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Old 08-29-2008, 02:59 AM
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Re: self-doubt and Mars-Neptune

Firstly Aquarius7000, don't be sorry about asking me questions, I am just pleased that someone has answered my thread, sometimes I'll write an essay and no-one replies. So thank you and also a substantial reply too.


Sometimes i have to put up a face or an attitude of being tough. People are tough. People will step on you and push you out the way if you don't speak with confidence, stand straight and maybe swagger a little. When I don't do my best at that "act" of manliness of being a cock so to speak, i get shoved out the way, off the bus, ignored etc. etc. It must be an act, because I am not strong or confident at all... On the other hand I feel i am direct and open with people... which is not an act at all. I guess Virgo is a slightly weaker sign... but mentally may be where the strength goes rather than the physical body, not musclely or macho. Napoleon had Mars in Virgo... he was short and not exactly a male pin up, but conquered Europe. GW Bush has Virgo Mars and is confident in a Republican way and Barack Obama of course is Mars Virgo... which is angular in 7th... and he comes across as confident, yet maybe a little nervous, though i don't know much about him.

I always pass out for a blood test.

Your questions: Neptune IC... I lived most my life in a seaside town. Grew up with the sound of waves crashing in the background far off.

The Religious thing... My Mama is Catholic, and I have been brought up with some religion in my blood. I don't blame religion for my problems though. I do however acknowledge that the IC is most connected to the father and mother, and they have both been undermining to my self confidence. But I cannot "escape" them. They have both lied to me in some big ways. They have acted and spoken in their interests which have not been helpful to me. Feel undermined by them. But this is PAST. This will not help move forward.


Neptune is also beneficial in some ways, it is trine Moon, placed in 8th. As Neptune rules 7th and Moon rules 11th, i think it should play out well for some relationships and friendships too.


As you supposed I am tall and fairly thin. Virgo rises with mercury in Sag 3rd. I can give you my natal chart if you want.


But I'd like to return back to Neptune. Neptune has a pointy thing, TRIDENT. While Pluto doesn't and I always thought of neptune as more of a sensitive planet rather than harmful. Harmful only in combination I suppose...

I also have dependency problems with parents. I don't know whether it's me that depends on them financially or them that are depending on me to look after them. I feel they hold me back sometimes, selfishly, but then feel blamed for being unable to get away and stand on my own feet. They have a habit of blaming. This is maybe too personal and maybe should stick to the forms of Mars-Neptune. What other kind of men/women have Mars Neptune or even venus Neptune contacts?

I found Ernest Hemingway has mars in Virgo in the 1st square Neptune in 10th. But Pluto and Saturn also square Mars which is not my case. He was a "man's writer"

There are various people with this aspect. That I have found.

What I was interested in to begin with though was this self-confidence thing. Mars in my chart is trine Chiron fairly tight. To look elsewhere. But I don't know how chiron is supposed to strengthen anything through positive aspects...

And then saturn is the self doubt planet which is in 2nd house exactly square Ascendant. I seem to be back at the beginning again.
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