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Old 03-21-2006, 06:06 AM
C Jayne C Jayne is offline
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Originally Posted by Arian Maverick
First of all, I appologize for my long-overdue response to your post, C Jayne.

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What I learned was, having Mercuries that are conjunct simply means you hear each other loud and clear, it doesn't necessarily mean you understand each other! He was a fragile person and a liar and I maybe walked with cleats on and was perhaps naively honest. I heard what he told me, but what he told me was lies, and sometimes I wanted to hear lies, so I didn't hear past that.
Due to the nature of my brother's condition, I do not believe that he understands the concept of lying, no less is he able to put it into practice. However, your experience with the relationship between conjunct Mercuries in a synastry chart--especially the idea that hearing and understanding are two very different things--was well taken.

Although I have already posted our corrected synastry chart in the thread titled I Have Been Using The Wrong Natal Chart This Entire Time!!!, I will also upload it here for convenience.

Arian Maverick


Dear AM,

I am adding Shawn's individual chart, because I need to be able to just look at it, by itself.

You and I are writing these things at a time when the server appears to be having some problems, so your individual chart is not available.

As I look over his chart now, a thought that comes to mind for me is, if Shawn were still able-bodied, the two of you -- it seems -- might really get under each other's skin! he's got that Capricorn stuff squaring all your Aries planets, and then he's a Taurus Sun, which is just so different from you with your Arieis/ Gemini mix!

Do his Earthy planets make you feel completed, or does it drive you crazy that he's so pokey and slow (or at least, his chart says he would be pokey and slow)?

Interestingly, each of you has Uranus conjunct the Midheaven (ironically, like the ex-husband I mentioned). This combination makes a person be a bit of a "loose cannon" -- someone who does things their own way, making a career out of being kind of off-center or unpredictable or even violent (the ex-husband had violent tantrums).

With you and your brother, you each have this thing -- which would suggest you probably don't hate each other for any outbursts, since you each have them.

I'm so tempted here to ask questions that aren't appropriate on a forum, like, how long ago was his accident? and, is the term "autistic" really accurate, from various statements of yours I've read on some of the other forums? I mentioned Temple Grandin in error -- she's a true "autistic," not from an accident, as with Shawn's medicine snafu.

Well, Shawn's chart shows his Saturn opposing his Venus -- fear of love, fear of happiness, deeply wounded somehow and now can be very cold, emotionally. Also, someone more knowledgable about Chiron and Black Lilith should comment on how those two are clustered right there with Shawn's Venus. Venus is the focal planet of a Yod, and with Gemini Venus in the 3rd house opposing Saturn, this guy would not want to form attachments to women even if he were physically well -- he would want variety or he would be afraid of intimacy.

With his Mars/ Moon conjunct, what he's attracted to, sexually (rather than emotionally, as with Venus, above) is a mother-figure, someone who nurtures him, which shows up on your chart with your Moon/Asc conjunct. (I'm not implying here that your brother has the "wrong" kind of feelings toward you -- just that nurturing is what he likes.)

With Jupiter sitting right on his Pisces Ascendant, he approaches things in a way both naive and pitiful -- he feels rather fragile, and would not mind letting someone take care of him -- and then he's got that cranky Mars/Moon combination in Capricorn, making him both pushy and critical -- and then the Taurus Sun, making him both stubborn and tolerant, but (Sun opposes Pluto) he wants control!

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Your combined charts -- I hadn't noticed this before -- show his Saturn opposing your Mars, and your Saturn opposing his Mars. In a normal relationship, this would be bad, but since you are more like a caretaker to him, maybe this creates some kind of stability -- balance -- between you.
Like, "I won't hit you if you don't hit me" kind of thing, or something.

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Back to your question about your conjunct Mercuries:

It was probably either Stephen Arroyo or Liz Greene who wrote that two people can work out the problems between them if they've got good interaction between their Mercuries. That's why your combined Mercuries are so interesting here. There are plenty of reasons for you to have difficulty between you, but you're trapped in the same small space (one nuclear family) and your Mercuries are connected. So, even without words, you "connect."

I used to know a married guy who sort of fell in love with a female friend because she understood how he felt about things before he was even able to put his ideas into words. He had me do their charts. Then it was clear: her Moon and his Mercury conjuncted -- and he had nothing this good with his own wife, although in the end, he decided his first commitment was to her and not to the other woman.

Your brother's Mercury conjuncts not only your Mercury, but also that whole cluster of yours in Aries. Someone whose planets are not "conjoined" as yours are (how did this get so long-winded?) has an easier time understanding the meaning of each individual planet -- Moon versus Sun, etc. You're at a disadvantage here -- for you, almost everything is Aries!

Hope that helps! -- CJ
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