terrcolomba
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how do you predict death?
Part of Death? the 8th house? the 12th house? Saturn? the Hyleg?
Part of Death? the 8th house? the 12th house? Saturn? the Hyleg?
i'm sick and i want to know if i am going to die.Hi Terrcolomba;
No moral astrologer will predict your death; the closest you may get is having one give you some advice on how to prolong your life and reach longevity.
Astrology isnt meant to scare others, but rather to empower... an astrologer of any worth will not describe your death to you.
thanks.According to Vedik Astrology, 8th house stands for Longevity, and 7th house is 12th to 8th house, means expense of Longevity. 2nd house is 8th of 7th house, means longevity of expense of Age. Hence (i) 7th Lord is lord of death, (ii) 2nd lord is also lord of death, (iii) 8th lord is lord of Age, certainly is also lord of Age, if malefic effect is on Lord of age, will effect accordingly. (iv)Planets placed with these lords of deaths can also act as lord of death. These lords are placed in various houses, their lords can also be lord of death, and their aspect will give malefic effect.
12th lord, because is 12th for Asc. 3rd house and lord because is 8th from 8th.
Now dasha, transit planets will guide us for the results.
These dashas can also impact on various aspects of life- Financially,adverse effect in Society, Mentally, Bed-ridden patients, Insult, finally last breath.
I mean to say these dashas are not good and will give ill health (Physically, Financially, Socially and finally for age)
No ethical astrologer will address that issue. There are many scenarios for death and really who wants to know???. IF it cannot be prevented it is futile. Transits and progressions will give indications but it is advisable only for those who we are know are dying and may give timing.how do you predict death?
Part of Death? the 8th house? the 12th house? Saturn? the Hyleg?
This has been addressed in other posts. No squares to south node involved. The 8th house was involved as was the 6th house. Although her death was accidental, it was almost inevitable she would die of drug overdose, given her history. She was in rehab but had been many times before. Her addiction was intense and deep and very hard to overcome.thanks.
this is whitney houston natal with transits of the day she died
https://infinitynow.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/whitney_houston-natal.gif
what caused her death in the chart?
natal 7th , 12th to 8th is mercury and square south node in 4th and 2nd mars 8th to 8th square pluto
There is some discussion specifically of Whitney Houston's recent passing at this link http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46808thanks.
this is whitney houston natal with transits of the day she died
https://infinitynow.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/whitney_houston-natal.gif
what caused her death in the chart?
natal 7th , 12th to 8th is mercury and square south node in 4th and 2nd mars 8th to 8th square pluto
Death is unpredictable. There are a variety of variables that go into it and you just can't account for them all with something as vague as astrology.
For example, some people have charts that show they should've died in childhood. And this would be 100% true... 500 years ago when we didn't have vaccines for smallpox. Or maybe you'll get shot and die, except the hospital you were sent to has the most advanced trauma center in the world and they manage to perform a miracle and save you. You never know, with all the advances we have it's hard to say how or why someone will die.
Furthermore, as someone stated above, it's immoral for an astrologer to tell you of your time of death. The reason being is similar to an effect researchers observe when they're studying people. The presence of the researcher invariably changes the subject. The same is true for the astrologer; the knowledge of your death changes how you respond to it, leading to a strong possibility the initial outcome was changed.
According to Vedik Astrology, 8th house stands for Longevity, and 7th house is 12th to 8th house, means expense of Longevity. 2nd house is 8th of 7th house, means longevity of expense of Age. Hence (i) 7th Lord is lord of death, (ii) 2nd lord is also lord of death, (iii) 8th lord is lord of Age, certainly is also lord of Age, if malefic effect is on Lord of age, will effect accordingly. (iv)Planets placed with these lords of deaths can also act as lord of death. These lords are placed in various houses, their lords can also be lord of death, and their aspect will give malefic effect.
12th lord, because is 12th for Asc. 3rd house and lord because is 8th from 8th.
Now dasha, transit planets will guide us for the results.
These dashas can also impact on various aspects of life- Financially,adverse effect in Society, Mentally, Bed-ridden patients, Insult, finally last breath.
I mean to say these dashas are not good and will give ill health (Physically, Financially, Socially and finally for age)
Since Saturn is the lord of Longevity and Sun is for Self, so these two planets are also key planets to consider Longevity.
Death is unpredictable. There are a variety of variables that go into it and you just can't account for them all with something as vague as astrology.
For example, some people have charts that show they should've died in childhood. And this would be 100% true... 500 years ago when we didn't have vaccines for smallpox. Or maybe you'll get shot and die, except the hospital you were sent to has the most advanced trauma center in the world and they manage to perform a miracle and save you. You never know, with all the advances we have it's hard to say how or why someone will die.
Furthermore, as someone stated above, it's immoral for an astrologer to tell you of your time of death. The reason being is similar to an effect researchers observe when they're studying people. The presence of the researcher invariably changes the subject. The same is true for the astrologer; the knowledge of your death changes how you respond to it, leading to a strong possibility the initial outcome was changed.
how can someone identify possible critical periods and determine the quality of their influences? what's the method? thanksClosest we can come is the identification of possible critical periods and a determi9nation of the quality of influences operating during those periods. And even this can really only be done with substantial accuracy by experts in the field of predictive astrology.
what's divisional charts? what did you mean(the underlined part)?I had seen this chart according to Vedik Astrology. At the time of Death Mahadasha - Moon, Antar dasha- Venus, Pratyantar Dasha - Moon, Sukshm Dasha - Merc., and Pran Dasha- Sat.
Now Moon- 5L, placed in Asc, Venus 8L and 3L(8th from 8th) placed with Sun6L (Aspect from Sat - malefic impact on Venus), again Moon - 5L, Merc- 7L and 4th lord, and finally sat. 11L and 12L (aspect from Venus-8L and Sun, malefic impact).
Out of these dashas- Mahadasha Placed in Asc, and 5th house (10th from 8th lord) placed in self effecting self, Ven. - for 8 L (8L is the lord of age) and 8th from 8th (3rd L), Moon -self, Merc. (7th Lord- Lord of death), then Sat. (Effective from 10-2-2012 mid night to 13-2-2012) 12 L (Expense of Self)
Now Transit Sat, in 8th house, Jup. in 2nd house Aspects- Merc., Sat. Aspects- Sat in 11 house, Venus in 5th house and 2nd house. Mars - placed in 6th house, aspects-12 house and Moon self. Moon in 6th house aspects 12H.
Now if we see Divisional charts D-3, Sat is 8Land 7L (Lord of Age and death) Marc. Lord of 12 house (Expense of self), Moon Asc. , Now D-12, Sat.- 8L and 7th L, Mer and Ven placed in 8th house, Moon Asc.
D-30 , Ven 2nd L and 7L,Sat 3rd house (8th from 8thhouse)
how can someone identify possible critical periods and determine the quality of their influences? what's the method? thanks
MSO,if an astrologer predict death to someone that isn't already dying,they can try to prevent their death if they know the quality of the influences(dr. farr said that you can know that.) and that could be why there are critical times because if you know the method to find the critical times and the quality of their influences(dr. farr could tell us) you may be able to prevent it.