obama's untimely death?!?!?!?

[Hades]

after glancing at obama's solar birth chart, it became increasingly distressing to me that america's only legit would-be president in decades is in grave danger...

mccain is jestering for obama to visit iraq. i believe this jester is for corrupt purposes. i think the current republican party of the USA is incredibley shady...

i dont think one needs to look further than obama's solar chart and the current transits...

obama has chiron in his solar 8th house- which means (according to a book i have) that his death will be of public knowledge. if you know the nature of chiron- i dont think its going to be of old age...

transiting mars/saturn will be conjunct his natal pluto which is opposite his natal chiron, forming a T square with pluto's current postion... ...around the time he plans on heading to iraq for this visit mccain is so suspiciously insistant on.

now if this isnt a BAD indication for an untimely death than i dont know what to say. cuz in my 15 years experience of astrology- im horrified!

also- after reading robert hands interpretations of mars and saturn conjunct pluto- there is even more info for concern. both mention problems with violence and health... an experienced astrologer can make that educated guess without hand's book.

hopefully with pluto being in capricorn- the corruption and truth will come to the surface. if of course anything does happen like ive described.

p.s. are we noticing the amount of earthquakes since pluto has been in capricorn? one in iceland two days ago...

[Hades]

ok, in this book it mentions-

saturn conjunct pluto- "sometimes government or other officials will impose heavy burdens that greatly restrict you freedom of movement. it is also possible that some accident may affect your health"

now, i have this feeling, while obama is in iraq he will have limited protection. these "officials" will purposely limit his protection so he is more vulnerable to an "insurgent attack"

i have a feeling pluto will bring this info to light and lead cause for more investigation. the fact that he had petty protection!

call me paranoid, call me a left wing conspiracy theorist, call me whatever. but as more and more info comes to the surface regarding the bush administrations corruption- i dont think theres any reason to ignore this!

[blueheron]

O'bama's Vedic chart does not show an early death. What you're seeing could be a near-miss though. I don't trust McCain et al either.

But his Vedic shows a normal lifepspan. (Venus, lagna lord in the 8th is good for longevity.)

[Hades]

so are you using his moon as the first house?

look i think vedic astrology is great but when it comes to the overall big picture of ones life path- the solar birth chart is always going to provide the obvious.

just consider the symbolism here- everything rotates around the sun!!!!

i was hoping for more input from members. im not trying to spur on any panic, just some varied opinions...

with pluto's current position i guess i over looked the accuracy of the square to his natal chiron but the opposition is still there...

[Hades]

wow... nobody has any input???

[Hades]

that was an accident!!!!!!

[Arian Maverick]

that was an accident!!!!!!

Don't worry; I've deleted the extras ;)

Arian Maverick

[blueheron]

so are you using his moon as the first house?

look i think vedic astrology is great but when it comes to the overall big picture of ones life path- the solar birth chart is always going to provide the obvious. <snip>

Gotta disagree with that one. :(

[Hades]

Gotta disagree with that one. :(

is the moon's location considered the first house?

thank you AM for deleting those...

also pluto is opposite his natal venus. but i think this could be an indication of the separations he's having to make from his idiotic pastors, who knows?

i just find it more relevant (solar charts) especially since every magazine's horoscope sections are based on sun signs.

[Hades]

just so you all know-

iam only worried about obama's safety if he heads to iraq in early july...

[EJ53]

just so you all know-

iam only worried about obama's safety if he heads to iraq in early july...

Hi Hades,

This thread appears to have led to another being created on the Horary board :-

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9922

EJ:)

[Matthew The Astrologer]

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look i think vedic astrology is great but when it comes to the overall big picture of ones life path- the solar birth chart is always going to provide the obvious.
...

I've always thought of death as being a noteworthy part of the "life path." ;)

http://matthewastrology.blogspot.com/2008/08/isaac-hayes-and-astrology-of-death.html


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[BobZemco]

wow... nobody has any input???
Well, it's a waste of time obsessing over a flat chart.

His reported birth time is 1:06 pm. Based on that chart, his Sun is Hyleg and has no Alcoccoden, so his life span is slightly less than normal at about 67 years.

On Election Day 2008 the Sun will be in his natal 12th House, but will transit to form an exact conjunction with the Ascendant on November 9th, 2008. I believe the results of the election may be delayed until November 11th, so that's kind of wierd.

Also, on January 20, 2009, his progressed Sun will be in his natal 11th House. I use a Sagittarius rising chart for the USA, but not the Sibley Chart, and according to my chart, that puts Obama's progressed Sun in the US natal 10th House square the US natal Sun in the 7th. The orb is 29' of arc. Also his progressed Sun is conjunct the US MC (orb 27' arc).

That's one of those cases where a square does not mean tension, it represents a turning point in one's life.

Too bad he won't be re-elected.

[AquariusT]

after glancing at obama's solar birth chart, it became increasingly distressing to me that america's only legit would-be president in decades is in grave danger...

mccain is jestering for obama to visit iraq. i believe this jester is for corrupt purposes. i think the current republican party of the USA is incredibley shady...

i dont think one needs to look further than obama's solar chart and the current transits...

obama has chiron in his solar 8th house- which means (according to a book i have) that his death will be of public knowledge. if you know the nature of chiron- i dont think its going to be of old age...

transiting mars/saturn will be conjunct his natal pluto which is opposite his natal chiron, forming a T square with pluto's current postion... ...around the time he plans on heading to iraq for this visit mccain is so suspiciously insistant on.

now if this isnt a BAD indication for an untimely death than i dont know what to say. cuz in my 15 years experience of astrology- im horrified!

also- after reading robert hands interpretations of mars and saturn conjunct pluto- there is even more info for concern. both mention problems with violence and health... an experienced astrologer can make that educated guess without hand's book.

hopefully with pluto being in capricorn- the corruption and truth will come to the surface. if of course anything does happen like ive described.

p.s. are we noticing the amount of earthquakes since pluto has been in capricorn? one in iceland two days ago...

Quite the alarmist post! I must admit that you have pretty strong accusations there, no?

Also, when did Pluto go into Cappy? Is my Maynard Celestial guide wrong???

Obama is not going to win, no worries ;) Plus his birthtime is 7:24 pm given on his website, disussed here already. Whenever he does die, it will be public knowledge, since he has had some time in the public eye.

Solar charts are the psychological chart of the person.

The sky is not falling. Relax.

[Claire19]

Pluto is going back and forth into Cap and back to Sagittarius, yes.
I wonder why they call Obama black when he is half white??? This never seems to get mentioned. They are really overplaying the race card.

The American presidents traditionally get selected not elected. THe voting system is corrupt and we all know it.

[swanlimbus]

censoring my private mail now Radu?