Originally Posted by Jenna Jupiter
But i have to admit i'm still tempted. Not sure i'm allowed to write here but i would consider my Conjunction as 50% good and 50% bad. With Neptune in fifth house, this is even more true.
Everyhing i do, i need to do it much or not at all.
Jenna your comments are welcome. The conjunction can be considered a hard aspect too, for some people at least. If anything it has more potential that that of the square.
Originally Posted by Steeler
Im very good at controlling myself when Im out with people, talking and such...But when it comes to controlling my fears and such, it's IMPOSSIBLE. And because I have a strong Saturn/Pluto I have the need to be able to control everything about myself, and when I can't = anxiety.
Steeler, I sympathise with this in a way... but I have come to realise that these "FEARS" which are extremely real when you feel them... are often something that I have created in my own mind and which are not really based on reality, but on past experiences, which are triggered simply by a look, or a innocent comment... quite innocent... yet in my mind it snowballs... especially when drunk.... totally uncontrolable when drunk.
I think the combination here is imagination combined with drive.... my mind can come to some conclusions which are propelled forwards by Mars... you feel like you are under ATTACK, that's the thing, and you are confused because you can't work out if it is an attack or if it is innocent, or what it is. And this creates the emotion of fear which can cause the imagination to play around with whatever idea it fixes itself on.
Incidentally the traditional US chart has Mars-Neptune square... which I always thought... makes sense for a country which suffers certain paranoid tendencies.... war on the bases of lies...(recently in Iraq) War without ability to get out...(Vietnam)... without knowing the enemy (war on terror).... War against an ideology of communism... you can't get more Mars square Neptune than that... fighting against an idea or a ideal? Fighting for an ideal... Democracy. Yes there are other charts but just for the purposes it seems fit.