james
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I would love to hear the opinion of an expert on a particular scenario I recently discovered in my natal chart, which is attached.
My ascendant is Taurus, whose ruler is VENUS in last few minutes of Aries.
On the other hand, I have a sole, final dispositor of SATURN in Capricorn, conjunct Mid-heaven. As I understand this, Saturn therefore commands the other planets in my chart; or conversely, all the other planets in my chart "report" to Saturn. (I worked out my dispositor trail under the assumption that only personal/traditional planets could rule, and that outer/modern planets could only be ruled, and not themselves rule.)
Now here's where I'm in over my head:
(1) the LOWEST planet in my dispositor hierarchy is none other than Venus (ruler of ascendant). So my two apparent "chart rulers" are at OPPOSITE extremes of my dispositor trail. There is definite tension between these two planets, as low-ranking Venus SQUARES commander Saturn with an orb of ZERO degrees (and separating). I don't think it's controversial to say that this is one of the most important aspects in my chart, as it involves the sole dispositor as well as the ruler of the ascendant. (As far as I can see, there are no significant aspects between either of these planet and Sun or Moon.)
Indeed, I feel very much afflicted by the tension that is said to come with the Venus-square-Saturn aspect. I just read Sue Tomkins' _Aspects_in_Astrology_, and the accuracy of her interpretation of this aspect was at times chilling, not to mention a bit of a downer. However, she did not of course deal with specific issues of Disposition or Ascendant Rulership in her interpretation of Venus-Saturn contacts.
(2) Technically, Venus in Aries is in Detriment, although she does have dignity by Face in the final degrees of this sign. Furthermore, she enters happy Rulership in Taurus less than 12 hours after my birth time. So how does this affect Venus's status? Does this have anything to say about how Venus might hold up (or stand up?) to Saturn? ...To be honest, my Venus feels Arian -- a lone ember smoldering in a sign of Fire, hidden away in the 12th house! But I'm wondering if there's an "official" astrological position concerning the status of planets sitting on such fences.
So to sum up, I'm wondering if someone with experience in these matters would kindly help me gain some clarity on these facts. In particular -- what is the meaning of these two distinct types of "chart rulers" hierarchically opposed in the dispositor trail? Please help me put these astrological facts into perspective. I need closure, I need to move on!
Thank you so much in advance,
j
My ascendant is Taurus, whose ruler is VENUS in last few minutes of Aries.
On the other hand, I have a sole, final dispositor of SATURN in Capricorn, conjunct Mid-heaven. As I understand this, Saturn therefore commands the other planets in my chart; or conversely, all the other planets in my chart "report" to Saturn. (I worked out my dispositor trail under the assumption that only personal/traditional planets could rule, and that outer/modern planets could only be ruled, and not themselves rule.)
Now here's where I'm in over my head:
(1) the LOWEST planet in my dispositor hierarchy is none other than Venus (ruler of ascendant). So my two apparent "chart rulers" are at OPPOSITE extremes of my dispositor trail. There is definite tension between these two planets, as low-ranking Venus SQUARES commander Saturn with an orb of ZERO degrees (and separating). I don't think it's controversial to say that this is one of the most important aspects in my chart, as it involves the sole dispositor as well as the ruler of the ascendant. (As far as I can see, there are no significant aspects between either of these planet and Sun or Moon.)
Indeed, I feel very much afflicted by the tension that is said to come with the Venus-square-Saturn aspect. I just read Sue Tomkins' _Aspects_in_Astrology_, and the accuracy of her interpretation of this aspect was at times chilling, not to mention a bit of a downer. However, she did not of course deal with specific issues of Disposition or Ascendant Rulership in her interpretation of Venus-Saturn contacts.
(2) Technically, Venus in Aries is in Detriment, although she does have dignity by Face in the final degrees of this sign. Furthermore, she enters happy Rulership in Taurus less than 12 hours after my birth time. So how does this affect Venus's status? Does this have anything to say about how Venus might hold up (or stand up?) to Saturn? ...To be honest, my Venus feels Arian -- a lone ember smoldering in a sign of Fire, hidden away in the 12th house! But I'm wondering if there's an "official" astrological position concerning the status of planets sitting on such fences.
So to sum up, I'm wondering if someone with experience in these matters would kindly help me gain some clarity on these facts. In particular -- what is the meaning of these two distinct types of "chart rulers" hierarchically opposed in the dispositor trail? Please help me put these astrological facts into perspective. I need closure, I need to move on!
Thank you so much in advance,
j
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