Kunda-in-me
04-13-2008, 05:39 PM
I guess western scholars labeled Jyotish or Indian astrology "Vedic" astrology to suit their comprehension, as we know, the Vedas are a sacred scripture to the Hindus. The true way of describing this ancient practice is by saying 'jyotish' (pronounced: 'yo-tish' in sanskrit) (a prayer leader at a local hindu temple was slightly bothered when i said 'vedic') so anyway i'll try to call it here, Indian astrology. By the way, the Indians are the first civilizaton to have recorded/written their religion (i study religion). It is so vast, it is incomprehensible.
Here's an article to read about the difference between 'vedic' and western astrology, its an interesting read and you'll learn something new:
can't link yet, so on your browser type "lightonvedicastrology/articles-sidereal_tropical.htm"
(just trying to get around it for the sake of the post)
..the article is actually quite informative & not that bias toward western astrology. it emphasizes the strengths of each.
One important thing to note, is that if you want to study Indian astrology as I am doing little by little each day, one must also study the foundation, terminology used to describe planets/signs/houses, albeit they may sound religious, but more so they are spiritual.
They even have a way for doing Yoga positions to get the full beneficial effects from stars. So I guess a pose aligns oneself to the heavens, who knows haven't read much about it yet.
I like how they cast the chart too, cause there isn't lines coming from here and fro to connect symbols over your natal chart in a circle. Rather, there are square sized charts that locates the houses, the planets in each along with their signs. The dashas or what we call transits, are conveniently listed w/ [start date/yr/age/and dasha] or long-term transits of planets in relations to 'rashi' or general chart. Guess i'm bias for the most silly reasons.
When someone thinks of western astrology, one thinks its very psychological and deep, and when one thinks of vedic, you can say its more predictive, and yet both have what it takes. i prefer vedic although it seems western seems to give me a brighter future than vedic. guess i'll have to wait and see.
If you can't get to the link here's something interesting to find out:
"The Sidereal vs. Tropical Debate
By Vaughn Paul Manley, M.A.
Copyright 2005. All Rights Reserved.
How to Calculate Your Vedic Chart -
Subtracting the Ayanamsha
Obtain a copy of your Western chart, if you dont have one already. Make a list of your planets and their degrees as shown below. Subtract the ayanamsha or 23 degrees from each tropical planetary position and the ascendant to get their Sidereal position.
Example Calculations:
Tropical Positions Sidereal Positions
Asc: 11 Gemini 23 = 18 Taurus
Sun: 14 Scorpio 23 = 21 Libra
Moon: 10 Virgo 23 = 17 Leo
Mercury: 28 Libra 23 = 5 Libra
Venus: 8 Libra 23 = 15 Virgo
Mars: 25 Capricorn 23 = 2 Capricorn
Jupiter: 9 Pisces 23 = 16 Aquarius
Saturn: 24 Aquarius 23 = 1 Aquarius
North Node: 18 Sagittarius 23 = 5 Scorpio
South Node: 18 Gemini 23 = 5 Taurus
(Optional)
Uranus: 24 Leo 23 = 1 Leo
Neptune: 3 Libra 23 = 10 Virgo
Pluto: 14 Virgo 23 = 21 Leo
An easy way to do this in your head, if the planets degrees are less than 23 degrees in any given sign, is to add 7 degrees and go back a sign. For example, if a planet is at 11 degrees Gemini then add 7 degrees and go back to Taurus. The Sidereal position would be 18 degrees Taurus.
If you want to get the exact position of the planet down to the minute then get out a calculator and calculate the exact ayanamsha of the year and month you were born.
Use the following dates for the ayanamsha as a starting point:
January 1st 1940 - 23 degrees 01 minutes
January 1st 1950 - 23 degrees 09 minutes
January 1st 1960 - 23 degrees 18 minutes
January 1st 1970 - 23 degrees 26 minutes
January 1st 1980 - 23 degrees 34 minutes
Use these approximate figures:
4 minutes 11 seconds per 5 years
1 minute 40 seconds per 2 years
50 seconds per 1 year
4 seconds per month"
noted by 'lightonvedicastrology' online
Here's an article to read about the difference between 'vedic' and western astrology, its an interesting read and you'll learn something new:
can't link yet, so on your browser type "lightonvedicastrology/articles-sidereal_tropical.htm"
(just trying to get around it for the sake of the post)
..the article is actually quite informative & not that bias toward western astrology. it emphasizes the strengths of each.
One important thing to note, is that if you want to study Indian astrology as I am doing little by little each day, one must also study the foundation, terminology used to describe planets/signs/houses, albeit they may sound religious, but more so they are spiritual.
They even have a way for doing Yoga positions to get the full beneficial effects from stars. So I guess a pose aligns oneself to the heavens, who knows haven't read much about it yet.
I like how they cast the chart too, cause there isn't lines coming from here and fro to connect symbols over your natal chart in a circle. Rather, there are square sized charts that locates the houses, the planets in each along with their signs. The dashas or what we call transits, are conveniently listed w/ [start date/yr/age/and dasha] or long-term transits of planets in relations to 'rashi' or general chart. Guess i'm bias for the most silly reasons.
When someone thinks of western astrology, one thinks its very psychological and deep, and when one thinks of vedic, you can say its more predictive, and yet both have what it takes. i prefer vedic although it seems western seems to give me a brighter future than vedic. guess i'll have to wait and see.
If you can't get to the link here's something interesting to find out:
"The Sidereal vs. Tropical Debate
By Vaughn Paul Manley, M.A.
Copyright 2005. All Rights Reserved.
How to Calculate Your Vedic Chart -
Subtracting the Ayanamsha
Obtain a copy of your Western chart, if you dont have one already. Make a list of your planets and their degrees as shown below. Subtract the ayanamsha or 23 degrees from each tropical planetary position and the ascendant to get their Sidereal position.
Example Calculations:
Tropical Positions Sidereal Positions
Asc: 11 Gemini 23 = 18 Taurus
Sun: 14 Scorpio 23 = 21 Libra
Moon: 10 Virgo 23 = 17 Leo
Mercury: 28 Libra 23 = 5 Libra
Venus: 8 Libra 23 = 15 Virgo
Mars: 25 Capricorn 23 = 2 Capricorn
Jupiter: 9 Pisces 23 = 16 Aquarius
Saturn: 24 Aquarius 23 = 1 Aquarius
North Node: 18 Sagittarius 23 = 5 Scorpio
South Node: 18 Gemini 23 = 5 Taurus
(Optional)
Uranus: 24 Leo 23 = 1 Leo
Neptune: 3 Libra 23 = 10 Virgo
Pluto: 14 Virgo 23 = 21 Leo
An easy way to do this in your head, if the planets degrees are less than 23 degrees in any given sign, is to add 7 degrees and go back a sign. For example, if a planet is at 11 degrees Gemini then add 7 degrees and go back to Taurus. The Sidereal position would be 18 degrees Taurus.
If you want to get the exact position of the planet down to the minute then get out a calculator and calculate the exact ayanamsha of the year and month you were born.
Use the following dates for the ayanamsha as a starting point:
January 1st 1940 - 23 degrees 01 minutes
January 1st 1950 - 23 degrees 09 minutes
January 1st 1960 - 23 degrees 18 minutes
January 1st 1970 - 23 degrees 26 minutes
January 1st 1980 - 23 degrees 34 minutes
Use these approximate figures:
4 minutes 11 seconds per 5 years
1 minute 40 seconds per 2 years
50 seconds per 1 year
4 seconds per month"
noted by 'lightonvedicastrology' online