Sure I know how it's called. What I was saying is that it's a WIDE orb to have any serious effect. In Egypt the uprising is serious; not just a discontent with the government.
That's correct. Persian and Medieval astrologers paid very little attention to transits and on the few occasions they looked at transits, they certainly didn't use Whole Sign aspects.
The reason we use orbs with transits (and such tight orbs) is because in practice, that's the only thing that works.
juicey J. said:
Yes but the last time saturn and pluto where even remotely in square in these signs a little thing called the American Revolution happened. Also, with uranus later this year going into square to pluto along with the jupiter opposing saturn and a good handful of negative fixed star combos come due in march this is only the begining of such things for the world.
That's just bad astrology.
Pluto was at 28° Capricorn when the War of Colonial Independence began (if you can show evidence the Colonies invaded Britain, over-threw King George and instituted a new government then you can claim there was a "revolution" -- otherwise you're just spouting American political propaganda), and Pluto was transiting the 2nd House (the Sibley Propaganda Chart is the wrong chart but it does have the correct rising Sign -- Sagittarius).
Saturn in the 11th House square Pluto in the 2nd House isn't about civil wars.
The England 1066 Chart has a Capricorn MC but there was no "revolution" in the UK, so your argument fails miserably (there were no "revolutions" anywhere).
In fact, Pluto in Capricorn as "political transformation" is a total failure, and the transit of Pluto through Capricorn in the early 1500s is really embarrassing, just as Pluto in Capricorn in the late 1200s is.
If you want to make a generalized statement about Pluto in Capricorn, then you can say "economic turmoil."
That was the case for the late 1200s (the earliest point at which we have any semblance of written financial data or commentaries about the finances of kingdoms and countries), again in the early 1500s, and again in the mid-1700s, where we can pinpoint problems to the collapse of the East India Trading Company that resulted in a "credit crunch" leading to rolling recessions throughout the world (and yes, that would include China and Japan).
Trade between Britain and its New World Colonies came to a virtual stand-still, which reduced the Crown's income.
That was the reason for the Stamp Tax Act, the Tea Tax Act, and various other Acts that attempted to squeeze money from the Colonies and colonists.