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AnnaViolet7
03-27-2008, 11:35 AM
Hiah

Would anyone be able to shed some light upon me having Juno,Lilith,Ixion and Quaoar all in the 1st house with Pluto? I have done some reading about Lilith and Juno on the net but I couldnt find much on Ixion and Quaoar in a natal horoscope...guess cos they were discovered fairly recently...

If anyone has any idea what this indicates personality wise then I would love to hear...Im guessing complex and strong personality?

Anna :)

Undo
04-10-2008, 10:00 PM
While I am not good with reading Natal charts, I -am- insanely resourceful, so the fact that I can finally read aspects :p I can find some things for you.

I also enjoy the asteroids much moreso than the planets. I find them fascinating.

In regards to your Lilith (what I'm currently trying to figure out in my chart, along with Artemis and Diana), it opposes everything it's in contact with.

Which is your Sun, Mercury, Venus, and your Chiron... ALL of which are in your 7th (Relationship) House and all in Taurus... Which is quite shocking. I don't know enough about this to comment, but maybe someone else can.

Sorry I'm of no REAL help. :confused:

Here's some prewrote aspects that you have:

Juno in the 1st House: The 1st house (http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/firsthouse.htm) is you, how you approach the world. Juno placed here can make being a partner the centerpiece of your life. Juno in the first house can also give you an air of innocence, something like a newborn child. This is especially true if Juno is within 10 degrees of the Ascendant and in the same sign.
Which yours is, if I'm not mistaken... 6 or 7 degrees of your Ascendant. ;)

Mercury quintile Ceres
You have a gift for communicating in a supportive and nurturing manner. This talent will create opportunities to assist others in understanding their experiences of separation or loss. You could be an excellent counselor, especially in relation to parent/child relationships and issues of attachment and letting go. You have an innate understanding of these dynamics, and an original and sometimes dramatic way of expressing your understanding which is very effective.

Sun conjunct Chiron
The roles and functions of Chiron are an integral part of your identity. You often feel like a �stranger in a strange land�. Your perceptions of reality and your role in it are unconventional, which may cause you to feel like an outsider. You have a remarkable ability to understand subtle energies and spiritual realities. Chiron is the �Wounded Healer�, hence there is a possibility that you will have a need to heal yourself, and through this process you will find keys that can be shared with others for healing and higher understanding. You and/or your father may have a �gypsy spirit�, being a citizen of the world but of no particular place. You may have experiences of the relative nature of time.

Mercury conjunct Chiron
Your mind tends toward the unconventional and non-ordinary experiences of life. You have a natural insight into the mind/body connection and the principles of holistic healing, and are adept at communicating these concepts. You use your mind to effect your own healing, and in so doing you discover keys that can be shared with others. You are probably considered a maverick in your thinking.

Venus conjunct Chiron
You have a grace of spirit that has a healing effect on all those who come in contact with you. You are drawn to experiences that go beyond ordinary concepts of time and healing. Spiritually you may be considered a maverick. Dogma and tradition are not for you. You place a great value on spiritual wisdom, and have an excellent ability to express higher truths in artistic and creative ways. You have an innate understanding of the mind/body connection, and through experiences of personal healing, you can find keys that can be shared with others.

Moon square Pallas Athene
Your intellectual side wants to be beyond emotional needs. Your desire for independence tends to undermine your emotional fulfillment or support. You seem somewhat unapproachable, or appear not to need anyone. You may believe it yourself, but you do wish for the comfort of a �safe zone� or a support matrix. You may often find yourself having to choose between love and pursuit of your artistic expression. This is always a difficult choice. It is best to find a creative way to satisfy both needs.

Jeremy
04-28-2008, 11:10 AM
I find Pluto rising in Libra to be intriguing, Juno will almost certainly be overwhelmed by it; expressing Plutonian qualities is pretty intense, a conjunction to Juno makes your wife image intense and powerful; in Libra, an obsession with beauty and physical perfection, often a need to have flawless skin tone.

The Moon square Pallas is also intriguing; I see this in mothers who have a hard time expressing their feelings to their daughters, the daughters consequently have a withholding Moon sign themselves, like Capricorn. Certainly it denotes some tension in the mother daughter relationship, both upstream and downstream.

I have Juno rising too, and Ur/Pl just in the 12th, so I can relate somewhat :)

Jeremy

AnnaViolet7
04-30-2008, 04:19 PM
Dear Undo,

Thanks so much for the info I love the asteroids too they provide another dimension to a chart very interesting...

I can relate to all the aspects mentioned particularly the Chiron conj Sun one..The very first intuitive reading I had I was told I am a healer but had forgotten to start with myself first I have had a very tough life and I have my woundedness...i have made it my mission over the last 9 months to begin healing me..People I have lived with and friends say I am a very calming person to be around which I have sometimes found surprising cos I have not felt that way inside sometimes been so down or anxious yet able to make others feel calm which I think is very Chiron...

No need to be shocked about the Lilith thing we all have aspects within us that need integration I dont know for sure but I am guessing this is indicating that there is conflict between being a strong fearless independant Lilith personality and fitting in with relationships and societys views of what a woman should be like...

I would love to hear if you have any other ideas of what it could mean?:)

Dear Jeremy,

Thanks for your reply and info I am still trying to suss out my pluto too its not always fun there is a need to be in control there but yet also a subconcious need to tear things apart and end up with nothing to have to start again:confused: I am trying to overcome it though and tame the Pluto in me! I went to see an Astrologer who works with Psycology of Vision and we looked at the ages in childhood when traumatic events happened and she did a card reading for me there were 3 sets of cards one was your complex..what is holding you back I drew the Undoer complex a card where one person is building a wall while the other tears it down...she said that every 2 or 6 years I will self destruct what I have created relationships etc unless I try to heal my childhood..the other cards I drew for the solution -seeing the higher perspective and the gift card- what gifts I have brought with me-was abundance...she said I need to rise above what has happened to me in my life and share my gifts with everyone..and be the leader(north node in Leo)

Sorry that was a ramble!!! Yes one big dream is to be happily settled and married...So pluto is much stronger influence than Juno?I have read that about Pluto its influence is so strong that it colours everything it touches..my libran asd for example is said to be more like a scorpio...How has your Juno panned out for you? Is marriage and being a partner a big thing for you?

I read about Pluto in 12th that you have the abilty to manifest things very quickly...Madonna has Pluto there and she pretty much manifests all she desires...I guess you have to be careful what you wish for too!

Yes I have a daughter she is 2 and things are tough sometimes trying to set boundaries she is a very strong personality and I am too in different ways..She has a 12th house moon about as witholding of emotion as you can get..I was surpirised and upset when I first looked at her chart it all seemed to be saying you'll be a **** mum...I try to be there for her at every step and I will always try thats all i can do really...

Hope to chat more ;) Sorry for the long post!

Anna

Jeremy
04-30-2008, 05:04 PM
I see that your chat ruler is also the final dispositor and in accidental dignity; I think that makes Venus very powerful in your life. I think the Juno placement becomes more powerful in that regard, since if anything it has to be dignified in Libra all things considered and must have considerable affinity with Venus.

Pluto rising like it does will add great intensity; often uncomfortable intensity to your relationships, a need for physical perfection, perhaps a tendency to get hung up on how you look and by God, you must be competitive :)

Am I wrong? I know Libra can be very laid back, but there is an oscillation with Aries that makes Libra compete to the death.

Just guessing,
Jeremy

AnnaViolet7
04-30-2008, 05:23 PM
Hello again,

Will you explain the significance of a final dispositor? Is it the most powerful planet in your chart?

Yes I can see how it would make Juno more significant definatly what with Venus/Libra having so much to do with partnership..

I do like things around me to be beautiful yes but that doesnt mean that people have to be physically beautiful for me to be with them none of my bfs have been conventionaly good looking but to me they were beautiful in other ways..I am more critical of myself but Im learning to be less so..

I can be competitive but not outwardly so!!Although inwardly i would like to be powerful and NO 1!!!(Not a trait i like in myself)

Thanks for your reply :)

Anna

Jeremy
04-30-2008, 05:31 PM
A final dispositor is simply a powerful influence that colours the entire character; more particularly, as in your case, since the final dispositor is also the domicile ruler of the Asc. then it is doubly powerful; then when you consider it is accidentally dignified then really you have a powerful case of Venus.

Which is nice, of course, so while Pluto may be a big deal in your life, Venus is bigger. I would say that is a good thing.

Jeremy

EDIT: Pope John Paul II and Hitler both had Venus as final dispositor in their charts, just FYI :)

AnnaViolet7
04-30-2008, 07:30 PM
Oh great that doesnt sound too positive I wouldnt aspire to be like them!!! :eek:

I agree yes I would prefer to be Venus lead rather than Pluto!Although maybe I dont know enough about Venus cos I wouldnt have guessed that Venus had a big part to play with Hitler!

Kind Regards,

Anna

AnnaViolet7
05-01-2008, 09:51 AM
Btw Cheers for telling me my final dispositor ;)

Jeremy
05-01-2008, 12:59 PM
Hi again Anna,
Sorry for not responding sooner, I have been having a truly peculiar day (in a good way). I mentioned Hitler and Pope John Paul II because they show the potential of a Venusian disposition for good and for ill; Venus is as much about structure and thought as it is about love and beauty, it governs aesthetics after all, so the idea of how the world "should be" is very Venusian indeed, why else is Libra so closely allied with the Law, natural or judicial?

You must not feel that your stars are going to push you one way or the other. I looked in the mirror this morning and noticed that my beard is turning grey; do I blame the mirror for that? It is the same with astrology, it does not make us become something, it is like a road map, it shows us the route to our destination; it does not tell us if the sun will be shining when we have arrived.

You should never forget that :)

Blessings to you, I hope Venus lights your way,
Jeremy

AnnaViolet7
05-01-2008, 08:00 PM
Hi again Anna,
Sorry for not responding sooner, I have been having a truly peculiar day (in a good way). I mentioned Hitler and Pope John Paul II because they show the potential of a Venusian disposition for good and for ill; Venus is as much about structure and thought as it is about love and beauty, it governs aesthetics after all, so the idea of how the world "should be" is very Venusian indeed, why else is Libra so closely allied with the Law, natural or judicial?
Hey Jeremy,
That makes absolute sense thank you...I guess the higher vibration/use of Venus influence would be unconditional love...
You must not feel that your stars are going to push you one way or the other. I looked in the mirror this morning and noticed that my beard is turning grey; do I blame the mirror for that? It is the same with astrology, it does not make us become something, it is like a road map, it shows us the route to our destination; it does not tell us if the sun will be shining when we have arrived.
Wise thoughts thank you for them that all makes sense too :D
You should never forget that :)

Blessings to you, I hope Venus lights your way,
Jeremy

Blessings to you too thank you for sharing your wisdom and knowledge

Anna