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08-17-2009, 12:30 PM
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Where will I find the Wedding ring?
This question was asked of me today. At first I thought it would be an easy one, but if there's anyone out there who can help me I'd be grateful. The ring belongs to a man in his sixties. He's been looking for about 5 weeks, he said. He's turned his house upside down.In desperation,he consulted me.
I'm going to post the chart and then begin my delineation in the next post. (I've been losing a few posts lately-server problems, I think).
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08-17-2009, 12:51 PM
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Re: Where will I find the Wedding ring?
The querent is ruled by Saturn. Fixed sign Aquarius sits on the ascendant at 14.52 deg-so that meets the requirement of ascendant degree not being too early or too late.
The moon is not void of course. Saturn is not in the seventh. I believe the chart is radical.
The ring is ruled by Jupiter, as Pisces is on the cusp of house two, his possessions.
Jupiter is almost on top of him (the ascendant in this chart), and heading even closer. This suggests the ring is where it should be? Near to him?
The querent's ruler, Saturn is in the eighth house, about to be conjuncted by Mercury, who leaves a sextile to Venus, the natural ruler of possessions.Venus can also be a woman, and in this chart Venus rules H4-the home, or outcome and H9-which rules Churches among other things-
The moon is strong by being in Cancer, but not well placed in the fifth house. I wonder if the querent has children.Pars Fortuna is yet to oppose the moon.(in 9 somethings).The moon applies a conjunction to Venus, who is sextile the querent's ruler.As Venus rules the outcome (H4 cusp being Taurus),I see this a positive testimony of recovery.
The interesting thing is, the querent Saturn, and the ring, Jupiter,are almost exactly quincunx. Does this mean, he just can't see the ring, even though it is closeby? It might be high up as Jupiter is literally rising in an air sign.With pisces on the H2 cusp could it be in a place where water or the colour blue is present?
If anyone can help me out here, I'd be grateful.
Thanks
Lillyjgc.
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08-17-2009, 01:54 PM
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Re: Where will I find the Wedding ring?
He will sure find it, rule rof 2nd is rx.
First look near glass stuff, photographic equipment, near tobacco, alcohol or medicine stuff. - The significator for the missing item angular house shows that it is near its owner, and suggests a quick recovery. Ruler in fixed signs indicate low places, near the earth, well hidden, or on level ground. Humane signs (Gemini, Virgo, Libra, Aquarius) indicate that the lost object will be found in a place frequented by people -such as the home, rather than outside in a secluded area.
It can be in or near a built-in device or equipment, a shelf or a closet that is not part of the house, near electrical appliances, radios, televisions, computers, in a TV room with stereo equipment, near a telephone area, close to a meter panel or fuse box, close to a light in a room that has been remodeled or modernized, an additional room with modern furniture, part of the house that was in the original structure, in rooms upstairs, near a drafty window, planning or drafting room or a room with barely comfortable furniture.
Ruler in 1st house means it is where he put it . Look at place where quarent spends the most time, also the entry hall, front porch, front door and windows of a house. Look in quarent's wearing things also.
Direction: east
Near colour:red, blue, infigo
I hope you cast chart with day formula for POF and its placement in 11 house near Pl suggest to look near junk items with no value, garbage. A friend may have seen it or put it someplace. Places where the querent hopes or wishes to be. Look also in the guest room. Look in dark corners near the floor, low, dark places, near thresholds and boundaries. Look at business areas or near some potted plant.
Check out in a basement, disorderly room, rooms with leather or plastic accessories or furnishings, room with old worn furniture or sparsely furnished, a room where an old person stays, near a refrigerator or freezer, dark places that are hard to reach, a shelf where there are ceramics, next to an air conditioner, places where wood is stored, a corner.
Direction: South by East
Near colour: black, gray, brown
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08-17-2009, 02:54 PM
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Re: Where will I find the Wedding ring?
Thankyou very much fensi88..This is very helpful.Yes I did use day formula for pars fortuna. I wondered how to read its upcoming opposition to the moon though.
He does believe the ring to be in his house. Neptune's placement in H1 suggested to me he may have forgotten where he put it.
I'll advise him to look in the places you have suggested.
Again, thankyou.
Cheers
Lillyjgc.
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08-18-2009, 03:22 AM
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Re: Where will I find the Wedding ring?
Ok. I have informed the querent to keep looking!Now I am wondering if this chart shows a time frame for recovery:
Saturn, his sig and Jupiter-the ring are closely quincunx-no applying aspect.
The moon will sextile his ruler in 11 somethings (could be days) but the moon will quincunx the ruler of the ring.
While writing this, the guy texted me to say he wants to find the ring to have it melted down to make a small elephant.
Now I see why Jupiter is ruling the ring! Jupiter definitely rules elephants!!!
Using modern rulers again for a sec, the ring might be damaged as jupiter is in Saturn's sign but if it's to be reworked that doesn't matter.
Anyone want to have a stab at timing in this chart?
Cheers
lillyjgc
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08-18-2009, 08:31 AM
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Re: Where will I find the Wedding ring?
Maybe for 7 days (Ju rx conjunct ASC).
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