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Old 02-21-2011, 10:18 PM
Svencanz Svencanz is offline
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Re: The Saturn transit effect: does retro. differ from direct?

Hi Ethertwist,

“I'm really curious how you define the "science" outcome of a Saturn transit? It makes me think of Tarot and the Thoth deck 6 of Swords (the Lord of Science), which is all about healing and recovery.”

There’s no better illustration of this than the story of the Columbia and the Discovery space shuttles. My Saturn values again: Tragedy (default value) control, and science.

The launch astrology of Columbia and Discovery were similar, they’d have to be – both are rockets. Applies to first launch also (their ‘birth charts’).

The astrology of the Columbia disaster is fantastic – have harped on about this before, apologies to all. But I really mean it....

The problem of the heat shield applied to both space shuttles: for Columbia, the problem wasn’t even noted – and this resulted in Tragedy (Saturn’s default value.)
Discovery’s problem was noted, occurred at launch. It was visible on video.
So, the astronauts took control of their situation, executed a space walk and repaired the heat shield – control and science, right?
Discovery landed unharmed.

When it comes to aspects and transits, each planet has a set of meanings, symbolisms – and you can ‘pick’ one that you’d like to focus on. That’s like paying homage to the planet, its energies. Sort of like Saturn saying: “I am now comining into your life...”
If you ignore that – or if you don’t even hear it – the Saturn is most likely to bring Tragedy. If you, however, acknowledge this, and say: “Welcome, for our time together this time, I’d like to focus on the scientific side of astrology/homeopathy/space travel/ or stock car racing...” (pick one)
Then Saturn will say: “Great, let’s to that!”


I’m not overly familiar with the Thoth deck, but ‘the Lord of Science’ is a great name, concept. The merging, reconciliation of the Lovers is a suitable image, and the ‘choice’ factor inherent in the Six cards. And as illustrated by the Columbia and Discovery story, Awareness is required.
The standard Six of Swords shows travelling to calmer waters. Both course and action is required (control).

“Rowing is only a magical ceremony by means of which one compels a demon to move the ship” – Freidrich Nietzsche

Don’t know how much old Nietzsche knew about Saturn, but this is a lovely statement. The idea of paying homage to a demon through a magical ceremony.
I know many people who haven’t paid this homage, who’d certainly sign a statement that ‘Saturn is demon.’

Cheers,
Sven
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