Lapis
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"......Sometimes, one of these kuiperoids is pulled by Neptune, Uranus, or Saturn into the interior of the solar system, where it then circles in an unstable orbit until it is thrown out - by Saturn in most cases. Six of such former members of the Kuiper belt have been discovered so far, and the astronomers call them "centaurs". Only two of them have a final name as yet. Discovered in 1977 and 1992, they were named after Chiron and Pholus, two wise centaurs of Greek mythology. All the "centuars" seem to revolve around the Sun in very eccentric ellipses, and in most cases, they link the orbits to two planets with each other. For example, with a revolution period of around 50 years, Chiron moves between Saturn and Uranus, while Pholus, with its 91 year revolution period, orbits between Saturn and Neptune.
The third centaur was discovered in 1993. It has a period of 124 years and links the orbits of Saturn with the sphere of Pluto. It may be the third "key planet" waiting for us on the threshold of Saturn to guide us into the realm of a "spiritual" planet. Its provisional designation is 1993 HA2, and if the astronomers continue to keep to mythology, they will probably name it Nessus. The official decision, however, is still being awaited........
In myth, Chiron and Pholus are closely connected. They were considered to be the only reasonable, wise, and philanthropic centaurs. Both were friends of Hercules, and both were accidentally killed by his poisonous arrows while he was fighting with the other centaurs.......
It was the destiny of both centaurs - and many other centaurs, too - to be killed by the poisonous arrows of Hercules. This clearly shows in their astrological significance - all other planetary gods and goddessess are immortal, but the centuars are not. So the specific mythology of the centaurs involves death and transformation - the end of an old life and the beginning of a new and higher life.
The centaur himself can be understood as a symbol for the hybrid position of human beings between the animal kingdom and the gods, or between animal impulse and reason. The death of a centaur, then, represent the release from this tension, and the transformation of what is subconscious and impulsive into understanding and consciousness. Hercules is the hero who kills the centaurs, half intentionally and half unintentionally. He symbolizes individuality striving for consciousness.....
....Pholus on the other hand, moves to and from Saturn and Neptune, and his average solar distance lies near Uranus. He dies suddenly. It is not a lengthy process and is relatively painless. Afterwwards, his situation is a completely different one. Either he had found a new perspective or he finds himself in a catastrophe. As for the third centaur, 1993 HA2, who will perhaps be named Nessus, and is the "Pluto key", death does not come so easily. He is stabbed in the heart, experiencing tremendous pain, and is left with feelings of bitterness and revenge......
In other words, Pholus symbolizes parts of our nature from which we are still cut off and with which we try to make contact. The parts in question may be areas that connot be unfolded without problems, or, on the other hand, they may concern an area where we try to, an in time do, make great progress. A combination of Pholus and Mercury, for example, can indicat high precision and almost magical power in a person's mercurial abilities, or, to the contrary, dyslexia and dyscalculia.....
....So Pholus is in a state of tension between self-destruction and the deepening of his own character by additional experiences. The pholic person treads the narrow path of great and seemingly easy success with the risk of catastrophic slips. Whatever actually happens, the person alters. She or he has left the past behind, has cast off an old skin (the Greek word pholis means "scale"), has passed a rocky ledge, and has either quite unexpectedly found a wonderful plateau or stumbled over the edge into the precipice.....
Instead of blindness, Pholus sometimes gives visionary power. In the myth he is a haruspex - he reads from the entrails of sacrifical animals. People with Pholus at the IC are often very inspired, and are sometimes spiritual channels or seers. Yet in the myths, the seer is often blind. It is not easy to see the future and at the same time be aware of reality......"
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This was from "The New Planet Pholus" by Dieter Koch and Robert von Heeren in the Mountain Astrologer July 1996.
Obviously I left out much due to space but tried to cover the basics in the article. Because my 'rulers' are Saturn and Neptune, Pholus really interests me. I feel all of these centaurs are very important. They each deal with getting us past Saturn and connected to another of the Outer Planets which I think is very powerful. Please add any current info about Pholus that any of us finds.
The third centaur was discovered in 1993. It has a period of 124 years and links the orbits of Saturn with the sphere of Pluto. It may be the third "key planet" waiting for us on the threshold of Saturn to guide us into the realm of a "spiritual" planet. Its provisional designation is 1993 HA2, and if the astronomers continue to keep to mythology, they will probably name it Nessus. The official decision, however, is still being awaited........
In myth, Chiron and Pholus are closely connected. They were considered to be the only reasonable, wise, and philanthropic centaurs. Both were friends of Hercules, and both were accidentally killed by his poisonous arrows while he was fighting with the other centaurs.......
It was the destiny of both centaurs - and many other centaurs, too - to be killed by the poisonous arrows of Hercules. This clearly shows in their astrological significance - all other planetary gods and goddessess are immortal, but the centuars are not. So the specific mythology of the centaurs involves death and transformation - the end of an old life and the beginning of a new and higher life.
The centaur himself can be understood as a symbol for the hybrid position of human beings between the animal kingdom and the gods, or between animal impulse and reason. The death of a centaur, then, represent the release from this tension, and the transformation of what is subconscious and impulsive into understanding and consciousness. Hercules is the hero who kills the centaurs, half intentionally and half unintentionally. He symbolizes individuality striving for consciousness.....
....Pholus on the other hand, moves to and from Saturn and Neptune, and his average solar distance lies near Uranus. He dies suddenly. It is not a lengthy process and is relatively painless. Afterwwards, his situation is a completely different one. Either he had found a new perspective or he finds himself in a catastrophe. As for the third centaur, 1993 HA2, who will perhaps be named Nessus, and is the "Pluto key", death does not come so easily. He is stabbed in the heart, experiencing tremendous pain, and is left with feelings of bitterness and revenge......
In other words, Pholus symbolizes parts of our nature from which we are still cut off and with which we try to make contact. The parts in question may be areas that connot be unfolded without problems, or, on the other hand, they may concern an area where we try to, an in time do, make great progress. A combination of Pholus and Mercury, for example, can indicat high precision and almost magical power in a person's mercurial abilities, or, to the contrary, dyslexia and dyscalculia.....
....So Pholus is in a state of tension between self-destruction and the deepening of his own character by additional experiences. The pholic person treads the narrow path of great and seemingly easy success with the risk of catastrophic slips. Whatever actually happens, the person alters. She or he has left the past behind, has cast off an old skin (the Greek word pholis means "scale"), has passed a rocky ledge, and has either quite unexpectedly found a wonderful plateau or stumbled over the edge into the precipice.....
Instead of blindness, Pholus sometimes gives visionary power. In the myth he is a haruspex - he reads from the entrails of sacrifical animals. People with Pholus at the IC are often very inspired, and are sometimes spiritual channels or seers. Yet in the myths, the seer is often blind. It is not easy to see the future and at the same time be aware of reality......"
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This was from "The New Planet Pholus" by Dieter Koch and Robert von Heeren in the Mountain Astrologer July 1996.
Obviously I left out much due to space but tried to cover the basics in the article. Because my 'rulers' are Saturn and Neptune, Pholus really interests me. I feel all of these centaurs are very important. They each deal with getting us past Saturn and connected to another of the Outer Planets which I think is very powerful. Please add any current info about Pholus that any of us finds.
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