The horary question is "will he contact me in the next three months?"
Querent = Saturn in Libra conjunct cusp 10
Quested = Moon in Pisces in the third house 3
Is the Moon void or is the quincunx between Moon and Saturn before Moon leaves Pisces a valid aspect?
If quincunx doesn't count, the Moon is void.
The chart is not valid, a waist of time, right?
The Moon is approaching Saturn. I have read different things about the Quincunx.
• The answer to the question is NO
• The querent has a choice; if the querent makes some changes the answer could become positive.
If the Moon (the quested) approaches Saturn (the querent), in what way the querent can make changes?
Both the lords of third (Jupiter) and the ninth (Mercury) (the third ruler of the quested) houses are retrograde.
Does this mean that this isn't the right time for some kind of contact, but things will change drastically in three months?
These lords are not aspecting each other, although the third ruler of the quested is in reception with the third ruler of querent. Mercury is in its detriment in Sagittarius. It is also combusted by the Sun.
Conclusion: the querent wants to make it happen (Jupiter receives Mercury - and the ruler of the quested is in his third house), but the quested does not (Mercury doesn't feel at home in Sagittarius and is overpowered by the Sun). Right?
I hope some one can help by answering my questions.
Hello Ms. Anna:
Good evening to you.
Okay, I will try to give you, the newcomer to horary astrology, the straight and honest 'goods' about the inconjunction (or 150 degree aspect) in horary astrology and also, how to apply it in your own chart.
I have been doing professional horary charts for some 35 years and, not to blow my own horn, I have clients around the world who have recognized my own superior horary skills...
That said, the main reason why we do analysis at ALL, is to PLEASE or SERVE the client...The astrologer is certainly NOT the star of the show, but the querent always IS ! Would you agree ? (Many astrologers have it #ss backwards, in my opinion...when it comes to customer service !)
Meanwhile, you, the querant, should have the right to make up your OWN mind as to how this 150 degree aspect figures into the equation. The reason ?
A teacher of astrology (even an expert for that matter), must ALWAYS be a GUIDE, not a 'guard' or a 'dictator ?' The teacher is merely a guide, a boat or vessel or a method of conveyance.... that takes you from one part of the lake or ocean to another...
After you have reached shore, the boat is not discarded, but hoisted on your shoulders much like the
courier de bois did, (the 'runners of the woods') who explored this great, vast, North American countryside...The journey of astrology is therefore, relentless, and carries on, by land, mountain, or even by air...even if we, ourselves, lose faith in horary technology ?
Essentially, most of the rules of today's horary astrology were invented by ONE man; William Lilly, whom I also have a good deal of respect for.
The main problem is that William Lilly has been deceased now for over 600 years and, the world has changed greatly since the days of Lilly. Several new planets have since been discovered since the 15th century and several important new discoveries and inventions have been made, including viruses and epidemics like AIDS and also, the airplane. These new inventions and conditions cannot be represented by the old planets; sorry, they just CAN'T !
In 1972, a prominent American horary astrologer named Barbara Watters decided to add to Lily's horary rules, not to replace them. but simply augment them ! Watters, being as good as she was, could have re-invented the wheel and tossed everything by Lilly into the garbage can. Instead, history shows that she KEPT many of Lily's precepts and simply added to them. (This includes historians like Lee Lehman, a former professor at Kepler College).
For example, Watters determined (from her own research) that the
trans-Saturnian planets (Uranus, Neptune and Pluto) COULD be applied to horary type situations, without undue penalty to the querent and also, because it is practical to do so ?
The outer-planets, reasoned Miss Watters, represent worldly circumstances BEYOND the control of the querent, or societal conditions, that have a tangible impact on the question being asked.
For example, if you are asking a question about investments in precious metals or commodities, and the global market changes or the government decides to restrict currency trading or the buying of certain metals, then those changes cannot be deduced from the traditional planets, alone.
Miss Watters has given numerous, numerous references to the outer planets and how they can work properly. She is deceased now, but go and google her and lots of stuff will still come up...
I have also been using the outer planets in my own horary practice and and believe ME, they often make a huge difference in the final outcome of these charts !
Miss Watters also was a MAJOR proponent of the 150 degree aspect, along with the use of the Placidus system of house division, (as opposed to Lily's Regiomontanus house system).
In the almost 40 years since her book first came out (
Horary Astrology and the Judgement of Events), her revamped techniques have been used by astrologers all over the world, and with great results. She also gives many examples of her new techniques in that same book.
The
quincunx or 150 degree aspect (according to Barbara Watters) is frequently an aspect of
fatalism, especially involved in horary questions re: transportation, airplane travel, car, or boating accidents.
The inconjunction is also an aspect that denotes an event with negative consequences for which the querent usually has little or no control or say over the matter.
To answer your own question. The Moon in Pisces (ruler of HIM, the other partner) is making an inconjunction to Saturn in LIbra, the signficator of your 1st house. Therefore, the Moon, here is still valid and is NOT void of course !
The interpretation would be as follows: since the radix. Moon is applying to radix Saturn in Libra the 10th house, by inconjunction, any communication contact between you is likely to be delayed, since Saturn rules delays...
Meanwhile, since Saturn is angular and Moon is in a cadent house, ths desire for communication is more important to YOU than to HIM ! Would you agree?
Unfortunately, the Moon in Pisces (a mutable sign) is also found in the turned 9th house (a cadent house), which is the SLOWEST of ALL combinations, in terms of speed...
Therefore, I predict that you will eventually communicate with him, but perhaps outside of the 3 month time frame that you asked about ! Maybe in 2 months ?
The delay might well be because: a) of your heavy work schedule at this time. (Saturn conjunct the radix MC), combined with b) his stressful travel or school schedule (Moon in turned 9th house).
good luck to you,
R.J. Smith