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wintersprite1
03-09-2008, 10:14 AM
I recently did a horary that isn't making sense to me and would love for anyone to show me where I went wrong.

The background of the question: Was X the pilot? I just started seeing a pilot socially. He seemed familiar from the first moment I laid eyes on him. A few weeks went on when I had a dream that prompted a forgotten memory. In 1999 I was flying and a pilot came over to my seat and asked me to wait for my connection with him in the pilot's lounge. He was very intense, like the guy I am seeing now. He was very insistent, and I agreed, but once landing hid instead, even though I promised I would meet him in the lounge. (I knew that the day was a big Karmic one.... I met my future ex husband :eek: that same day, and I thought at the time, if I go to the lounge I will never make the connection.) I had some issues at the time that again resurfaced when I met this current pilot. I asked if these were in fact the same person. They really are very similar... and up front I will tell you he told me no that wasn't him. I look at the horary and don't see a no... tempted to tell him it was and he just forgot!! Now, I should also say that because some issues came back that happened in that brief encounter, I am wondering if the Universe is saying, he may not be the same in reality but it is the same energy. So where did I go wrong on the interpretation?

Data: Was X the pilot? February 13 2008, Security, Colorado 104w45 38n46. time 7:07am

My attempt:

First thing I noticed before anything else is the NN on the Ascendant Very tight. Seems fateful if nothing else. Late Ascendant.... somewhere I know the answer already. I am SaturnRX and found in the 7th (his first)... that seemed like a blatant yes to me right there. He is the Sun found in the 12th... again appropriate that it was dream stuff and in the house of Karma. No aspect at the moment but both planets reaching toward and opposition in our respected others first. The lord of the third is Venus found in the turned 5th within seconds of 30degrees from his Sig the Sun. The Moon is on the cusp of the third and the POF in the 3rd....(this keeps looking so fated) The Moon will Square his Sig the Sun next.... so a problematic yes? The lords of both our 3rds are Venus and Mars.... less than a degree from an inconjunct. His Sig Sun will aspect the lord of the turned 3rd next... another yes. Okay now someone find where it says "well duh, of course it isn't him"

TK

archergirl
03-09-2008, 05:54 PM
Hi there, I had done a great delineation of this chart, and then realised that I may have misunderstood the situation. :p
So, let me ask first; you *really* met a pilot back in 1999, or did you just dream about one? Is it that you think you met this pilot before, for real, but can't remember what he looked like?

*scratches head*

Maybe clarify things a little more for slow old me. The horary may not make sense to you because you aren't quite sure what you're really asking, btw.

The 'too late' ascendant shows that either you already know the answer, or that actually, it doesn't matter anyway. There is no 'relationship' between Saturn and the Sun, and the Moon will square the Sun. I would take this as 'no', he's not the same one. However, there' s an applying trine between the Sun and Mars, 9th house ruler. The 9th house rules things like 'travel', of course, but it also rules things like visions and dreams: those things that connect us with the Divine. I am wondering if the Universe is saying, he may not be the same in reality but it is the same energy This may well be what it is. Pehaps the greatest wisdom isn't found in figuring out whether this is the same guy, but in figuring out what this particular 'story' is here to teach you. :)
Cheers!
AG:)

wintersprite1
03-10-2008, 05:58 AM
Thanks Archer,

Let me clarify what I can. Yes there was a real pilot that asked me to the pilot lounge in 1999. He sat with me for about a half hour and I did my best to be polite but wanted to be left alone. I felt very out of my element being in first class and felt this was all too "neptunian" for me to deal with. And like a true 12th house Cappy Sun ... after I promised to meet him up there, I disappeared and hid in an airport bathroom until time to connect with my next flight. That was so long ago, that I forgot all about it until I had a dream that reminded me. Both pilots look the same and really have that same intense manner about them. In retrospect, I believe the mannerisms and the voices were the same.... and the same blue eyes that seemed to pierce any aura of "stay away" I could muster.

I suspect you are correct on the looking for the lesson thing. Issues of self worth were raised by both.... and am learning to accept complements now.... really with Cappy Sun and merc and mars conj my Cappy asc.... no one tries that more than once. I am again feeling out of my element (maybe why Saturn rx in his first.... he really does accept me more than I do myself) but finding it is only a temporary earth bound restriction and limitation, not a "reality".

I hadn't included in the first posting some interesting things I saw. I don't want to confuse anyone out there (more than I already have LOL) cause I know we don't look at natals when doing Horary.... but you can't help but to notice anyway sometimes..... the Horary Asc and NN are conjunct his Natal Sun and my sig Saturn is Conj his natal Asc.....

Okay what lesson do I take from this? Hiding is not the answer. Social standard are just an earth bound reality, and that I should hang out at airports cause pilots find me irresistible. :34:

Thanks again for giving this a go!

TK

I am going to look up the data about that flight in 1999... see what transits were happening... location? Somewhere between Denver and Chicago...