, Venus is naturally the goddess of love and the Lady of Marriage. Saturn is cold and his opposition to Venus will "cool" her ardor and affection. Note also that the Moon is translating the light from Venus to Saturn.

Also of note is the fact that the planet representing you is in Virgo and the planet representing your wife is in Aries. There is no Ptolemaic aspect between these signs, so there is "no relationship" between you two.

From your description of your marriage that you have given us, it sounds like it has been less than optimal for both of you, but that the onus of the emotional strain and unhappiness has rested on you. Despite your feelings of love for this woman, the end of this marriage may actually be a positive step towards finding a partner who is able to love and care for you on a more consistent level. It is my sincere hope for you that such a relationship will be the case.

Vista · #4 02-25-2012, 03:27 PM

Hello Apk,
I started to move our thread to the "Read my chart" but see Agarth posted a horary chart for you. The concern I see with Agarth delineation is that in my mind he would be the querent, i.e. first house ruler, you would be the 7th house, and I would think your turned 4th house would be your wifes ruler. Now, I am no expert at horary, however since Agarth is involved with the reading he would have something to do with this chart, i.e. be the 1st house ruler I would think. Not suggesting he is wrong, just wonderubg about this. Maybe one of the other experienced Horary astrologers will step in too.

Vista

Vista · #5 02-25-2012, 03:40 PM

With what I said previously, if we use your wife as Saturn(i.e. the turned 10th house or your 4th house) she is sitting right on-top of your DEC, or your ASC in the turned 1st house. She would be opposing the DEC or your marriage. In addition, the last aspect the Moon makes is an opposition to Saturn, again an unfavorable outcome. You, or Mars is in your turned 12th house of sorrow, this is affecting you greatly but you are unable to act on it as she has taken all the power away by her actions. As mention by Agarth, Saturn is in a pitted degree and retrograde, so she is not in good shape either although she has more power because of being in an angular house and elevated in Libra. So, I think the outcome will be the same as what Agarth suggested, she will contact you, however I don't believe any good will come of it based on the final aspect of the Moon opposing Saturn.

If you don't mind my saying so, I think you could find someone who would treat you better.

agarth · #6 02-25-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Vista

Hello Apk,
I started to move our thread to the "Read my chart" but see Agarth posted a horary chart for you. The concern I see with Agarth delineation is that in my mind he would be the querent, i.e. first house ruler, you would be the 7th house, and I would think your turned 4th house would be your wifes ruler. Now, I am no expert at horary, however since Agarth is involved with the reading he would have something to do with this chart, i.e. be the 1st house ruler I would think. Not suggesting he is wrong, just wonderubg about this. Maybe one of the other experienced Horary astrologers will step in too.

Vista

Just to clarify, even though I created the chart, the 1st house would still be considered the original querent, and not myself. I basically treated the time as though he had asked me personally, since I have no emotional stake in the question. It seems that we have come to the same conclusion, though.

apk · #7 02-25-2012, 07:26 PM

Thank you all very much for your analysis and responses. I was actually hoping that something positive, Though it doesn't really appear to be so. Is there anyway someone can actually tell me my future.. as in what will happen to my life on the marriage front in future as this present marriage appears to fail.

Vista · #8 02-25-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by apk

Thank you all very much for your analysis and responses. I was actually hoping that something positive, Though it doesn't really appear to be so. Is there anyway someone can actually tell me my future.. as in what will happen to my life on the marriage front in future as this present marriage appears to fail.

I am sorry you are feeling down, but you have to know what you described as your married life cannot be healthy. Better to get out early and move on before it gets complicated and you bring children into the situation.

Now, transiting Saturn will come back for a final time in the next few months and negatively aspect your 7th house cusp and Venus, this house rules your relationships. I believe at this time your marriage will likely dissolve or you could be served with divorce papers, or if you already have, they could be finalize at this time. This transit lasts a while, so it could be over a few month time period. Soon, you will have Transiting Uranus sextiling your Sun in the 7th house too, this could be a freeing time for you or a time of acceptance. I think you will be ok, I really do. Just let the universe take you where you are suppose to go.

If you want a little more detail, if you could add transits and progression to your natal chart and reattch, I think we will be able to give you more informaiton.

Vista

apk · #9 02-25-2012, 09:06 PM

Thanks a lot. What is transit and progression. Where can I get this chart from, I do not know anything about astrology. I would really like to know the possibility of a future marriage in life.. a happy one.. Please let me know how, I shall provide you with the progression and transit chart you mentioned. Thanks so much again.

Vista · #10 02-25-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by apk

Thanks a lot. What is transit and progression. Where can I get this chart from, I do not know anything about astrology. I would really like to know the possibility of a future marriage in life.. a happy one.. Please let me know how, I shall provide you with the progression and transit chart you mentioned. Thanks so much again.

You know I was looking at your chart now that you added in the transits, I am thinking your wife might come back around again. Retrograde planets usually are a return to a previous situation. I believe Saturn will come back to conjunct your 7th ruler Saturn, BUT at the same time is will square your Venus and DEC ruler. So, I still think the outcome will not be favorable. you might be wasting your energy on something the is doomed to fail, but you might need to do this to have some closer instead of thinking "what if." May I ask a question, was this an arranged marriage or did you meet on your own volition? The reason I ask is, you have natal Uranus in your 5th house of romance and it's squaring your natal Moon. There is a slightly erratic quality to your emotions, maybe one minute "your in" and the other instance you are "out." Now, this can be projected onto the woman you are with and based on what you have shared it seems this is what happen with your wife. You also tend to like women who are unavailable to you in some way, with your wife clearly it was emotionally and physically as from an intimacy standpoint. This will be a problem if you are not careful. Think about past relationships if you have had them, is there a theme there of them being "unavailable" in some way, or perhaps you were the one that was not as interested, again it could go both ways.

apk · #11 02-25-2012, 10:25 PM

Hi, My wife and I were colleagues at work. We were good friends. I proposed to her, called up her parents and got my parents to approach her folks with a formal proposal. Then the elders in both families spoke to each other and she was also ok with the wedding. So you could say that this was a love marriage from my point of view and an arranged marriage from her point of view.

About past relationships. I liked a girl in college. both of us liked each other but then she got married to someone due to parental pressure, different religion etc etc. Then I had a relationship with another girl but it broke off soon coz things didnt work out. We were fighting a lot and we stopped meeting each other and slowly we didnt even call each other and finally we decided to break up. I took the decision in breaking up. There was nothing physical in either of these relationships. Do let me know if there is anything else you would like to know.

anoop.indirapuramghazibad · #12 02-26-2012, 01:46 AM

HI Arun,
I agree that your wife is disciplined, attractive, charming loving, intelligent and caring too. Difference is in bedroom. You like non traditional methods, for her I can not say, because, I don't have her horoscope. Your moon is Asc. lord and is placed in 8th house. That indicates that your mood is... what I mean to say is avoid depression environment, and enjoy life. Even in your childhood days when you were sick, god was there to save your life. If possible you can send details of your wife so that I can see solutions
Good luck.

apk · #13 02-26-2012, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by anoop.indirapuramghazibad

HI Arun,
I agree that your wife is disciplined, attractive, charming loving, intelligent and caring too. Difference is in bedroom. You like non traditional methods, for her I can not say, because, I don't have her horoscope. Your moon is Asc. lord and is placed in 8th house. That indicates that your mood is... what I mean to say is avoid depression environment, and enjoy life. Even in your childhood days when you were sick, god was there to save your life. If possible you can send details of your wife so that I can see solutions
Good luck.

Hi Anoop,

Thanks a lot for your reply.
These are the birth details of me and my wife

ME:

Date: Jan 27, 1982
Time: 5.39 PM
Place: Ernakulam, Kerala. India

MY WIFE:

Date: Feb 8, 1984
Time: 5.15 AM
Place: Pallimon, Kollam, India

Please do let me know the future of my marriage.. wil it end in divorce.. are there any solutions and If there is any chance of being able to live together kindly do let me know.

If not, please do let me know if both of us have the possibility of remarriage in life