My Afflicted Venus

[Junke]

Alright, so I have no idea how to interpret the Venus in my chart. Even though it is in it's Fall, it recieves only good aspects, and it's placed in a good house for it.

So what does it mean to have Venus in Fall (conjunct Jupiter in detriment) ? Is it just totally all bad for a planet to be in it's Fall sign, or does it mean something different?

[Junke]

Venus may be in Fall but with conjunct Jupiter, you must be quite charismatic. Do you draw people to you easily?

I don't really know how to answer that.It'd be really conceited if I said yes, but I don't really know if it's no.. I guess I don't know.

[wilsontc]

Junke,

You said:
what does it mean to have Venus in Fall (conjunct Jupiter in detriment)

I am confused. Venus is in fall in the sign of Virgo. Jupiter is in Detriment in the sign of Gemini. There is no way in this situation for Venus and Jupiter to be conjunct. Please give the sign and house of Venus and the sign and house of Jupiter.

Confused,

Tim

[Claire19]

Alright, so I have no idea how to interpret the Venus in my chart. Even though it is in it's Fall, it recieves only good aspects, and it's placed in a good house for it.

So what does it mean to have Venus in Fall (conjunct Jupiter in detriment) ? Is it just totally all bad for a planet to be in it's Fall sign, or does it mean something different?

Planets in detriment or fall just means that they are not in the sign that expresses their nature naturally or easily. If your Venus receives good aspects in a compatible house this compensates greatly. I am guessing it must be in Aries or Scorpio????? But having Venus in these signs is not necessarily a negative thing at all. For instance if you have your Mars in LIbra which is in its fall, as it belongs to Aries, that can mean you are not so aggressive or the blunt selfish side can be tempered and made more refined and agreeable. I dont use the terms detriment or fall or such like. I think they can be misleading.

[Junke]

Jupiter is in detriment in Virgo, also. I consider Jupiter to rule Pisces.

[wilsontc]

Junke,

Thanks for explaining!

Understanding,

Tim

[AquaAqua]

I have a H9 Venus in Capricorn

- Squaring Saturn, Mars and Pluto
- Opposing North Node

Would that make my venus afflicted?

Aqua

[hermetic]

Junke, I would think Venus conj Jupiter would be quite fortunate, especially in a material sense. You didn't write what house this conjunction placed but I'd say conjunction to Jupiter would release at least some of bad stuff brought on by detriment.
It could be argued whether Jupiter is badly placed in Virgo, but judging from some charts, it seems to work quite well there.

I would consider this aspect similar to having Venus Jupiter conjunction in 6th house, luck and gains, but perhaps also lazyness in work area...

Aqua, you Venus is indeed very afflicted by those planets, and since it is the ruler of your Asc, you are probably feeling it significantly. Venus(along with Saturn) is also final dispositor in your chart and conjunct SN -> being placed in Capricorn is not bad position for Venus, but considering NN position I would suggest trying to move forward from Venus.
In practice that means going from love of philosophy and knowledge in a rigid, rational sense toward more relaxed and open communication and gaining and providing nurturance within your close surroundings. NN in Cancer in 3rd probably wishes this. Both NN and Venus are squared by Saturn so this will take time and frustration of you.
Venus and Saturn are in mutual reception, and this eases the square a bit, I think.

[AquaAqua]

Aqua, you Venus is indeed very afflicted by those planets, and since it is the ruler of your Asc, you are probably feeling it significantly. Venus(along with Saturn) is also final dispositor in your chart and conjunct SN -> being placed in Capricorn is not bad position for Venus, but considering NN position I would suggest trying to move forward from Venus.
In practice that means going from love of philosophy and knowledge in a rigid, rational sense toward more relaxed and open communication and gaining and providing nurturance within your close surroundings. NN in Cancer in 3rd probably wishes this. Both NN and Venus are squared by Saturn so this will take time and frustration of you.
Venus and Saturn are in mutual reception, and this eases the square a bit, I think.

:(

Well yes i have been conciously trying to be receptive to my north node influences, so i hope its going to do me good.

BTW add Uranus in H7 to this and i have almost given up all hope of a 'peacful and loving' relationship!

Thanks for answering the query Hermetic

Aqua

[MTTY05]

I've got a pretty bad Venus. Venus in Virgo, square Saturn, combust Sun..:mad:

[CappyLeo]

MTTY05...how neat, you're chart looks like mine upside down - or the opposite.

If I could take a shot at how the venus squaring saturn has played out. Were there considerable strains between the parents? Almost like a role reversal with the mother dominating or butting heads with the father? Or did you grow-up without parents? Are you accused by your lovers or even family, of beeing unfeeling or wanting to control the relationships - virgo? Do you talk about your close relationships as if you're talking about an object - void of emotions?

I'd really like to look at your chart a little closer with my notes. Could be quite the learning experience not so much because of your aspects but the reverse nature compared to mine.

[poshslob]

My Venus is pretty terrible!!

Venus in Virgo. No trines or sextiles.
Square Neptune.
Semisquare Saturn
Semisquare Uranus
Sesquidrate Chiron
Sesquidrate Jupiter

Is there any hope for me?!?!

[hermetic]

Is there any hope for me?!?!

always ;)

check out this thread http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14442

[MTTY05]

If I could take a shot at how the venus squaring saturn has played out. Were there considerable strains between the parents? Almost like a role reversal with the mother dominating or butting heads with the father? Or did you grow-up without parents?

Well, there are strains between my parents, especially my Dad, we are quite distant. Not physically, but emotionally. I talked to my mother only once with around my 15th birthday, and she lied to me constantly during our one and only telephone conversation. The main female family influence in my life is my grandma, and that relationship is tense as well.



Are you accused by your lovers or even family, of beeing unfeeling or wanting to control the relationships - virgo? Do you talk about your close relationships as if you're talking about an object - void of emotions?

Some people in my family have accused me of being unfeeling, but they don't realize how deeply I feel. I don't make my feelings obvious to everyone bc I don't really feel that my feelings is any of their business.


I'd really like to look at your chart a little closer with my notes. Could be quite the learning experience not so much because of your aspects but the reverse nature compared to mine.

Really? In that case then I'd like to see your chart too!

[freedomlover]

My Venus is pretty terrible!!

Venus in Virgo. No trines or sextiles.
Square Neptune.
Semisquare Saturn
Semisquare Uranus
Sesquidrate Chiron
Sesquidrate Jupiter

Is there any hope for me?!?!

Poshslob,

You may want to take a closer look at and study up on those sesquiquadrate aspects. I've found that those can sometimes show the key to "why you're stuck". They can often present a series of hard adjustments - something that you just have to persevere and keep working on to get to the bottom of.

FL

[JayM]

You may want to take a closer look at and study up on those sesquiquadrate aspects. I've found that those can sometimes show the key to "why you're stuck". They can often present a series of hard adjustments - something that you just have to persevere and keep working on to get to the bottom of.

FL

Does my venus have any of them? Or any other planets? I am wondering because the statement you just said seems to register with me.

[gaer]

Does my venus have any of them? Or any other planets? I am wondering because the statement you just said seems to register with me.
Sesquiquadrate=135 degrees. It is 45 degress from an opposition.

You have the opposite kind, the semisquare, 45 degrees from conjunction.

Mercury SSq Pluto
Mars SSq Jupiter

And the one you may have been wondering about:

Venus SSq Sun

But for the feeling of being stuck, I'd look first to Mars and Moon square Saturn. :)

[freedomlover]

Does my venus have any of them? Or any other planets? I am wondering because the statement you just said seems to register with me.
No, your Venus does not have any sesquiquadrate aspects. However, upon taking a closer look at your chart, I believe there are one or two in there.

Your Sun in Capricorn is sesquiquadrate your North Node in Taurus (which is tightly conjunct Algol, btw)

Then, there is another possible one, which I think I would count - actually a dual sesquiquadrate from the same planet - Jupiter. The actual exact point of the sesquiquadrate from Jupiter would be your Chiron/IC midpoint. (I count aspects to the angles.) But I think either Chiron or the IC would be on the borderline of being counted towards the sesquiquadrate aspect. I would interpret it as such: Chiron in Gemini conjunct IC sesquiquadrate Jupiter in Capricorn.

Try combining these energies with the thought of a hard lesson that you really have to persevere to learn - "keep on keeping on". It can represent two energies that are very, very difficult to get together - they do not like each other at all, usually.

FL

[gaer]

No, your Venus does not have any sesquiquadrate aspects. However, upon taking a closer look at your chart, I believe there are one or two in there.

Your Sun in Capricorn is sesquiquadrate your North Node in Taurus (which is tightly conjunct Algol, btw)

I use a fairly tight orb for Ses (sesquiqadrate), a word that is on my top 10 list of works I hate to type. ;)

I was not using "points", so I did not include the NN, AC, MC. But if you are doing aspects to the NN, I would tend to count that. It is barely over 2 degrees.

If you open the orb up to three degrees, then Moon is Ses Neptune (at just under three degrees) and Jupiter is Ses Chiron, also at just under three degrees.

I focused on the semi-squares because the orbs of the aspects I mentioned (using planets only) were smaller. :)

[freedomlover]

I use a fairly tight orb for Ses (sesquiqadrate), a word that is on my top 10 list of works I hate to type. ;)

I was not using "points", so I did not include the NN, AC, MC. But if you are doing aspects to the NN, I would tend to count that. It is barely over 2 degrees.

If you open the orb up to three degrees, then Moon is Ses Neptune (at just under three degrees) and Jupiter is Ses Chiron, also at just under three degrees.

I focused on the semi-squares because the orbs of the aspects I mentioned (using planets only) were smaller. :) Thanks for clarifying that, gaer. I intended to amend my original post to say why I pointed this out, but the internet browser was messing up, and I couldn't get back in. I was intending to say that I pointed this out because the sesquiquadrates (on my "top 10", as well;)) weren't listed on Astrodienst for some reason. I thought they were saying that the aspects were quincunx(inconjunct) not sesquisquare. Now that you point them all out, I see that the little symbol that looks like a "Q" is not abbreviation for "quincunx", but for sesquisquare.
Learned something new here!:p

FL

[gaer]

Thanks for clarifying that, gaer. I intended to amend my original post to say why I pointed this out, but the internet browser was messing up, and I couldn't get back in. I was intending to say that I pointed this out because the sesquiquadrates (on my "top 10", as well;)) weren't listed on Astrodienst for some reason. I thought they were saying that the aspects were quincunx(inconjunct) not sesquisquare. Now that you point them all out, I see that the little symbol that looks like a "Q" is not abbreviation for "quincunx", but for sesquisquare.
Learned something new here!:p

FL
I have great trouble reading astrodienst charts. I'm not saying that anything is wrong with them. They are very good. But I have software tweaked to show aspects at orbs I use and with colors that make them instantly recognizable to me. So whenever I look at natal chart data, I always take a bit of extra time and put it in my own program, to view it in a way that is comfortable for me. :)

[Claire19]

Jupiter is in detriment in Virgo, also. I consider Jupiter to rule Pisces.Why would you consider Jupiter rules Pisces and leave out Neptune?????I agree it can be co ruler.

[Claire19]

I use a fairly tight orb for Ses (sesquiqadrate), a word that is on my top 10 list of works I hate to type. ;)

I was not using "points", so I did not include the NN, AC, MC. But if you are doing aspects to the NN, I would tend to count that. It is barely over 2 degrees.

If you open the orb up to three degrees, then Moon is Ses Neptune (at just under three degrees) and Jupiter is Ses Chiron, also at just under three degrees.

I focused on the semi-squares because the orbs of the aspects I mentioned (using planets only) were smaller. :)

I dont use sesquiquadrates at all. Does anyone really know the meaning of this minor aspect?? My advice is leave it alone and semi squares are not really meaningful either. Concentrating on the major aspects will give you all you want to know and less confusion and obfuscation.

[Claire19]

Does my venus have any of them? Or any other planets? I am wondering because the statement you just said seems to register with me.

You have a square to Venus from Saturn, and a sextile to Neptune and square to NN. The other aspects are too wide and not really valid. That narrows it down. These three aspects I would concentrate on only.
A wide trine to Pluto in the 8th which may give you an interest in the occult and metaphysical world along with the Neptune. You are ruled by Uranus so that can give the interest in astrological sciences.

[gaer]

I dont use sesquiquadrates at all. Does anyone really know the meaning of this minor aspect?? My advice is leave it alone and semi squares are not really meaningful either. Concentrating on the major aspects will give you all you want to know and less confusion and obfuscation.
I absolutely agree with the idea of concentrating on major aspects first, in general.

I do not agree that semi-squares are "not really meaningful".

For one thing, Venus can only be conjunct, semi-sextile or semi-square the Sun. Sun semi-square Venus defines the limit of how far Venus can move away from the Sun, any planet that is opposite either planet, with a very tight orb, will be sesquequadrate the other.

Jay's Venus is only 5 minutes from exactly semi-square Sun. He might want to know about this, at least in the future.

[katydid]

I dont use sesquiquadrates at all. Does anyone really know the meaning of this minor aspect?? My advice is leave it alone and semi squares are not really meaningful either. Concentrating on the major aspects will give you all you want to know and less confusion and obfuscation.


I disagree with the idea of ignoring minor aspects like semi-squares. I have seen charts where the only aspect the moon has is a semisquare to mars.
In cases like those the aspect would be very important and enlightening.

Also, my brother has his Venus as the midpoint of his Sun/Moon square. The only aspects his Venus makes is semisquare to the lights.

Would you ignore semi-squares in that instance?

I wouldn't because I see them as being very integral in his personality.
He is an atty, and a mediator. His Venus is pivotal in his practice, as he works tirelessly to hear people out, and help bring them to a resolution. He works quite a bit with divorced couples, and with fired employees and their bosses, and he relies upon his Venus in Libra to appear impartial when he is mediating disputes. Imo, the semi-squares show that he probes and prods both sides, and forces each one to give a little in order to make progress. :rolleyes:

[aquarius7000]

Hi,
I dont use sesquiquadrates at all. Does anyone really know the meaning of this minor aspect?? Going from a square:

A Sesquiquadrate (or a trioctile) is the longer arm of a square, stretched by another 45°, thus adding upto 135° (90°+45°).

The shorter arm of a square is a semi-square (or an octile), reduced by 45°, thus amounting to 45° (90°-45°).

Therefore, a 'semi'-square = half a square.
A sesquiquadrate = a square + semi-square.

Both are minor aspects, and considered stressful.

Squaring it up,
:)AQ7

PS: To people who haven't yet got their teeth firmly into Astrology, I too would recommend to concentrate on the major aspects, such as: conjunctions, trines, oppositions, squares and sextiles. It is wiser to learn to walk before you run!:). Also, within the 360° natal circle, every planet is in some (degreewise) mathematical correlation to another, so there always exists some or the other aspect between the inhabitants of the 'circle of life'.

[bluemascara]

I think that the aspects and house position balance out the sign. If venus is in bad placement by sign it will still find it easy to express itself positively if the aspects and house postion are positive or vice versa. For example, I know someone with a venus in Libra in the fifth house but in opposition to mars, and squared by saturn, uranus and neptune and that really plays itself out in the way that the person finds it really difficult to find good love relationships and is always drawn to negative unstable ones with really shady people and finds it difficult to maintain a balance.

[gaer]

I think that the aspects and house position balance out the sign. If venus is in bad placement by sign it will still find it easy to express itself positively if the aspects and house postion are positive or vice versa. For example, I know someone with a venus in Libra in the fifth house but in opposition to mars, and squared by saturn, uranus and neptune and that really plays itself out in the way that the person finds it really difficult to find good love relationships and is always drawn to negative unstable ones with really shady people and finds it difficult to maintain a balance.
I agree. The "weakness" or "strength" of any planet due to the sign it is in is only one factor, as you example above shows.

[Veronica]

Venus would be afflicted natally being on the 12 house.... with bad aspects...

[Claire19]

Jupiter is in detriment in Virgo, also. I consider Jupiter to rule Pisces.
So what does poor Neptune rule????:lol:
I think Pisces has validity with Jupiter as co ruler.

[Claire19]

Venus would be afflicted natally being on the 12 house.... with bad aspects...
Any planet is afflicted when it has bad aspects.

THe 12th house Venus can be very caring for instance and we cant generalise. Always need to see the chart.

[Claire19]

I think that the aspects and house position balance out the sign. If venus is in bad placement by sign it will still find it easy to express itself positively if the aspects and house postion are positive or vice versa. For example, I know someone with a venus in Libra in the fifth house but in opposition to mars, and squared by saturn, uranus and neptune and that really plays itself out in the way that the person finds it really difficult to find good love relationships and is always drawn to negative unstable ones with really shady people and finds it difficult to maintain a balance.
Right on!!!

Venus in Aries for instance is in its fall but it makes one brave in love and willing to take risks and "faint heart never won fair lady" Feats of derring do and taking the initiative which in a male is advantageous for sure. It makes for ardour and passion and liking the thrill of the chase.

[Modcleopatra]

There are a lot of Venus in Virgos in here. Are we an unhappy lot or what?

Me? I've got Cancer in the 7th house putting an emphasis on Venus, who is aspecting nearly everyone in my chart, except Moon, Mercury and Jupiter! Of course, she is also sort of making aspects to these guys

She's in the 8th in Virgo (yes I am industrial, jealous, and like sex)...

Trine Mars (conjunct my Moon)
Trine Ascendant
Trine Neptune
Sextile Pluto
Sextile Midheaven
Square Saturn (retrograde... ick)
Square Uranus (retrograde... ick)
Semi-square Sun (conjunct my Mercury)
Sesquiquadrate my North Node
1 degree off an opposition w/Jupiter

Should mention...

The Mars & Venus Trine, and the Venus & Ascendant Trines are the tightest... 3-4 degree orb

So, am I doomed or will I blossom?

Mod!

[07.Re]

I have Venus in 12th house / Virgo (she rules my 1st house and 8th house)

She makes some interesting aspects from this point:

Semi-sextile Pluto
Semi-sextile Mars
Trines Jupiter
Quintiles Saturn
Semi-square Uranus
Squares Neptune
Sextiles MC

I'm still working on understanding the quintile aspect.

[Veronica]

I have natally venus in Gemini in the 12th, with venus/uranus opposition and Venus/Jupiter Opposition, I've several books in regarding venus in the 12th and they interpret it as the same thing, Hidden Romances, Affairs.... its kind of negative. Does anyone have venus on the 12th with challeging aspects?

[kaminari]

Venus in Aries for instance is in its fall but it makes one brave in love and willing to take risks and "faint heart never won fair lady" Feats of derring do and taking the initiative which in a male is advantageous for sure. It makes for ardour and passion and liking the thrill of the chase.

Venus in Scorpio agrees. I can't imagine anyone being braver in love than me. I would move mountains, swim the high seas for my lover. I'm a bottom-less pit that no one can fill, but many have made dents.

I used to fear that my Venus was "afflicted". Now I realize she just walks to a different beat, has different desires than other pure hearts, loves intensely but loves all the same.

[Veronica]

Venus in Scorpio agrees. I can't imagine anyone being braver in love than me. I would move mountains, swim the high seas for my lover. I'm a bottom-less pit that no one can fill, but many have made dents.

I used to fear that my Venus was "afflicted". Now I realize she just walks to a different beat, has different desires than other pure hearts, loves intensely but loves all the same.


I think venus in Scorpio is more intense, they really want it all ... or nothing they can be very possesive, Venus in Aries is really bold as well, the woman will tend to project themselves very assertively, Iam not sure if its about coming on too strong on the person they are interested. But in my experience with the people I know, specially the Venus in Aries women the vibe they sort of tend to bring it out is a more look @ me, Iam sexy, in a somewhat bold manner.

[Veronica]

Veronica, unless there are some factors that I don't know, more or less 1 in every 12 people will have Venus in the 12th House.

I don't think it has to be Hidden Affairs.

Venus in Gemini in the 12th opposite Uranus sounds difficult to grasp or even define. Maybe it changes form and adapts.


EDIT: Now when I started reading the thread Natal indications on marriage/partners, they were commenting about 7th House, and I thought of a way to compare Venus in 7th House and 12th House. In the 7th it would be more focused on the working outs of a relation, how to make it happen, how to improve it...In the 12th it would be more about drifting away in dreams.

I will, check on that thread later, I dunno, I just think think astrologers who write books and planetary placements and aspects, and sooo forth should try to come with a different interpretation aside the classic venus in the 12th one. I dunno, as far relationships go Iam very into, eccentric/offbeat guys & not just that either they attract me or I attract them. The down side I will admit to venus in the 12th, is sometimes we attract people with real issues, people with subtance abuse problems, escapists people who wont want to deal with reality... and that can be a problem, it was for me ( I've walked that road once in my life not walking it again). Its a painful road watching someone you cared about just self destruct... I think its awesome to be different/eccentric/ offbeat/bizarre just as long as it doesn't get creepy, gross or to the point the person doesn't want to operate like a normal person.

[kaminari]

I think venus in Scorpio is more intense, they really want it all ... or nothing they can be very possesive, Venus in Aries is really bold as well, the woman will tend to project themselves very assertively, Iam not sure if its about coming on too strong on the person they are interested. But in my experience with the people I know, specially the Venus in Aries women the vibe they sort of tend to bring it out is a more look @ me, Iam sexy, in a somewhat bold manner.

Yeah they're bold, but they love the chase. I see right through them & so long as I have patience & not get too overwhelming like a tsunami, they love me. It's mutual respect but Aries gives up easily if they get what they want. In love I want supremacy & ViA makes it an interesting game. Oil & water.

I gotta Pisces ViA chasing me now. I'm just waiting patiently till she surrenders. LOL

[Veronica]

I think... Aries in general, wants the chase, and if someone is sort of constantly into them its like a major turn off... for Aries, I think they would be more enthralled with the person if the person sort of pays attention and is some what interested, but then sort of ignores, the Aries person, that is something that would sort of leave them wondering.. lol, I mean it is very perplexing to have someone give you undivided attention and then totally ignore you, Or everyone else paying attention except the one who were sort of hoping to get the undivided attention from.... so it sort of like a game.

[PlayItAgainSam]

Right on!!!

Venus in Aries for instance is in its fall but it makes one brave in love and willing to take risks and "faint heart never won fair lady" Feats of derring do and taking the initiative which in a male is advantageous for sure. It makes for ardour and passion and liking the thrill of the chase.


i totally agree with you..with Venus (Aries) Mars (Aries) Moon(Aries) conj. here.
i would also add that having Venus in Aries ,makes you say your feelings "loud " and "direct " (maybe too direct) :D

[PlayItAgainSam]

Yeah they're bold, but they love the chase. I see right through them & so long as I have patience & not get too overwhelming like a tsunami, they love me. It's mutual respect but Aries gives up easily if they get what they want. In love I want supremacy & ViA makes it an interesting game. Oil & water.

Again agree with "givin' up easily after getting the thing we want..

but bold manner with "look at me i am sexy " thing is more like "look at me i am very confident " . :-)

I personally think (and act), strong Venus Aries doesn't act like with Feminine "show off " manner ,because of having masculine energy and directness.
Its more like acting "confident" ,too confident.


i am not even sure if i could express well...:D

[Claire19]

I've got a pretty bad Venus. Venus in Virgo, square Saturn, combust Sun..:mad:
I am guessing you have not been swept off your feet by love.:love: You can marry later in life or to a more mature person. You will always be fussy and tend to enter partnerships for practical reasons which can lead to enduring relations as there are no illusions or over expectations. THere is a feeling that you have to work for everything you have perhaps. This makes for appreciation though of that which you accomplish or acquire.

However we need to look at the 7th chart.

[Claire19]

Again agree with "givin' up easily after getting the thing we want..

but bold manner with "look at me i am sexy " thing is more like "look at me i am very confident " . :-)

I personally think (and act), strong Venus Aries doesn't act like with Feminine "show off " manner ,because of having masculine energy and directness.
Its more like acting "confident" ,too confident.


i am not even sure if i could express well...:D
Venus in Aries is suggestive of making the first move, going after what is desired and being brave and taking risks with it all. However the thrill of the chase and the conquest can mean losing interest once the love object has been caught. Can be impulsive in love and have great initial interest which wanes.

[PlayItAgainSam]

I am guessing you have not been swept off your feet by love.:love: You can marry later in life or to a more mature person. You will always be fussy and tend to enter partnerships for practical reasons which can lead to enduring relations as there are no illusions or over expectations. THere is a feeling that you have to work for everything you have perhaps. This makes for appreciation though of that which you accomplish or acquire.

However we need to look at the 7th chart.


I also have Saturn aspect to Venus (trine) the only challenging aspect i have to Venus from Pluto (in Libra,opposing ) the rest is all all conj,sext. and trine.
As you all know that 7th house is about the 1st husbands:


My Desc. is in :cancer: and :saturn: there . My husband is a :cancer: ,has :sun: :conjunct::saturn: ! :-)
While his Desc. is :taurus: (guess what; i have :sun::taurus: )



He has again :venus::gemini: in 7h H ! 7 I have heavy 3rd H full of :aries: plus :mercury:,being at home gives me a lot like Aries+Gemini stereotype manner.

interesting...huh..

I have read 7th H is not only husbands ,also long-term partners that you are sharing the same place..Basically living like husband-wife with no paper (whats the difference)

if i am wrong...you are more than welcome to correct (anyone)

[MTTY05]

I am guessing you have not been swept off your feet by love.:love: You can marry later in life or to a more mature person. You will always be fussy and tend to enter partnerships for practical reasons which can lead to enduring relations as there are no illusions or over expectations. THere is a feeling that you have to work for everything you have perhaps. This makes for appreciation though of that which you accomplish or acquire.

However we need to look at the 7th chart.
Sadly, you are correct about me never falling in love. I'm starting to think I have some kind of issue I need to take care of. What comes natural to everyone else seems to elude me.

My 7th house is empty. The 7th cusp falls in Cancer. Moon is in Libra/9th.

[MTTY05]

I definitley see your point, but that isn't really the problem.

The problem isn't being in a relationship and not knowing I'm in love. The real problem is that I've never been in a relationship.

[MTTY05]

Yea, those are good placements to have. I think Venus in Virgo and it being square to Saturn may balance out the good aspects though. But I think that no matter what my planetary placements are, seduction may just be a skill you're born with. Some people seem to lack it.

My best friend "has it", unlike me. Sometimes I think I'd have been better off being a woman, or gay.

[MTTY05]

Yes, I'm very interested. Being alone is no fun for me at all after all this time, you know? I know I could try to blame this on outside forces, but fault is all mine at the end of the day.

[Courtney Love]

my venus, while decently aspected, is in the 12th. and it rules both my 5th and 6th houses. I have no lovelife and I've really never worked, and my health is horrible (6th house cusp conjuncts algol). Life is sweet.

[Modcleopatra]

my venus, while decently aspected, is in the 12th. and it rules both my 5th and 6th houses. I have no lovelife and I've really never worked, and my health is horrible (6th house cusp conjuncts algol). Life is sweet.

You sound just like Courtney Love! ;)


(actually i love her)

mod.

[Claire19]

Jupiter is in detriment in Virgo, also. I consider Jupiter to rule Pisces.
I dont consider Jupiter to rule Pisces. What happens to poor old Neptune then??? Jupiter is co ruler only.

[Claire19]

You sound just like Courtney Love! ;)


(actually i love her)

mod.

Venus cant rule both 5th and 6th really. There can only be one sign on a house cusp. I wouldnt use any interceptions either.....Use Equal or Whole sign method and all that goes away.

[Claire19]

my venus, while decently aspected, is in the 12th. and it rules both my 5th and 6th houses. I have no lovelife and I've really never worked, and my health is horrible (6th house cusp conjuncts algol). Life is sweet.
You must have other aspects in the 6th for health issues. I guess if you have not worked then the contacts for love are limited????
You sound as though you live a sheltered reclusive kind of life.

[Claire19]

Yes, I'm very interested. Being alone is no fun for me at all after all this time, you know? I know I could try to blame this on outside forces, but fault is all mine at the end of the day.
I dont use the word fault, it is the way you tend to be. If you post your chart we can discuss it, but not without.

[Courtney Love]

Venus cant rule both 5th and 6th really. There can only be one sign on a house cusp. I wouldnt use any interceptions either.....Use Equal or Whole sign method and all that goes away.


well, I've never really heard someone suggest that we just go with a new system and ignore the old one... I've read about interceptions, and I think they're valid, and describe the issues that I have. I am a bit of a recluse, and I really don't know why since I moved to a new town in 2008...I guess most people do meet people at work/school and since I have neither I'm alone... I was busy blaming last year's solar return chart ruler for kicking it in the 12th house.

using equal house, my 5th house is ruled by mars in leo in the 8th, I would expect me to be a lot more active if that were the proper thing.. but then again, my mars is stationary, which I've been made to understand makes me hard to change... I dunno..

I so wish I were a celebrity and therefore had like virtually every astrologer reading my chart, lol. I love all the different opinions!

[MTTY05]

I dont use the word fault, it is the way you tend to be. If you post your chart we can discuss it, but not without.
Here it is as equal house. I usually use placidus though.


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2017/equal.gif

[Sebastien Cheritte]

Hi all,

Since we're all going the Affliction route, let me add my 5c.

My Venus isn't well placed either, In Virgo (ooooh) in 7th (hmmmmm)
(sure, it's supposed to be pretty good right?),
not while it's square Jupiter/Uranus conj. in 9th in Sag.
and square Chiron in Gemini in 3rd. no trines, no sextiles no conjunctions.
One semi-sextile to the sun in 5th in Leo.

In my experience, I always land up with problematic women, especially alcoholics, or simply over-doers which mostly don't have a spine until AFTER the relationship.

At first they don't seem to have any problems, I mean, I am not inconsiderate or insensitive, I don't mean problems witch they are trying to overcome, I mean problems they are to slack and lazy to give a hoot about. Almost ALWAYS women with abusive habits.
There's only been one girl which didn't have this issue, she was the first, and at that stage - I was the one with the abusive problems.

Strange huh?!

until next time..

[multiple]

I have venus in the 1st conjunction sun in gemini- the textbook interpretation of that is probably that i'm a flirt and cassanova. whats not factored in is the fact that I have venus opposite neptune ,square saturn and my venus is retrograde.i tend to have a quite pensive and solitary side and its usually more present in my personality.