Mystery Natal

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[wilsontc]

coffee,

I am a little confused, since the chart is labeled "Horary Chart", but if you say it is a "natal chart" that is good enough for me! :) This person has a strong focus in the 6th house (daily work, also analysis) with the North node (future goals) and a Scorpio (transformation, also research) stellium (collection of energy) there as well. So this person might like to work in research analysis.

Guessing,

Tim

[Lin]

This person just had a Saturn return. Surely she has been working for a long time. Why don't you tell us what she really wants to know? Specific questions are much more likely to be answered than general ones.
By the way, she seems to have an abundance of "work" but not much luck with relationship.....
LIN

[sallyd]

taurus rising i'd say led her to be full of common sense. would moon in the 12th make for a bit of professional detachment too?

[sanjab]

This person just had a Saturn return. Surely she has been working for a long time. Why don't you tell us what she really wants to know? Specific questions are much more likely to be answered than general ones.
By the way, she seems to have an abundance of "work" but not much luck with relationship.....
LIN

Hi all
this is my chart.Id like to know general stuff or anything you can see. You are right,I had no luck with relationship(so far:)). Im also interested about my work,Im starting a different job soon in a bank.
Thank you

[sanjab]

This person just had a Saturn return. Surely she has been working for a long time. Why don't you tell us what she really wants to know? Specific questions are much more likely to be answered than general ones.
By the way, she seems to have an abundance of "work" but not much luck with relationship.....
LIN

I have no problem with finding a job you are right.I want to know also If I will have a chance to make a lot of money and which jobs are the best for me?
Thanks:)

[EJ53]

Venus appears to be the chart ruler, dispositor of all planets in 6th house and the final dispositor of all planets. So, this is the key to understanding the chart - because everything in life will ultimately lead to achieving the aims of Venus in Libra/6th house.

The money planets in this chart are venus/mars/pluto/mercury/moon/jupiter and saturn. So, we are looking for a career/job/business involving 3/4/5/6 and 12th houses and - because the money signs of Taurus/Scorpio are on the 1/7 axis - possibly involving a partner. But, the earning potential is high.

EJ

[EJ53]

Hi Sanjab,

I've looked at your Saturn return/Solar return/progressed chart/transits for 2007/8. The saturn return indicates that there is a relationship issue to resolve before you will be able to make the most of your money signs (which are intercepted there).

The progressed chart now has Gemini on the Asc and Aquarius on the Mc - with progressed venus/neptune on the natal 7th/8th house cusps and the progressed 3rd house cusp on on natal (and progressed) jupiter.

The Solar Return has Neptune in Aquarius/conjunct 7th house cusp and a close T-Square of venus opposed uranus both square jupiter.

The major transit is Pluto (from 8th house) to Natal Saturn (in 5th house) - active throughout Jan 2007 to December 2008.

The eclipse on 7th February squared your natal Asc/progressed venus and trined pluto - and emphasised the areas of Aquarius/Leo in all the charts.

The difficulty now is that, without some background information from you, there are simply too many potential meanings of this information to make a meaningful attempt at synthesis.


EJ :)

[sanjab]

Hi Sanjab,


So, are you able to tell us more or not?

EJ :)

What do you need to know?
I spent a lot of time abroad,travelling and working at the same time. Now Im back in my country trying to settle down here.

[EJ53]

Ok - here's my guess :-

Sanjab is intelligent, inventive, quick-thinking, analytical and a good learner - a problem solver with good communication skills and and judgement, but a bit intolerant of slower thinkers. Her dramatic manner no doubt sits well with her restless, independent, freedom-loving and open nature - but self-discipline, courage, versatility and wit are probably the qualities she admires most about herself.

A non-conformist - who can be arrogant, argumentative, defensive and a bit sensitive to slights at times - she will express her anger easily and tend not to compromise. So, despite her affectionate/faithful/passionate nature, romantic relationships will be a problem until she understands the meaning of unconditional love. Then, she is likely to enjoy a long and happy partnership for the rest of her life.

In childhood, she may not have been happy at home - but, there she learned to be wise with money and developed the ability to stick at routines/chores. And, it mat be where she developed her characteristics of risk-taking, fighting for principles and strong desire to achieve.

Jobwise, I would expect her to be hard-working and to prefer working alone - but, she is nevertheless suited for a career in communications or the media (perhaps researching things behind the scenes).

To me, banking looks as if it is something she can do but not enjoy - I think she needs to be self-employed because of her uncompromising nature. And I think that a review of her life to date would reveal what that Venus/6th house/final dispositor work should be.

So, that's my two-pence worth. I hope it helps.

EJ

[EJ53]

You wanna do mine too? :D

I wouldn't dare!

Thanks for the feedback - it's encouraging.

EJ :)

[sanjab]

Ok - here's my guess :-



EJ

This is very,very close to the truth. Thanks.

[EJ53]

Why would you need all the key events in her life? You are not attempting to rectify her natal.

Because there is a final dispositor in this chart, events will reveal a pattern - that pattern will reveal the aim of the final dispositor - that aim will reveal the right career (in terms of both satisfaction and financial reward). But, on reflection, that review does not belong here.

[EJ53]

Look at the whole natal with a paticular focus on career (10th) and mainly job (6th). So general areas are fine as they are.

Closer examination of the natal chart reveals that Venus is NOT the final dispositor, as Mars/Moon are in mutual reception (with Moon dispositing both Jupiter and Neptune). Since Venus in Libra/6th disposits everything else, it is still the main life theme - but Moon in Aries/12th is a significant secondary theme. Noel Tyl's book on "Vocations - The New Mid-Heaven Extension Process" suggests this Moon position indicates a consultant/counsellor (12th) and a need to be number one/self-employed (Aries). For a strong 12th house, he also suggests working behind the scenes; politics/government and editing as areas to consider. (The 12th is strong because the energy of both the natal and natural rulers - Jupiter/Neptune - are drawn there by the Moon).

I'm going to see what this process reveals about the rest of the chart.

[EJ53]

I'm going to see what this process reveals about the rest of the chart.

The relevant factors appear to be :-

Pluto is the oriental planet = prestige/authority gained by contact with those who count/powerful people

Moon in Aries/12th house = already covered in previous post

Capricorn Mc = business orientated
ruler - saturn in leo/5th = theatre administration; entertainments and recreations officer, elderly homes manager

Dominant Venus in libra/6th = fashion; home improvement; helping young women; interior design; social services; public health management

6 planets in 6th house = qualities of these planets are available to venus as dispositor, so career versatility is signified here.

MC square Me/plu mid-point = penetrating insight; psychology
MC square Ve/ura mid-point = aims/ambitions/ideas inspire others
Mo square Ne/Mc mid-point = career using sensitive caring nature
Ur conjunct Sa/Mc mid-point = dedicated effort to an ideal will create something of lasting value.

Finally, there are a number of quintiles in the chart - apparently indicating a great need for creative outlets. They are venus/mars (drive to earn big money?) : mars/MC (drive to have a creative career?) : saturn/uranus (creative ideas about government/politics?) : uranus/MC (new technology development?) : moon/MC (interior design?)

No doubt SanjaB can make some sense of this but - for me - the list is just too exhaustive to be useful. (I still think the focus should be upon that Venus in Libra/6th house.)

EJ:)

[sanjab]

The relevant factors appear to be :-

No doubt SanjaB can make some sense of this but - for me - the list is just too exhaustive to be useful. (I still think the focus should be upon that Venus in Libra/6th house.)

EJ:)

Thank you :)

[EJ53]

......and one or two transits would be ideal.

Hi SanjaB,

I have looked at the current transits to your natal chart and considered them against the Saturn Return/Solar Return/progressions at age 30.

The Saturn Return sets the scene for the next 30 years or so - and focuses on the need to clear up a relationship issue before you can fully open up the money signs of Taurus/Scorpio in the 12th/6th houses. Basically, this means that the "big money" opportunities relate to 6th/12th house activities and a partner is probably needed to achieve them.

The Solar Return and Progressed Chart set the scene for the 12 months to your 31st birthday. Both emphasise Venus/Neptune/Jupiter and the sign of Aquarius - with Uranus/7th house involved in the Solar Return and 8th/3rd houses involved in the progressed chart. I am hoping this means that you and the right partner will be together this year.

The major transit is Pluto trine Saturn, which has been active since the start of 2007 and continues until the end of 2008. This should result in some major changes in your life and (perhaps) your character - probably requiring you to let go of some tradition/attitude/behaviour pattern from the past that hinders your abilty to be creative/relax. This may not be easy and could involve some hardship for a while, but the end result will be worthwhile. (Maybe it is your uncompromising attitude that needs to change in order to attract that right partner?)

In the natal chart, all of this activity appears to activate a planetary triangle of Moon-Saturn-Uranus in Aries-Leo-Scorpio and 12th-5th-6th houses. So, the focus is again on those 6th/12th house opportunities - with creativity being thrown in by the presence of Uranus/5th house and the fact that these three planets are linked by quintile aspects.

To summarise then, the next 10 months are about changing yourself and your attitudes - then everything else might well fall into place "as if by magic".

[EJ53]

I want to know also.....which jobs are the best for me?

Hi SanjaB,

It might be helpful to complete my chart analysis with a comment on the North/South Node and Chiron placements, as these do steer everyone towards what is best for them. (Here though, "best" means whatever is right for soul development - so if the theory of reincarnation leaves you cold, switch off now.)

The North/South Node

The sign and house position of the North Node points to what should be done (to grow), but is uncomfortable and the South Node points to what should not (to avoid stagnating), but is comfortable. Consequently, fulfilment comes from following the more difficult North Node path.

Your North Node is in Libra/6th house (!!!) and the South Node's in Aries/12th - so, you are being pointed away from those dominant Moon activities and towards those more dominant Venus activities. In other words, satisfaction and reward will ultimately be found through Venus/6th house jobs rather than the Moon/12th house jobs - although the South Node will make you feel more comfortable in the latter.

6th house work covers things like nursing, cooking, cleaning, hairdressing and similar services + writing, accountancy/book-keeping or anything that needs a grasp of details/everday experiences.
Libra activities revolve around art and relationships - but my guess is that it points here to evolving/learning through close contact with a partner.

12th house jobs include working in hospitals, clinics, nursing homes and social services - whilst (I think) Aries might point to being self-reliant, independant and uncompromising. (Remember though, these are things to avoid or do less of.)

Chiron

Chiron points to a psychological wound, usually obtained in childhood, that can never be healed - so, we have to accept/learn to live with it. Until we do so, it causes behaviour that holds us back. The Chiron sign indicates the nature of the wound, it's house shows where the behavioural problem will occur, aspects to other planets help/hinder our ability to accept the wound and the North Node activitities are where we can help others if/when we have learned to live with Chiron's "gift".

You have Chiron in Taurus/12th house, opposite Sun/Mercury in Scorpio/6th house and North Node in Libra/6th house. Chiron in Taurus indicates a deep seated need for personal seccurity/safety/love - which may manifest in the 12th house as hiding the wound from others and/or keeping your vulnerable feelings to yourself. The oppositions to the Sun and Mercury may make you feel (either) intellectually superior or inferior to others - influencing your self-expression and/or willingness to stand out in a crowd. The Libra/6th house activities (North Node) can help you overcome whatever problem Chiron has left you with.

So, yet again, the importance of the Libra/6th house is emphasised for you.

Hope I have been of some help.

EJ