Originally Posted by unukalhai
Possibly the experience helped lead to a more stable, practical, and logical (Virgo, opposite of Pisces) sense of higher abstract reasoning, philosophical expression, or religion (9th house)? There are, of course, other meanings to both the 9th and Pisces, so don't be shy to do the synthesis on your own. It would probably be good to read up on Pisces and the 9th from a few different authors to freshen up your concepts regarding these two placements. As humans, we tend to focus in on certain areas of archetypes, sometimes forgetting the bigger picture... I know I've been guilty of this. You may say "but how big just can these two things be"... well, both are classically ruled by Jupiter.. so realllllly big!
And Yoi... The first step to integrating a conscious understanding of Chiron is to forget "good" and "bad" -- These are dualistic concepts, the very sort of thinking Chiron wants to free us from. Everything in Chiron's domain has a purpose, and is all part of a cosmic shamanic experience.
Who's to say Venus and Jupiter are all good? The classical concept that these two "benefics" can do no harm is better off forgotten
I have the placement of Chiron in this axis as you so elquently describe. Having it exactly trine my ascendant and having a spirtual awakining when it was exactly on my Mercury in Taurus opened my mind to a higher source of being than myself. Being brought up to believe in Jesus ,but not forced into organised religion I had never explored the deeper meaning of our existance. The wounding that we experience can be healed through the wisdom that can be shown to us through the despair of Neptune,Pluto and Chiron.
If you know the writings of the likes of Jung and a few others that have studied the meaning behind philosphical teachings of why we are here then you can find that we all share a common ground of wandering for a meaning and substance to our lives. It can be found within ourselves and truely live.Weather we believe in a religious philosophy or not we can find common ground to believe in .We are all connected to a certain extent.
Jupiter has a bigger meaning then luck IMO.It has the deep meaning of life or living for a purpose that is bigger than ourselves. Venus can reflect a deeper meaning of love and compassion for those that are different than ourselves.
Yes,Good & Bad are not truely pure meaning.Yet there is pain that cannot be healed as the loss of a loved one or the betrayal by one we love.Seeing another in pain. These things are not construed as being benefits ,but then again they can lead to vehicles for growth through pain.However hard or harsh that may sound.
I often say we miss the spirit of those we love.Their laugh,their talk,their smile. These things cannot be forgotten yet we go on.
That is the essential realities behind what the boundries of Chiron,Satrurn and Uranus can lead to IMO. Uranus shocks us into the knowing while Saturn shows us the limitations and they are thrust upon us when Chiron has enlightened our mind. This last part is kinda hard to explain in language to understand astrologically.
If you wish to see when my awakening happened you can look at my chart and the tansits for 8\10\80 2am LA,CA. time.My birthtime is 5\13\60 8:12am NYC 2Can Asc.