Think outside the box horary

[wintersprite1]

I asked this question last night... intuitively I can not shake the feeling he is going to end up living with me. I titled this thinking outside the box, cause when I first looked at the chart I was thinking... nah, intuition is off on this one. Then I looked at it again this morning and went, wait a minute.....

Date 7th of May, 2008
Security, Colorado
11:36 pm 104w45 38n46

To look at if the chart is radical... The Asc on this chart is Conj his natal Saturn, Chart's Mars Conj his Vesta (home and hearth) , Chart NN Conj his Chiron... these are the exact degrees... so I am thinking, yeah something here in this chart better look again.

So I am Saturn (WOOT so glad direct) in the 8th in Mercury's term. There is no real aspect from or to Saturn at the time.... hmmm 8th is other's possessions... hmmm so I dig further. He is the Moon in Gemini in the 6th. The Moon is VOC. The Moon has just left term in Saturn and now in Mars. The Moon's next planetary aspect (after changing signs will be to Saturn :) So I am thinking... maybe a yes, but other conditions must happen first. So taking a look at the 4th and the turned 4th... the home. Mars is in the 7th and in detriment, but at a critical degree about to change over to the sign Leo (Sun found in my 4th) again suggesting other events must take place. His 4th house lord is Venus found in my 4th! Venus is dignified and in Mercury's term and face. Now back to the Moon... it will sextile/trine the 4th/10th axis next in exactly 1 degree.

I am thinking that my intuition wasn't off at all here... anyone else want to take a stab at this?

TK

[lillyjgc]

Wintersprite1,
I'll take a look at this and get back to you.
Cheers,Lillyjgc

[lillyjgc]

Wintersprite1,
I take you as being ruled by Saturn and your ruler is in the eighth house,which is ruled by the sun. To me this is describing your wanting to *pool* resources with the quesited. Saturn is the natural co-significator of the eighth but the eighth in horary is an unfortunate house.Luckily, Saturn moves direct motion, so less debilitated there.The ruler of the house your ruler is in, is the sun, posited in your fourth *the ending*, and this house is ruled by mars, who just happens to be in his first house, but late in the sign, and moving from cancer to Leo, where it will be more action oriented and interested in the affairs of the sun, which is the fifth house of romance and fun.

As always in horary, it is the moon who tells the story, and in this chart the moon rules you.
The moon is in his twelfth but after it changes sign ( in 4 units of time)it will sextile your ruler Saturn.At this point in time however, the moon is not aspecting Saturn.The moon is in Mercury's sign (communication,thoughts) and your ruler is also in mercury's sign, so there is some agreement there, but the moon is technically void of course, so I am thinking this outcome won't be a mutual living together, because that would require quite a change to the current circumstances, and a void moon does not usually produce such a change.

The moon will oppose Pluto before it sextiles Saturn, which may turn out to be an enforced change of plan.
The moon is trine to his fourth house cusp (your tenth) and in the sign of cancer it does indicate the theme of homes, at least for him.
His co-ruler is in your fourth and it applies a trine to Jupiter, in your first.But jupiter will be retrograde when that occurs, so a trine followed by both planets moving away from each other.What also worries me is that venus approaching combustion with the sun (his co-ruler).
Now, Venus rules your fifth, his eleventh....and his fourth-his home, and your tenth.

I will be interested in what form this *combustion* will manifest here. Part of me acknowledges that Venus gets burned by the sun, another part of my mind is imagining what happens when the ruler of your fifth gets together with his co-ruler!
The answer to your question is not clear cut from where I stand.
Maybe I need to ask a question at this point: If you two were to live together, would you go to him, or he come to you? or would you both go *somewhere else*? if you can answer this question for me it may shed more light on the matter and hopefully I will be able to make a call one way or another!.
Good wishes to you.
Lillyjgc

[wintersprite1]

The answer to your question is not clear cut from where I stand.
Maybe I need to ask a question at this point: If you two were to live together, would you go to him, or he come to you? or would you both go *somewhere else*? if you can answer this question for me it may shed more light on the matter and hopefully I will be able to make a call one way or another!.
Good wishes to you.
Lillyjgc

Hi Lilly,

Thanks for having a look and the interpretation. I just started looking at terms and faces and such so took off with this chart like a kid who's training wheels have been removed. The thing that caught my eye and wondering with the chart was the Moon aspecting the 10/4 axis.

Honestly, I do not know... this was strictly an intuitive thought, not anything that had been mentioned or considered. My 4th lord being Mars in fall was no surprise, especially about to move into Leo... I have been heavy duty repairing my house and just about "there". LOL I would imagine it would be a culture shock for him... my house is only 844 sqft and his over 3000sqft. I have teenagers, his are all grown up, he has a lake across the street, I have drunken brawling neighbors, he has a ficus plant... I have a zoo in pets...

The thing is he has transit pluto going over his natal saturn and he has Transit Saturn going over his natal Pluto... then lovely Neptune steps up to the plate and will run a muck over his Sun. Since Pluto went rx, his life is dissolving infront of him... and I suspect he will have to sell his house (speculation on my part) There would be so many factors involved and variable I don't know, no surprise for the VOC Moon either.

Thanks again Lilly!

TK

[wintersprite1]

As always in horary, it is the moon who tells the story, and in this chart the moon rules you.
The moon is in his twelfth but after it changes sign ( in 4 units of time)it will sextile your ruler Saturn.At this point in time however, the moon is not aspecting Saturn.The moon is in Mercury's sign (communication,thoughts) and your ruler is also in mercury's sign, so there is some agreement there, but the moon is technically void of course, so I am thinking this outcome won't be a mutual living together, because that would require quite a change to the current circumstances, and a void moon does not usually produce such a change.

Lillyjgc


Lilly,

The ruler of the 7th is the Moon... so he would be the Moon and I would not have a Cosignificator. For it being hidden in the turned 12th yup yup... he pulls away and becomes invisable when dealing with stresses.

TK

[lillyjgc]

wintersprite1, Quite right. What I should have said is *and in this chart the moon rules him.* But the moon still tells us what will happen, which it cant do if it's not making any aspects.
Around May 12, the moon will conjunct Saturn, but the moon will have changed signs, so I don't know if this means you two will *get together*, make contact etc....Do keep us posted.
Thanks. Lillyjgc