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Arian Maverick
02-02-2006, 02:32 AM
I have noticed that the Possible Indicators of Past Lives (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=894) thread is still going strong and the Metaphysical Corner (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=893) has taken a turn towards Crystals/Indigo/Octarine Children. So as not to disturb the flow of conversation on either board, I have decided to create a separate place dedicated solely to the purpose of discussing other life memories--or, if you are in the process of trying to recall such memories, possible inklings you may have. Enjoy!

Lapis
02-02-2006, 03:25 AM
Great idea Aquarian Maverick, I'm glad you did this. I think we're going to be adding even more too. :)

I wanted to share a past life tid-bit that I think all the astrologers here will find interesting and clever. As I've mentioned I've remembered having lived in ancient Egypt twice. Once in a male body with Beings from Orion, Sirius, and the Pleiades at the cusp between the ending Age of Virgo and the beginning Age of Leo around 12,600 years ago (just opposite now).

The second life was in a female body and was around the beginning of the Age of Gemini a few thousand years later. This is the life I'm referring to now with this story.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/9035/isis7wt.jpg

I added this picture so you can see the necklace or collar I'm talking about.

Envision a large flat gold circle of metal. Now cut a hole in the center of this large circular piece of metal. Add a single cut from the center hole out to the outer edge.

Next section off this gold circle of metal with the 12 houses but do this with different gemstones for each house. Yes the gemstones correspond to the astrological energies of each of the 12 houses. Next add a wide decorative border at the edge of both the inner and outer edges.

Next place the appropriate gemstones where each one the the Planets, Sun, Moon etc. are in your Natal Chart. These gemstones are attached to the flat gold disk of metal. Now that your Natal Chart has been placed using the appropriate gemstones for each Planet in the correct houses, gently bend the large gold disk almost in half. Now gently twist the open or cut part so that you can slip this metal disk around your neck from the front. That inner hole in the center was for your head! :wink:

You now have, in gold, your personal Natal Chart with all the power of the corresponding gemstones for the Planets in the Houses as not only a beautiful decorative collar but your individual Amulet also.

I've said before that the ancient Egyptians, as probably all of these ancient cultures did, always did everything from a multidimensional standpoint. This collar is a perfect example of this way of thinking. It was obviously beautiful but it also did many other things at the same time. It was a living Amulet, a powerful and protective energy for each individual. It also showed viewers your Natal Chart or more correctly, your souls focus in that incarnation. And with the passage of time, other (Natal) collars were made and worn that today we'd call progressions and transits and these collars looked just like our current astrological charts with the many 'rings' within it! Great idea isn't it? http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5228/egyptianface6tj.gif

Draco
02-02-2006, 09:40 AM
Hi AquaMav and Lapis,

I wanted to relate to you some strange synchronicities that happened to me, which I believe might be indicative of 'past' lives.

A couple of years ago I was reading a book upon interesting cases of past life regression. I was reading one case, about an English woman who was regressed to a life as a young man who worked as a printer, in Philadelphia in the 1700's, a contemporary of Benjamin Franklin, and who was present at the Declaration of Independance. I think that in that life she/he had known Benjamin Franklin, or had worked for him.

When reading about this case I remember looking at an illustration of the Philadelphia declaration taking place, where a crowd of people are gathered to witness a group of men stood upon a platform signing papers. When I read the sentence next to the illustartion, describing what was going on in the picture, a word flashed into my mind as I read the date, 'July 4th, 1776'. That word was 'Boone'. The word was so prominent in my mind that I felt immeditely compelled to grab a pen and any scrap of paper and quickly write the word down before I forgot, because I knew it was significant somehow, and I am unaccustomed to such clear signals other than when I've practised mediumship among groups. One thing I will mention is that I was very particular about the spelling of the word, I knew it was 'Boone', with the 'e' at the end, and not 'Boon', which would be the simplest way to spell the way the word sounded. I also knew it had to be a capital 'B', so I knew that this word must have stood either for the name of a person or the name of a place. Once written, I just looked at the word wondering why the hell I'd wrote down a word I hadn't heard before and with no apparent meaning. As soon as I looked at the word, another word came, and this was 'Indiana'. Of course, I had heard of Indiana, and other than the fictional 'Indiana Jones', I was aware that this is a state of America.

When I had googled what I had written down (a decision I now regret), I was amazed to discover that 'Boone', with the 'e' at the end, is the principle town of 'Boone County, Indiana'! What are the chances? Not only does the place exist but in the peculiar way I spelled it! Considering I was reading about a American regression experience to the 1770's at the time that this notion came to me, I was wondering whether this suggested that I myself may have been American at that time, or at least in America?

The reason I regret googling up 'Boone', is because I have now plagued my mind with information about the place which I have seen on the internet. I do not remember anything I read about it conciously, but that does not mean to say it isn't stored in my unconcious. Therefore, if I was to go for regression to explore my connections to that place, there is no guarantee that the information will be coming from the 'other life', if there was one, and not from subconciously stored information from the 'net. So I would have to provide information that no-one could possibly know, info that cannot come from any source other than a past life memory, making things harder to verify.

I would also mention that Indiana was not one of the states included in the 'Declaration of Independance of the Thirteen Colonies', despite the fact that reading about this event aroused the 'memory' of this place's name. However, this doesn't mean to say that people were not trying to colonise the region of Indiana, around that time, and considering the name of the state, I would imagine that there must have been a considerably large Indian population in this region in order to have inspired the name, and so any would be colonists must have had a hell of a lot of conflict.

There are not many 'memories' that come to mind when I try to think of 'Boone, Indiana' and see what comes to mind. However, I feel strongly that 'I'/he was male and white, quite young but bearded. I can only see him, through his own eyes, in states of conflict and struggle, there is pain, panic. He wears a red jacket with yellow parts, the cuffs are yellow and I think there are yellow horizontal stripes down each side of the front, the buttons are gold. The boots are black and quite long. There is a hat of some kind. The trousers are I think, white or a pale colour. He carries a musket or a rifle, so I feel that he is a soldier of some sort. There are bangs, explosions, gunfire, lots of dust flying up from the ground and shouting. I don't get much else. It may simply be imagination.

Draco :wink:

Arian Maverick
02-02-2006, 02:51 PM
Great idea Aquarian Maverick, I'm glad you did this. I think we're going to be adding even more too.

You bet...creating new boards is my specialty :D

That was a great story, Draco! You are very fortunate to have received such a clear signal. Now if only I could read something that would jump-start a past life memory...any suggestions?

Aquarian Maverick

Draco
02-02-2006, 03:25 PM
Hi AquaMav,

if only I could read something that would jump-start a past life memory...any suggestions?

How about a horary chart? Just an idea.

As for a book, just look for something with a compilation of different example of past life regression cases, there may be something within that resonates with you.

I don't see why a question regarding a past life can't be read in a horary. Then rather than waiting for a memory flash by reading a book, the charts answer may prompt a recall of something significant.

Draco :wink:

Arian Maverick
02-02-2006, 03:41 PM
Thanks for the advice Draco...but unfortunately, I'm more clueless with synastry and horary than I am with natal astrology :roll:

I've also had a few moments where I felt a strong resonance with someone or something, but again, it's never resulted in a recollection of memories. Maybe we'll all gain a little something by sharing our experiences...

Aquarian Maverick

Light
02-02-2006, 07:43 PM
Aqua Mav

I wish I could access my meories, too. :cry: The ideas Lapis posted on the other thread are also in a book I found. Another one is , suppoedly, is to write down any stupid sayings you have. "I should have been born a man!", that sort of thing. They are supposed to be links to your last incarnation. So are the type of clothes you like to wear. Doing any of this, I can get past the 1920-1940 era. But no Eureka moments. Sigh!



Another method I've read about involves the nodes. Astrology - am I allowed :wink: It actually about the transits for the nodes to see of theres a central theme for this incarnation. Perhaps it could work backwards. (Its from Melanie Reihart's book "Incarnation") As the south node transits around the natal chart, you write a story useing the archetypes for the planets it touhes. The postie falls into the well at the garage whilst running to catch a plane (Merc/Sat in Aqu opp Ur) sort of thing! I got bogged down, very quickly - but i've no imagination.

The only thing I've had any recollection on (much to my embarassment), is telling people about a road on the Isle of Wight as being at least 3 miles further inland from the last time I visited it in 1976. Unfortunately. this road collapsed like that in 1928! I am absolutely convinced about the layout of the area as it was then - even to the colour of the houses and where they were in relation to now (underwater). And the buildings used now were much much further inland. But I can't put this down to a defininate past life experience, as I was there in 1976. Did I read all about it then? It's well documented. I don't know.

Anyway, I'm waffling again.

Take care

hel

Lapis
02-02-2006, 09:05 PM
Draco,

That was a great story, thanks for sharing it with us. From what you've said, and the way in which that 'message' came to you (and I'm basing my saying this on my own personal experiences and working with other people too) I think that you triggered a real past life memory. The strangest of things will do this for us. Here's an example of what I'm talking about, you can compare the triggers and go from there.

Also, you mentioned something very telling, and it was that you were seeing through his eyes! There are usually two main ways that we 'see' past lives and one is literally through the eyes of that other person. The other way is to remain in your current life identity and consciousness while at the same time 'watch' or 'view'- like watching a movie, this other persons experiences. There is also a third way and that's where we view both of the lives/incarnations from a higher level and we 'view' both the current and the 'past' live from this 3rd point.

Last year I was repainting a large picture frame inside the house and was using an oil based gold paint. Bad move because it stunk up the house for hours! But.....THAT was my trigger for this particular past life memory. The right tools, whatever they may be, will cause strong reactions in many different ways if there's a past life involved.

So I'm painting gold oil based paint on the large picture frame when the fumes from the paint start to give me a headache and I suddenly am in a really bad mood! I'm pissed and I don't know why. Then faintly, off to my physical right, I hear the far off sounds of clinking chisels and hammers on stone. I turned my head to the right to look and see what I was hearing and I saw in my minds eye this past life image. This took only about 5 seconds. The 'real' or current physical room I, Lapis, was in had dissappeared and this other lifetime was in it's place. And in those few seconds, huge chuncks of a past life come flooding back in with all the corresponding emotions of what's being remembered/seen.

I was a male stone cutter in Italy. I and a small group of other men who were employed at this place, cut the huge blocks of stone brought in by other men. We'd cut and carve them into statues commissioned by other important men. We were basicly life-long slaves in this place.

When we got too old and/or physically damaged by this unending hard stone work, we'd get moved down the work line and become picture frame carvers. After that, we'd get moved down to the farthest end of the work line and have to paint these huge and heavy, beautifully carved, picture frames. Paint them with oil based gold paint!

Now, in this place most all of the men had lung problems due to a lifetime of breathing in stone dust and wood dust and paint fumes. All of us were sick and broken from this extremely hard work. But this is why I - Lapis was getting sick and in a really bad mood just from breathing, smelling the paint fumes while painting a picture frame inside the house! The one action triggered all the emotional and bodily, cellular, memories of that miserable past life. This is so often how we remember some of them. An intense trigger either phyiscal or emotional in our now.

I understand about you feeling like you've messed up your chances of honestly and cleanly remembering this past life in Boone Indiana. Many times I deliberatly keep myself from certain information, like books etc. for this very reason. But, it dosen't matter. If you're really interested in finding out more about what you've already remembered and seen, I'd suggest finding a really good past life regression therapist to help you. Tell this person what you already remember and that you want to go fully into that man's life during that time period. You'll get details and intense emotions doing this that you'll know without any doubt, are a past life of yours.

Draco
02-03-2006, 03:19 AM
Hi Lapis,

Also, you mentioned something very telling, and it was that you were seeing through his eyes! There are usually two main ways that we 'see' past lives and one is literally through the eyes of that other person. The other way is to remain in your current life identity and consciousness while at the same time 'watch' or 'view'- like watching a movie, this other persons experiences.

This has always been my experience with other life flashes, and also with dreams. It amazed me when my sister told me that when she dreams she nearly always sees herself from the outside, which seems very peculiar to me as I never recall having had a dream like this. In any other life scenario which reels itself off in my 'third eye' I am always seeing through the eyes of that person - actually come to think off it, there is just one exception. Remember when I told you about the life as some kind of priestess who conducted a ritual in a subterrestrial temple with a network of passages within it, in which snakes were sacred and formed a significant part of the rites and rituals of worship? Well, thinking upon this has caused me to recall, that when I see myself making my way through these torchlit passages I am seeing through her eyes, yet when I get to the heart of the temple, the altar, or 'ritual room', this is when I see her from the outside where she adorns herself with serpents and invokes spirits and conducts magickal rites. I am wondering if I see from the outside during this episode because she is in a state of heightened conciousness at this point. I would imagine so. I cannot recall any other 'alternate life' flash, or dream in which I have not been seeing through the eyes in the immediate viewpoint.

Your story about the life as the stone cutter is interesting. Do you have any notion of a time period that this may have been? It is strange that all the meditation and concious attempting to retrieve some sort of past life recall can leave you feeling disappointed, yet totally without expecting it with your mind engaged in some mundane task the greatest 'flashes' will come leaving you with a profound feeling of the validity that which you have experienced extents beyond the 'here and now' and connects us with some existence beyond the tangible limits of sensual experience and the conciousness situated in the present.

I believe that I too have been enslaved, in many a life, in one way or another. I believe that I was a household slave for many a purpose in both the Greek world and the Roman empire.

There are many 'memories' that I have, and I distinguish between the 'memories' and the imagination this way: If I am imagining something, the concept is what I would call, 'ideoplastic'. The mental image can be contorted, warped, altered, adjusted or coloured according to whatever new notion or fancy enters your head. For example, if I imagine that I am flying in a blue hot air balloon, I can instantly make it red just by thinking it, I can now make it cube shaped, now it isn't a balloon at all because I have made it disappear and I plunge to the earth in the basket before landing on a cloud. This is imagination because I can make it up as I go along. It is like guided meditation or pathworking, it is ideoplastic. One of these 'memories' on the other hand is not like this. The vision reels off in the minds eye like a film, from beginning to end of however long the snapshot is, which is usually brief, and however much I try to mould or colour the image to my own fanciful whims it only masks over the film that reels off underneath, which can only remain constant and is unalterable, but just comes complete and as it is. You cannot put anything on top of it with imagination, and if you do, then this seems to be going on in another area of the mind whereas the 'memory' is something quite separate. I hope you know what I mean, and I think you do.

I have many such visions of these other selves to share on this board, but for now I'll give someone else a chance.

Draco :wink:

Arian Maverick
02-03-2006, 03:29 AM
Here is a post from another thread (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=899&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=26) that I wish to expound upon here, where it should be more on-topic:

Although it is correct to say that I have never had this experience of motherhood before (thank goodness, teen pregnancy is an epidemic here in the US), it was far less alien to me than one may think. I have always been fascinated with pregnancy and believe that I may have been a midwife in another life...but that is a discussion for another board. However, it is interesting that this would be the example you would choose for your demonstration, because I have been debating with myself for some time if I wanted to relate these past-life inklings. I think this is the final confirmation I was looking for to guide me in that direction. Thank you.

This is a bit more difficult for me to describe than the other past life inkling (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=859&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10) I have shared on these boards because, unlike my experience with the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, there have been no specific events that led to a sudden epiphany...only something that resembles a dull ache throughout me, subtly reminding me of what I once was. In addition, I do not have a certain name from which to clarify my feelings, but the pull I feel is strong of me to suspect past life involvement...and coupled with my Virgo South Node I believe it is a possibility worth sharing.

As I stated in the quote I included above, I have always been fascinated with pregnancy...I suppose it is only natural for a young girl to be enthralled by what her body is capable of doing, but this fascination is so strong and started at such a young age that I truly wonder if there is a reason behind it. Indeed, I believe that I was a doctor or a midwife in another life.

One of the most precious gifts given to us in childhood is the ability to pretend, to play games with nothing but our own imagination and a few meager props. Unfortunately, I do not remember many of the childhood games that once gave me such joy and entertainment, but I vividly remember reenacting scenes with best friend Sarah in a game I believe we called "doctor." I am not sure of my age, but it must have been somewhere around kindergarten...definitely before I could have possibly known of the details and dynamics of birth. Now, I am the youngest child in my family and my best friend was an only child for many years, so I do not believe that either of us had had intimate experiences with pregnancy before. Nevertheless, our little game involved both of us taking turns lying down on her bed with a doll stuffed under our shirts, while the other would proceed to deliver the "baby;" I even remember telling her to "push" on occasion. My parents had never initiated such a discussion at this time in my life, so how could I have possibly known this?

I believe that I even recall the first (or if not the first, than one of the early times) I asked my mother the dreaded "Where do babies come from?" question....I was in early grammar school, perhaps eight years old, settled comfortably in the back seat as my mother pulled the car into the driveway when the question unexpectedly burst from my lips. After deliberating her answer for a moment of so, I believe she responded with a generic "they grow in a mommy's belly" response. However, I thought back to my Magic School Bus Explores the Human Body CD-ROM, which I played devoutly, and was not satisfied with her answer. "Isn't the stomach where digestion takes place?" I asked, proud of the two big words I had recently learned. "How could a baby grow in there?" I believe my mother was silent, but I vividly remember deducing that a baby had to grow in another organ (yet another big word I had recently added to my arsenal) somewhere around that area. I would not have Health for at least another five years.

Perhaps most interesting at all, somewhere around later grammar school/early middle school I stumbled upon a real, quite graphic video of childbirth on my BodyWorks CD-ROM (yup, I loved my computer then too) but although I was taken aback by its nature, I wasn't shocked or disgusted at all! In fact, I even remember innocently showing it to a few of my friends, thinking it was the coolest thing ever...and let's just say their reactions were not quite as innocuous :wink:

One last thing before I close up this post...although young girls sometimes dream about their future husbands and having children of their own, I have never expressed a desire to do so myself. Even at this young age, I always seemed wary about the process of bringing a child into the world; I somehow knew it would be incredibly painful, even before I had heard of contractions.

Sorry, if I disturbed any of you...this was slightly awkward for me too, but I believe it had to be shared.

Aquarian Maverick

sita
02-03-2006, 04:31 AM
I find my past, future and future present lives by dreaming.

An interesting story I hope you all can follow: About this time last year, I had a dream that resonated on a very deep level. It involved being with my hunter/gatherer tribe in an arid climate, not sure where geographically. We were in a dried riverbed, picking reeds and grasses. We communicated telepathicly, and all of sudden we all knew that the river was coming back and was about to flood those who were in it. We had the option of going to shore and getting out of the way, or riding with the current. Of course I chose to ride the current (whoopie!!!) and was suddenly swept in a giant tidal flood along with most of my tribe. Once we got our heads above water, we were in the most gloious current and were all so excited. The water was murky, but through it I could vaguely see that all these sea lions (!!!) had washed up with the river and were swimming with us in unbelieveable numbers. Everywhere, and God did I love them.

We rode the current for a bit longer, and then part of my spirit decided that it wanted to continue down the river because that part of me was our tribe's mediator whose job it was to communicate with other tribes and arrange intial inter-tribal contact so we could trade or live in peace. I felt a little nervous about allowing part of my my spirit to split from me , but figured, I'd have some faith in my ability to return to myself, so we parted. and I (central dreaming character) got off the river and entered into this cave in the earth whose entrance was an visibly different and sparkly energy field. I walked through this red-earthen tunnel whose parameters consciously shifted to make way for me as I moved through it, and I realized in the earthen 'walls" were filled with honeybees and their hives. (In this life and others I have worked with bees who are messengers of love and feminine energy.) I kept walking through thias tunnel, until I finally got to the core of the cave, where I met up with other members of my tribe and we all shared our experiences. I don't reemember any of them, but for one man distinctly.

I saw and remembered his face, and at that point my spirit who had been with the neighboring tribes came back to me and I(central dreaming character having cave experience) became conscious of the knowlegde embedded in the part of my spirit that had had another journey, and I (as lucid dreamer 2005 having this experience) became conscious of myself dreaming the dream in bed, conscious as myself in the dream, and conscious as the peacemaking spirit. It was at that moment that all three consciousnesses who were independenly conscious all became conscious of each other at the same moment and we all sort of flipped a circuit in the shock of recognizings that there are three of us and we're all individually conscious but we're all exactly the same unified consciousness. !!!!! Whoah!!!

And if this wasn't enough of a whopper, two weeks ago I started a new job and I actually WORK with this man I saw in my dream, and his office, I guess you could say, is like a nice friendly cave. I was drawn to him immediately when I started working there, but only just today remembered THIS VERY GUY was in the the dream I had about this time exactly last year.

Sweet dreams :idea: ,
Sita

Lapis
02-04-2006, 04:05 AM
I just read through everyone's posts and this calls for a http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6215/grouphug0df.gif group hug! Really great stuff everyone!

Draco,

The stone cutter lived in Italy in the mid 16th century during the renaissance.

You so perfectly discribed the difference between an imagined 'thing' what you called "ideoplastic", and remembering a real past life one's lived. The real past life is what it is and won't change no matter what our minds try to do to it, thank god! Plus the emotional intensity of a real past/future life is SO strong, SO alive and fresh. I remember some past lives more vividly than what I did the year I was say.....36.

Yes I remember your Serpent Priestess Initiate! "I am wondering if I see from the outside during this episode because she is in a state of heightened consciousness at this point. I would think so." Absolutely correct Draco! This is the case with viewing past lives, dreams, meditations, or deliberately expanding our consciousness. We start to.....go multidimensional.

Aquarius Maverick,

All I could think of while reading your post was the connection between your Virgo South Node and all the typical Virgonian stuff like health, medical things in general, physical body issues etc., doctors and midwives!!! :wink:

And also your great responce as a little child to your Mom, "Isn't the stomach where digestion takes place?" Again such a South Node in Virgo answer! Yes it sure is sounding like you've been a doctor and/or a Midwife in one or more past lives. I can almost see this male doctor!

This is wild! We may on this thread, actually reveal some pretty clear evidence with our remembered past lives discussions, and some of our current natal placements!!! If we can't figure this out going at it from left brian to right, then maybe the other way around will work better! :lol: Who knows what we'll discover with all this?!

sita,

That was such a huge discovery you made through that dream! You my dear, are starting to function using more of your 'self' consciously and saw the edges of being a Multidimensional Being functioning in multiple times/locations all at the same 'time'!

Also you mentioned something highly important and a big clue. This time of year and our dreams and connecting with powerful inner elements in general. That's what this time of year is all about for us humans. From the Winter Solstice through to the Spring Equinox is the really deep and potent period out of the whole year. It's the time when we can easily go within and access the otherworldly, like Shamans do at any time. It sounds like you should pay attention to what you go through both from the Dream World and what may manifest into this world from it. Wow......great stuff. This new job should be somethin'! :wink:

Draco
02-04-2006, 09:41 AM
Hi all,

AquaMav,

Something I forgot to mention on my last post.

Thanks for the advice Draco...but unfortunately, I'm more clueless with synastry and horary than I am with natal astrology

If you were to ask a past life question, I would be happy to have a go at interpreting it for you. I'm sure Fensi and Sorehearted would be willing to have a go as well.

Lapis said:

All I could think of while reading your post was the connection between your Virgo South Node and all the typical Virgonian stuff like health, medical things in general, physical body issues etc., doctors and midwives!!!

This also caused me to think of your past life at the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory (such an odd name!). Virgo is all forms of service, routine and 'jobs'. Aside from doctors and midwives, a factory production line would also be a very Virgoan thing.

Do you know the event data for the fire at the Factory? I wonder what the synastry would be to your natal? It might prove an interesting exercise. If you did die in that fire in a previous existence, then the chart for the event would represent your death in that life, hence a 'mortal chart', which would make interesting comparison to the chart for your birth into this life.

Sita,

I find my past, future and future present lives by dreaming.

I believe that I have only had this experience once. I had a very peculiar dream that I woke up in bed as a Japanese woman, in one of those beds with no legs that lie flat on the floor. I won't relate what happened in the dream as I find it incredibly personal, but I will always remember it as it was very, very strange of me to dream that I was actually another person, especially of a different sex and race. I feel this may have reflected a past, or at least an 'other' life.

Draco :wink:

Arian Maverick
02-04-2006, 05:01 PM
And also your great responce as a little child to your Mom, "Isn't the stomach where digestion takes place?" Again such a South Node in Virgo answer! Yes it sure is sounding like you've been a doctor and/or a Midwife in one or more past lives. I can almost see this male doctor!

It is interesting that you mentioned seeing me as a male doctor, because I also received this impression. Does the city of Berlin resonate with you? The reason I ask is because I have had some modest success with automatic writing throughout the years, and when I asked this of my spirit guide(s) once I believe this is the answer I received.

Do you know the event data for the fire at the Factory? I wonder what the synastry would be to your natal? It might prove an interesting exercise. If you did die in that fire in a previous existence, then the chart for the event would represent your death in that life, hence a 'mortal chart', which would make interesting comparison to the chart for your birth into this life.

Yes, I do! The fire occured on March 25, 1911 in the Asch Building (ash = fire) of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory near closing time on a Saturday afternoon...Bertha Zeltner Wondross was one of the 146 out of 500 workers who died, but supposedly she survived long enough to be admitted to St. Vincent's Hospital for internal injuries. Thank you! :D

EDIT: Here is the new rectified chart in case anyone is interested...I just found out that the fire started just before closing time at 4:45 PM, so I will use this time instead of noon.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/67/updatedtriangleshirtwaistfirec.png (http://imageshack.us)

Aquarian Maverick

P.S. This changes the Ascendent to Virgo, which is the location of my South Node...interesting :wink:

Arian Maverick
02-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Since I can't find the last place I posted my natal chart, I'll post it here again for convenience:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6952/mynatalchart0sx.png (http://imageshack.us)

Thank you, everyone!

Aquarian Maverick

Draco
02-05-2006, 01:44 AM
Here's the synastry between your natal and the past life event:

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4140/acharti3ffileg6dmjdu1117991293.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Three things strike me on this.

First, the event Moon on your AC.

Event Chiron on your North Node, and therefore opposite your South!

Event Sun upon your Moon!

The Moon of the event upon your ascendant may reflect that much of how you approach the world, and your birth into this life has been coloured by the emotional imprint that this fire had upon you. The emotional current of the event is channeled through in the way you entered into the world and have been emerging and evolving as a personality since your nativity. What were the circumstances of your delivery into this life and how might they reflect the traumatic emotional imprint that this event left upon your soul? I understand that your past incarnation died some time after this event chart, but at this time she would have been trapped in a burning building. The Moon represents memory, and it reveals that the memory of the event quickened the soul into incarnation. The event Moon is also joined by Mars in your 1st house. I actually wonder if you have or did have any birth marks when you were born or any unusual physical characteristics which may reveal injuries that the former incarnation sustained in the past life trauma.

It is interesting how there are conjunctions here involving both the Moon of the event and the Moon of your natal. As I said the Moon is memory and emotional energy. Your Moon (memory) upon the event's Sun (fire) is self explanatory. Your Moon is in the event's 7th house ('memory' of the 'other one').

Your nodes are aligned with Chiron, but I am one of those who doesn't like to consider Chiron, but I must admit I am intrigued in this case. I am sure Lapis would have much to say on this placement, but the fact that you were 'wounded' in that life is undoubtable and you are carrying it over as part of the destiny you must fulfil in this. I see the North Node and South Node as the axis of destiny and fate. Somehow it is part of the destiny you must unfold and the path of greatest resistance you must endeavour to tread to try and encounter the souls wound's recieved in that existence. A past life exploration through regression would be more appropriate to you than most and probably difficult to undergo. The emotional impact the event had on you is evident in the event Moons conjunction with your AC, you were born to remember the trauma of that life and destined to conquer it's demon's. The natal South node, fate, the unalterable, in opposition to the event's Chiron reveals that it will be your path of least resistance to flee it's painful and difficult lessons but you must encounter them head on, perhaps in order to avoid running again through habitual patterns of old.

I'm wittering on. I best get some sleep. I don't know much about Chiron anyway. This synastry is really interesting, and you're really lucky, not only to have a memory of the life, but to have a very significant past life event chart to work with.

If you even think you know the name of this past incarnation, a bit of research in New York's records of births and deaths may even yield her birth natal and mortal data.

Draco :wink:

Arian Maverick
02-05-2006, 02:31 AM
You have no idea how excited I am that you got around to this today...thank you! :D

The Moon of the event upon your ascendant may reflect that much of how you approach the world, and your birth into this life has been coloured by the emotional imprint that this fire had upon you. The emotional current of the event is channeled through in the way you entered into the world and have been emerging and evolving as a personality since your nativity. What were the circumstances of your delivery into this life and how might they reflect the traumatic emotional imprint that this event left upon your soul?

The funny thing is that I was born EXACTLY on my due date...my parents always like to tease me that I had an important schedule to follow even before my delivery :roll:

As far as my knowledge goes, my mother wasn't induced into labor and had a natural vaginal birth. She never revealed any complications of my delivery, only recommending that I eat a big lasagna dinner if I ever became pregnant and wanted to induce labor; my older brother and I were both supposedly born after she ingested Italian cuisine :lol:

In fact, I have heard more about my brother's birth than I have my own, which leads me to believe that it was relatively uneventful as far as births go. My poor brother was born several weeks early and his shoulders became stuck during delivery; I believe he even had a cone head from the experience! But as for me, I'll have to find out more information...artifice is all well and good, but sometimes Aries bluntness is what is needed to get the job done :wink:

I understand that your past incarnation died some time after this event chart, but at this time she would have been trapped in a burning building. The Moon represents memory, and it reveals that the memory of the event quickened the soul into incarnation. The event Moon is also joined by Mars in your 1st house. I actually wonder if you have or did have any birth marks when you were born or any unusual physical characteristics which may reveal injuries that the former incarnation sustained in the past life trauma.

Again, I don't believe that I did...the closest thing to a birth mark I have is a little brown mole above my right elbow. I have freckles, but nothing truly outstanding. I wish I had more interesting information to give you :?

It is interesting how there are conjunctions here involving both the Moon of the event and the Moon of your natal. As I said the Moon is memory and emotional energy. Your Moon (memory) upon the event's Sun (fire) is self explanatory. Your Moon is in the event's 7th house ('memory' of the 'other one').

Your nodes are aligned with Chiron, but I am one of those who doesn't like to consider Chiron, but I must admit I am intrigued in this case. I am sure Lapis would have much to say on this placement, but the fact that you were 'wounded' in that life is undoubtable and you are carrying it over as part of the destiny you must fulfil in this. I see the North Node and South Node as the axis of destiny and fate. Somehow it is part of the destiny you must unfold and the path of greatest resistance you must endeavour to tread to try and encounter the souls wound's recieved in that existence. A past life exploration through regression would be more appropriate to you than most and probably difficult to undergo. The emotional impact the event had on you is evident in the event Moons conjunction with your AC, you were born to remember the trauma of that life and destined to conquer it's demon's. The natal South node, fate, the unalterable, in opposition to the event's Chiron reveals that it will be your path of least resistance to flee it's painful and difficult lessons but you must encounter them head on, perhaps in order to avoid running again through habitual patterns of old.

Wow...being that I can't remember the faintest detail of this life, I'm surprised that it carries such a profound lesson.

I'm wittering on. I best get some sleep. I don't know much about Chiron anyway. This synastry is really interesting, and you're really lucky, not only to have a memory of the life, but to have a very significant past life event chart to work with.

Like I said before, I don't have any memories to work with persay, but I do have my intuition. And yes, I am blessed in many ways...everyone is :wink:

Get some sleep, Draco...and I should follow my own advice. I suppose it's much later/earlier for you in England, though. I thank you for staying awake this long to give me such an insightful interpretation...like I said on the soccer horary post today, you are truly gifted.

If you even think you know the name of this past incarnation, a bit of research in New York's records of births and deaths may even yield her birth natal and mortal data.

That's a great idea, but I don't know how to even begin to do this...any ideas?

Aquarian Maverick

P.S. I just noticed that you have me down as a male on my natal chart, but I don't think it really matters with the interpretation...

Lapis
02-05-2006, 08:12 PM
Draco,

Wow! Very well done, thanks for doing this for all of us! This is amazing and how perfect that there was a clear date and time that Aquarian Maverick found for this. She and I talked briefly about this "Triangle Shirtale" factory business on another thread and we both were surprised to find out that we'd each seen this story on a TV program awhile ago! Things are being directed here once again it seems and I think you've supplied the magical connection for us all. Good catch also on the factory work and Virgo etc., I forgot that aspect of it.

Yes with Chiron and the N. Node conjunct, it indicates where a big 'wound' is both physically and psychologically. We carry our "past" lives around in us - body and soul - now and often the actual physical wounds will also be present in this current life, but in a slightly different form. I'm going to have to spend more time going over this chart you've provided for us all. Very interesting!

Arian Maverick
02-05-2006, 11:57 PM
I also have some clues as to how my prior incarnation died...Bertha Wondross was one of the view people on the Victims Chart who had additional information other than name and age:

right leg broken, internal injuries; St. Vincent Hospital

I've never had any problems with my right leg that I can remember though, and the phrase "internal injuries" is vague...I have more information than I could possible dream of having, but I can't seem to do any good with it :?

Aquarian Maverick

Narcissus
02-06-2006, 03:32 PM
Ah... hehe as Aquarian Maverick suggested, I should post my replies and repost my story here :P Haven't noticed the past life thread in the general chat :P


Will it be a bit too late posting this reply? :roll:

I was really impressed after reading through Aquarian Maverick's experience of past life.

Here goes mine
Date back when I was a child, I watched a movie about the ancient Chinese making human into clay statues and burrying them alive. I cried fiercely while I was watching that scene. It was like 3 years old when I watched that movie, and 19 years later I could still remember that scene clearly. At the very beginning, I didn't link the movie up with my own experiences for I was only a kid at that time and thought that was only something fictitious. In the later school life, I started to learn keywords of my own language as well as English (ah yes I do not speak English as my primary language:P). I found myself being very sensitive to the word "suffocation" no matter what kind of language it is. I couldn't spell and pronounce difficult words correctly when I was a kid except that one. Everytime I read through Chinese history up to the time at around 300 B.C, in which the king of Qun dynasty burried 400k people alive, my hands couldn't stop shaking, and I feel like I go through the feeling of suffocation again. The feeling is horrible that I could stop keep deep breathing.
My mom told me during the time my father died when I was 6, I requested to check carefully if father was really dead, I said not to bury those who are alive by mistake. (I couldn't remember if I had really said these, I was told by my mom)

Until the time I got in touch with astrology, it was the first time I tried to link up the clues I found in this life. By using the approach by AT Mann in another thread, I've got my moon dated back my past life in 366 B.C in which my moon stands alone in the buchet pattern

Once I glimpsed through an essay about Ketu and Rahu of Vedic astrology, (just very occasionally, Vedic theories are too difficult for my standard) it said when south node lies in 12th house it is more easily to experience the feeling from past lives and you should learn your tasks through it. I don't know if the essay explains correctly, but I do have my south node in 12th conjuncting my Uranus in Sagittarius (hmm, I am still trying to figure out what's the meaning of that conjunction, any ideas? :P )

Sometimes right before I get into my dream when I sleep, some scenes sound familiar to me blink through my head. I couldn't clearly distinguish them between imaginations and experiences cause I blame it onto my day-dreaming skill brought by my neptune -asc conjunction.

Well well, I don't know if I've gone to far and got off-topic. :P Just some of my experience sharing :P

Cheers
Enid


Narcissus,

We have a wise saying here in the USA and it goes....."Out of the mouths of babes!"

Everytime I'd pass by them, they'd be waving and smiling at me. I however was like a 40 year old driving on the freeway at rush hour! Typical Capricorn! There's photos to prove this sad fact. :roll: When the ride stopped and they helped me off it, they asked me why I wasn't having fun and if I was afraid. I begged for them to let me back on the ride again because I loved the horses. I told them that, "One must pay close attention whenever riding a horse because one could die if not careful."



Yes, sometimes what children say do make sense. However I wasn't as lucky as you were. Whenever I tried to tell my parents my fears and dreams when I was small, they always told me to shut up and not to speak anything that were non sense. (their reactions somehow affected my characteristics, I can't express my emotions and ideas well, and I prefer to express all my feelings through art forms instead of talking, what a tragedy :cry: )


400 thousand people died from being buried alive by some Chinese *&#* ruler. Can we say karma??? Wow! Are you doing OK with this issue now? My mom died from suffocation in a past life too and she still gets freaked out when she has trouble breathing in this life. She has asmatha, chronic bronchits and it turns into pnuemonia really easily in this life. Makes you wonder dosen't it?

It's lucky that I don't have much to deal with the suffocation thing now :wink: (It happened long ago and there were some other lives within) but still, I scare anything that could block me from breathing, like I would be extra cautious when I swim or swallow, the feeling of getting choked reminds me the panic moments of suffocation again.

By the way, I just realized that I've got a clay doll on my desk imitating the crafts of 366 B.C, that's a souveniar from Beijing like 10 years ago. What a coincidence?

I couldn't really remember the scenes that happened to me, but through gathering scattered pieces and clues from my feelings towards objects and also through meditations, I've got 2 more experiences that reminds me of the feelings from another 2 past lives.

Like I've said, I was not allowed to express my fears towards dreams since my family members considered those were something imaginative. I could remember I got a nightmare kept repeating since the age of 3 though, the dream had affected me quite profoundly that I kept having it occasionally throughout years.

The dream started when I was being chased by a group of "thing". I was too young at that time and I didn't know what the hell were these, and now I know: those are soldiers wearing shinny black armors, they were all covered up with black masks, I couldn't see their faces. I kept being chased until I arrived at a black, giant and fast moving machine crashing towards me. Everytime The giant machine crahed on me, time freezed and I awaken.

I stopped having this dream 4 years ago after I visited the metropolian museum. My boyfriend is a crazy armor lover that I was forced to accompany him to the world armor section in the museum. I was stunned when I saw the shinny black armors of Japanese officers. Those were exactly the same with the thing which were chasing me in my dream since I was young. I had bad feelings looking at all those armed figures and I urged to leave that place which made me sick. (I started to question, and I suspected that crazy armor lover boyfriend was one of those who chased and threatened me)

However, I still couldn't figure out the giant machine thing. I casted the fears onto fast moving trains. When I was young, I afraid of those trains in my hometown which were painted in black, transporting pigs from one place to another. Everytime those trains moved pass me, I really scare they would hit on me.


The other time when I was having my meditation, I saw I was a shaman of American Indian, making herbs into medicine paste in some clay pots. I've got 2 students that I could recognise one of them was my friend who learns tarot from me. It was a small village, and my home was a tent built with straws.

I couldn't believe that cause I've never seen any scenes like this when I had my meditations before. I don't know anything about the American Indians, so why would I see these? The feeling was so real, that I could tell those pots with blue paintings contains the medicine I made.
Well, I don't have any connections with the Indians except that I addicted to no Disney's cartoons except Pocahontas (I really addicted to it, everything was so attracting:P), and I've got a Dreamcatcher which I have no idea where it came from. :?


Ahh, btw, I've gotta work on my painting homework now, or my teacher would bash me to hell tomorrow. (sigh, I've got some problems in school with my transitting neptune squaring my saturn and mars, despair :cry: )
Nice talking with you guys that I dare not to reveal these to others, they would think I'm crazy :lol:

Cheers
Enid

Lapis
02-06-2006, 10:48 PM
Narcissus,

I'm so glad you copied those posts to this thread.

That's great that you, through your boyfriend who loves ancient armor, (I think you're probably right about him being involved in some way with your Japanese past life) were able to put more of the pieces together. It sounds like more and more of this life and possible another one are wanting to be totally integrated in you now. I've discovered that there can sometimes be a few other deeper layers of emotion with certain past/future lives that need more work done on them than others.

Arian Maverick
02-06-2006, 11:09 PM
Yes, this thread is getting fascinating! Thanks for reposting here, Narcissus! :wink:

Like Lapis said, perhaps the most difficult task of all is fully integrating these past lives into who we are today. We have lived so many times before, either on this earth plane or in different dimensions, yet most of us are hardly able to remember any of it! Perhaps this would be less challenging if each lifetime were completely separate from the others...but in our multidimensional universe, separation is an illusion! It only exists because we have decided to make it so! Therefore, I believe our subconscious memory is intimately affected by traumatic experiences, and we will always have some attraction to what we have seen before. I find this all completely fascinating...keep sharing those memories and impressions, everyone! :D

Aquarian Maverick

Kite
03-14-2006, 02:56 PM
Yesterday I was hypnotized and put through a past life regression. I was apprehensive about what to expect. I found it to be very much like a guided meditation.

My experience began with a life in Roman times as I landed on earth with sandals on my feet and a toga like garment I was carrying a scroll in my hand. I was bearded and about 30 years old. These first pictures were almost cartoon like as they made their way into my consciousness. I received a name - Romus and it seemed to be around the time of Caesar. I could see a beautiful wife and when I was asked who she was in present time I reluctantly gave my daughter's name as I was not comfortable with this. I was asked how I died and I saw that I died in battle - asked who killed me and I came up with a name of kid that bullied me in elementary school. Asked what happened to the body and got it was dragged home to my father who was my father in this life as well. What lesson had I learned..I had been too political putting my heart ahead of my mind to the point I had been imprisoned (I was a scribe or publisher of something). Sent to war as punishment for political views.

Next life I was a young girl maybe 12/13. I was floating barefoot in a flannel nightgown with a knife in my hand. I had light brown hair and was fair skinned. I came to a huge hall. It was empty. I was asked where I was and I said it looked like the hall at Ellis Island. I was asked who I was and I said I was a ghost. I was asked what my name was and I said Greta. I was asked what year it was to look at the calendar and first I saw 1945 then it went back to 1943. I was asked where I was and I said Germany. I was asked what was going on at the hall and I said it was a camp then I was in the countryside at my home and very happy with family. I was asked about the mother and if I knew her in this life and I couldn't tell. I was asked if my present wife was there and I said I think so that she was one of the kids. I was asked about another woman I know in this life and if she was there and I said yes and that I think she was a traitor. I was asked again how I died and I said I see a chimney and smoke coming out. I said I was killed in the camp. We went though dialogue on lessons learned and I moved on.

Next life I landed with Army boots. I was German again but in WW1. My name was Wilhelm. I was pudgy and oafish. Asked where I was and I was in a trench. Asked how I died and I was shot in the head. asked by whom and I said I didn't know. What did I learn from that life - not to be just a follower and lazy. To have goals and work towards them.

Next life I was a Native American. Had a brown and white Pinto. Had a family - wife was my present wife's sister. Had some kids. Life was spend in a spiritual way tied to nature and its cycles. Was very satisfied living this way. Scenery was beautiful..big sky purple sunsets. Lessons were to connect with nature and to honor it.

Next life I was before a large crowd who seemed to be at my command. I felt I was in the Greco-Roman period. I felt blind to any softness in me - I was all hard and masculine. I was sending people to war - knowing there would be huge losses. I had a huge ego and was fierce and brutal but felt these things did not see them. I felt I was killed with a sword. My stepfather was somehow involved in that life. Tragic circumstances seemed to be a theme in that life. Lessons were around using power to serve and not abuse and to develop the feminine side of the personality to balance the masculine.

Asked is had lived during the time of Christ and answered yes. Asked my role and said I was part of the opposition to change but eventually was more open-minded. My present wife was also my wife then.

Asked what lives my mother had been in I saw her as a bearded man I was married to. He was very aggressive with me. That's all I saw.

Asked about what life my sister had been in. I saw a plantation in the south. I felt I was a slave and she was part of the master's family. Did not get into the life.

There were indications I had lived in Atlantis. involved with crystals but from a positive serving perspective. Was some kind of guardian.

We then went through some karmic forgiveness work to release pain, sorrow judgment to all involved in these lives. I was then introduced to my spirit guide. We had a conversation answering some questions about these lives and how to contact again and do more work. I then did some affirmations and was counted back into normal waking state.

Last night I felt very ungrounded as my mind was processing all of this. When I slept I began to get some more glimpses of these lives for instance say an old teapot on a stove in Greta's life. Whereas much of the visions from the session came as impressions and was shadowy, these pictures were much more vivid and lifelike. I can't keep that up to long as I feel some fear seeing such a vivid picture of past life memories. I know it will get better as I become more secure in my control over the experiences.

I was given a worksheet to photocopy for each life to help process the past-life journeys in a framework similar to how I was guided by the hpnotherapist. The 2 1/2 hours felt like an hour when all was said and done. I felt a little skeptical about how valid my experience was but as I see the vivid pictures, I feel more validated in the manner the stories were shown to me. I think they had to be foggy for me not to get too emotionally involved and shut down.

I hope this gives a sense of what to expect in a past life regression session and would love to hear about anyone else's experience.

Kite

Elianah
03-14-2006, 03:50 PM
I have had several past life readings and regressions. I find the regressions much more valuable because I can integrate the experience at a much deeper level than a reading. A reading for me seems to be a very nice story that might possibly have happened but I usually do not find the resonnances with me as I do regressions.

The thing I have noticed about regressions for myself is that I must fully trust the person who is guiding me since I do not know what I will find. If I feel the person is going to judge me on who I am now by who I was in the past, I will not have the reading/regression with that person.

I have also noticed that some of the regressionists I have used in the past also have had some type of past life connection with me.

Anyway, here are a couple of my interesting past lives:

An alchemist/vintner around Lyon, France c. 1650s. I had a big estate with some of the best vines in the region. I loved winemaking but my first mistress was alchemy. I wasn't as interested in turning lead into gold, as some of my counterparts in the region were, because my estate was fertile and produced excellent crops, no matter what was affecting the surrounding region. I understood irrigation and fertilization, and knew how to control the pests and blights so my vines would not be damaged. I was admired and feared around the region for this ability. There was whisperings that I was a witch because of this. Those people usually shyed away from me and they weren't great in number. I had a very rich social life and was respected in the area for my healing abilities. I have a feeling that some of my wines were herbal elixirs that helped relieve illnesses. I had a great understanding of the medicinal uses of plants and used this to help others and never charged for the work I did. I also made sure that the people who worked on my estate were always fed well and had good shelter and clothing. I understood my prosperity was based on their prosperity, so I made sure they were well cared for. My downfall came when some type of epidemic came through and my gifts failed me. There was a person I cared for deeply and could not heal him, no matter what I did herbally or alchemically. When he died I figuratively died, and wasted away, losing my skills and my estate. I died a pauper, uncared for in some debtor's prison. I think I only lived about four or five years afterwards.

A couple of friends and I had a past life together as Minoans shortly before the eruption that destroyed that beautiful land and our beautiful culture. We were a bunch of spoiled brats, always wanting our way and usually getting it. We weren't hooligans, by any stretch of the imagination, but more of the Paris Hilton-type (yech!) of the day. We were musicians/storytellers that some considered oracles. We never understood why. We travelled a lot, and told of what we saw in other lands. When the volcano blew, we were on a ship returning to Akrotiri and were lost at sea from all the fury of the volcanic eruption. Before we died we were talking and wondering why, if people felt we were oracles, we could not see this cataclysm happening.

Elianah

glykeria
03-14-2006, 04:10 PM
Kite,
What an awesome experience for you. Past life regression is of much interest to me. I always had deep attractions to the ocean and the South and I really get a "sense " of having been a plantation owner even though I have never seen a plantation and live in Ohio far from any ocean. My feeling is also one of regret I know I was not a very nice person I can sense I was cruel and that is a struggle for me as I am deeply empathetic to the human experience and in my work I strive to end sufferring and I know I caused so much of it. Anyway how would one go about finding a trustworthy therapist to take me on this journey through past lives??? It seems to me that there is the opportunity for many fakes in this area. If you or anyone has any tips on how to do this I would be so greatful. This may sound strange but as I read your post I knew this was something that I need to do. I feel like I need to purge my soul whatever that means. It is more of a force pulling me towards this avenue of discovery.
Glykeria (Ohio)

Kite
03-14-2006, 04:59 PM
Hi Glykeria. You might try a directory like this. My person advertised in it but I think a conversation about qualifications, experience, success rate and what to expect are a good way to see if you click.
http://www.bodymindspiritdirectory.org/

glykeria
03-14-2006, 05:42 PM
WENT TO THE SITE KITE :D someone in my area jumped right out at me now I am seriously considering calling, just don't have the extra cash now and I hate to use those cards. I just might call anyway. I will keep you posted I know I am going to do it just not sure when. Hey a new thought I wonder if astrologically there is a best time for me to get a past life regression, like when I and the stars would be more in tune with the past or more receptive??? any thoughts?
Glykeria I thought of that question at 1340. :)

Elianah
03-14-2006, 05:55 PM
Glykeria,

Merc Rx would be a good time to do it because a regression allows one to review and relearn from the past. The particular Merc Rx may show you how you will intellectually react to the information you gather.

Just my thoughts...

Elianah

C1
03-14-2006, 07:11 PM
:) Elianah,
I love your writing
of past-lives.
Eloquent.
ThANKS!
C1

Lapis
03-14-2006, 11:49 PM
Kite,

Are you pleased with having gone through this? Did it give you some of the answers you were looking for? It sounded like you covered a lot of ground (pun intended) and made many connections with current life family members also. It always amazes me how we usually travel in packs like this. In one life you're the Mom to so and so and in another life the roles are tweeked around a bit so that everyone gets to play all the roles, if needed and desired. Very normal and common.

You may find now that you've made first contact and opened the Door that more and more pieces from these different past lives, past you's, will continue to bleed through giving you a much larger perspective of you and this natal chart. Don't worry about reviewing what you've already lived and died! It can only help IMO. Sounds like you did great.

Kite
03-15-2006, 03:33 AM
Kite,

Are you pleased with having gone through this? Did it give you some of the answers you were looking for?

Lapis,

I am pleased that I took this step to not only open the door as you put it but to also set the intention to uncover more memories that relate to open issues in this lifetime.

In this time of my Chiron return in the 12th house it seems totally appropriate to bring these aspects into my awareness. In fact, at one point in the journey the question of my purpose this time around came up and the answer was "awareness and aliveness". Awareness meaning a very expanded awareness that could be defined as multi-dimensional.

I see these various selves as co-existing simultanously. I am getting bleed throughs and have actually had some very apparant ones in my 20s around the time of the first Chiron square. I look at the events that triggered them and am beginning to see the relationship between the life that was lived then and the circumstances today. I can't get into the specifics at this point because some are very personal - but yes..I'm getting answers to some questions I've been asking for a long time. Questions like why certain compulsions? Why so defensive and mistrusting? Why so much de javu in my life.

As far as my chart goes - I am seeing reasons for things, for instance my Mars/Moon in Aries intercepted in the first house. I think this directly relates to the life where I let impulse truly rule not just me but many others. The interception was just that..a diversion from free action and being forced to soften it (Pisces intercepts Aries on the cusp of the 2nd house where the planets are). I have had to de-personalize this tremendous amount of Aries energy to make it work in a higher consciousness manner (Neptune in Scorpio in 9).

My Venus unaspected in Scorpio and ruler of my South Node speaks to the past survival (Taurus) that a young girl might have to resign herself to as well as the horrors confronting her (South Node conjunct Algol). But with Venus in 9 along with Neptune - an undying faith in justice and revenge. Of course the revenge needs to be transmuted to seeing things in their higher purpose and is a great example of how this work can heal not just me but her as well.

Putting the pieces together and understanding how life A relates to life B gives me a sense of cause and effect or karmic issues and how they've driven key themes. I do know that this life is the most important one and the one that will unite these selves into a unity that can carry the conscioussness we're moving into..but that's a whole other story.

Kite

Lapis
03-15-2006, 03:47 AM
Kite,

You're holding open, more and more, the beginnings of conscious multidimensional consciousness - of your being a multidimensional Being. I too have been doing this and its.........what's the word???.........so perfect in its complexity it makes your heart hurt in a really good way. You should be proud of all the inner/outer work/healings you're doing now and your timing was great for this! :)

MidnightDevil
03-15-2006, 10:31 AM
Hi AquaMav,

if only I could read something that would jump-start a past life memory...any suggestions?

How about a horary chart? Just an idea.

As for a book, just look for something with a compilation of different example of past life regression cases, there may be something within that resonates with you.

I don't see why a question regarding a past life can't be read in a horary. Then rather than waiting for a memory flash by reading a book, the charts answer may prompt a recall of something significant.

Draco :wink:


Draco, your post dragged my attention.

Yesterday I was thinking of posting a horary question related to past life events. And today, you proposed a horary for it. Interesting.

IMO, I don't think horary will answer it, but we can give it a try right? :)

Any ideas?

Kite
03-15-2006, 04:51 PM
Kite,

You're holding open, more and more, the beginnings of conscious multidimensional consciousness - of your being a multidimensional Being. I too have been doing this and its.........what's the word???.........so perfect in its complexity it makes your heart hurt in a really good way. You should be proud of all the inner/outer work/healings you're doing now and your timing was great for this!


Lapis,

I don't feel I've had much of a choice on this. The alternative is heart pain in a bad way :(

Empath
04-03-2006, 12:36 AM
Fascinating posts, everyone. Sita, your lucid dream is potent on many levels -- it's rolling around in my head.

Past lives come to me in flashes, often when I talk to someone, I see them in another time and place, so most of my recall is in little segments. I did do a regression once in a group setting, and the question I posed to myself was "why an editor?" I flashed through time, experiencing life as a scribe in some antidiluvial civilization (Atlantis?), Egypt, Asia, North Africa, the mideast, and as a monk in Europe. It seems that I've scribed through time and around the world. One of my editor bosses -- the one Imet through extraordinary circumstances -- was a pal of mine in the monastery. I worked for this guy for months, and one day, I just saw him as my dear monk friend.

My best past lives story concerns mydaughter. I wrote this and submitted it to Kajama, where it won the Strangely True story of the week. Here it is -- all as I experienced it. BTW, Mia has a 12th house Uranus, Neptune and Saturn in Capricorn stellium opposite Chiron in Cancer.


Toddler's Russian Past Life Memories

by Eileen


This is a true story. First I must explain that we live in New Jersey, and there are no Slavic, Russian or Nordic cultural influences in our family or even in this area. Also, I had total control over the TV in my house at this time, and we never watched the news or any police or rescue shows. I didn't even learn about the rescue measure of cutting off the clothes of hypothermia victims until after my three-year-old began to tell me these stories.

My daughter Mia was about eight months old when she began to sit up and play. One of the first things she often did was take a baby blanket and put it on her head and hold it babushka-style. Mia talked at a very young age. By the age of two, she used to put her "babushka" on her head and would tell us to call her Anna. We had to pronounce it Ah-nah, however, or she would get upset and correct us.

When she played as Anna, she had imaginary playmates too: Sonja and Anjuska. Anjuska was Anna's sister, and Sonja was her aunt. These characters were always consistent. Mia played as Anna almost obsessively. After a while, we began to hear more about Anna, Anjuska and Sonja. "Anna" (who of course was our little Mia) told us that Anjuska went down the drain and died, and Sonja drove Anna in her green car to a house with pink shutters. This was strange and dark stuff for a 3-year-old.

The winter that my daughter was three, there was a terrible ice storm and it was bitter cold. School was closed for the week, so the mother of one of my son's friends called and invited him to go sliding on our town's frozen lake. The ice was very thick and there was lots of supervision, so I said okay.

When Mia heard where her brother was going, she became extremely distraught. She sobbed and begged me not to let him go. She threw herself on him, sobbing and hugging him as he left.

I tried to console Mia. She was not crying with the petulance of a 3-year-old; she was sobbing with the deep grief of an adult. After a while she spoke through her tears. The words are indelibly etched in my mind, for it was chilling to see such depth of emotion from a toddler.

She did not sound like a three-year-old as she spoke: "Anjuska and I went sliding on the ice once, but it broke, Mommy, the ice broke and Anjuska fell down the hole. I pulled and I pulled and I tried and I tried to get her out but I couldn't, Mommy. I couldn't. Some people ran over and they pulled her out and then they cut off her clothes but it was too late. Anjuska died. She drowned and I couldn't help her. Sonja picked me up in her green car and we drove to her house with the pink shutters."

I hugged Mia and told her that she was a wonderful sister, that Anjuska knew she tried her best to save her, and that Anjuska forgave her and was at peace.

When Mia's brother returned, she gave him a big hug and said weepingly, "I thought I'd never see you again."

After that, she never put a babushka on her head, or pretended she was Anna, or talked to her imaginary playmates Anjuska and Sonja again.

Lapis
04-03-2006, 11:19 PM
Empath,

Oh I cried reading you and your daughters experiences. The babushka, the guilt, the love, aaaahhhh! :cry: Thanks so much for sharing that. It sounded like once she'd relived this trauma and guilt with you at that age, she'd resolved the whole issue. What a thing to witness and go through with your very young child.

I remember one afternoon when my son was around 4 or 5, he'd been watching TV while I was housecleaning. Suddenly I heard him scream and start crying like he'd gotten hurt. I went tearing in, with my heart pounding, into see what had happened.

He was clucthing his stomach and rocking back and forth, crying wildly. On the TV was a commercial for some Pizza company with an extreme close-up shot of a large knife cutting, slicing, some red tomatoes. I frantically looked over my little boy for bleeding or wounds of any sort. Nothing.

I asked him what was the matter and he said, crying and pointing at the TV, the red tomatoes and large knife, that the knife burned his tummy bad! I lifted up his shirt to see his bare skin but all was fine. I tried again. He said that he knew exactly what it felt like to have a big knife cut across his belly just like it did with the tomatoes on TV! He said it made him very sick and he couldn't move at all......

I didn't need or want this to go any further so we cuddled and kissed and made things better in that time. After about 10 minutes it all seemed to pass and he was fine again. But I've wondered......when, where, what war or fight etc. In this life my son has Mars in Cancer in his 12th and I've also wondered about that in connection with his past life death.

Empath
04-04-2006, 02:11 AM
Lapis,

I do think that we are born with our bags packed! Some of us have our stuff much closer to the surface.

My daughter came in with a 12th house Capricorn stellium of outer planets, Cap rising, and was the baby that unnerved people because they felt like she could see right through them. She obviously had a heavy load from her time as Anna and needed to be forgiven for not rescuing her sister, resolving that experience so that she could be unburdened and embrace this experience. It just broke my heart to see her grief -- 3 year olds are not supposed to have Shakespearian-intense emotions. I am grateful that I had the presence of mind to accept her story and be there for her. It is the story that the sharpest skeptic has yet to debunk!

Years later, when she was 10, an old (1950s) green Chevy passed us as we drove home. Mia when into a semi-trance, back to the Anna time. She started a drifty recall of fragments: she lived in New York, in the mountains near a lake; Sonja was her aunt with blond hair, green eyes and wore a kerchief,; she had a brother named Saul who died when he was two; she lived with her mother and stepfather; her mother sung songs in Russian. Sometimes "Anna" would hear her mother weeping at night. So... I wonder -- this accident sounded like it happened in the 50s, maybe in the Catskills or Adirondaks. What happened to Anna? Maybe she died -- young -- and came right back as my daughter, with her tragedy unresolved?

Your poor baby must have suffered at the edge of a sword. That commercial brought it all back to him -- in his body, because our DNA holds all of our collective, familial, and past life memories. He felt his memory viscerally, and you did the right thing in comforting him.

Motherhood is often challenging enough, with the things we DO know about our kids -- but they come to us as complete packages, with souls and histories and legacies that we can't always fathom...

tempura99
04-23-2006, 02:32 AM
The last several years I have been having a lot of real time, wide awake, experiences of past life...even to the point of being able to physcially turn my head and see the temple I was at and one of my friends who was also a monk. These real time, wide experiences, have been happening the last ten years but are becoming more profound. My current Lady friend and myself recognize we had a failed relationship before but this life time is to heal and evolve. We both got readings saying this would be our last life time and we both have had periods where we felt our souls ready to depart. It is not time yet though. What is interesting is that there is a very strong psychic bond with those from the past....one was so strong we didn't have to talk yet we heard each other's words very clearly.

CalicoDreams
06-15-2006, 08:55 AM
Here is my story...

Lately, I have been fascinated, touched and moved by the story of the Alamo. For those who might be from other countries and unfamiliar with it, it's a church located in San Antonio, Texas. It used to be a large compound, a Spanish mission. Later on, it became a fort for soldiers. The story is, anglos (the American/European) soldiers moved to Texas and Mexicans feared they might be taking over, and indeed we were slowly trying to. We felt that their leader, Santa Anna (also a general) was issuing unfair laws and was tyrannical in his ways. We wanted our independence, and to have the province of Texas become a Republic. 180 soldiers commanded by Lt. Col. William Travis stayed inside the Alamo, along with a few women and children. For thirteen days, Santa Anna's troops bombarded them with cannonfire until March 6th, at 5:00 AM they finally attacked and killed everyone one of them -- except for Susanna Dickinson, her daughter Angelina and William Travis' slave, Joe.

My fascination began when I went down to Austin to see some family, and my mother and I decided "Oh, we might as well go see the Alamo..." since it was only an hour away. My cousin had a book, apparently that was definitely aged and said that it was a published book by Davy Crockett ABOUT Davy Crockett. I was instantly interested. I've always loved history. The next day, I finally go to see the Alamo ...and something clicked. I went back to their place, still thinking about it and I watched their copy of the Alamo. I was hooked. It wouldn't leave my mind... and I had a certain interest in one person, too. William B. Travis. I don't know what it is about him, but I just find him so... I don't know. He was only 26 when he died... he was very young, probably uncomfortable in his situation... I almost feel attracted to him, it's strange. I feel so connected to this event, and the people and what they were feeling.

I'm wondering, and my mother's friend has already hinted at this, if I might've had a past life at the Alamo. Could all this fascination be an indicator of that...?

Arian Maverick
06-15-2006, 12:16 PM
I'm wondering, and my mother's friend has already hinted at this, if I might've had a past life at the Alamo. Could all this fascination be an indicator of that...?

Certainly! I believe it is a Law of the Universe for a soul to be attracted to those places, events, and people it has experienced before...

I would like to share a strange experience I had a few nights ago, in which I was lying in bed thinking about possible past-life origins of current behaviors and habits. Although I would certainly not identify this as regression, a vague situation soon unfolded itself in my mind, not through images or even words:

I was a man sustaining an injury to one of my arms, no longer able to provide for my family...

A deep sense of shame permeated my soul...

I was worthless, despicable...

I became obsessed with a knife collection I had begun, either before my injury or as a direct result from it...

Arian Maverick

CalicoDreams
06-15-2006, 05:55 PM
That is interesting... though I cannot put a time or place on it. Maybe you should look farther into this, if you decide to. You might uncover some more on what this past life (or possible past life) was.

Could it be, though, that these images we see of past people who might've been ourselves are just images? The mind is an odd thing, and you can definitely see that when you're falling asleep ...and you're not really thinking of anything coherant, just random things. I've always taken an interest in past lives, because I've been called an 'old soul' maaany times. Just wondering.

Manic_Monday
06-15-2006, 08:02 PM
I've had an awkward experience. I was going through the National Geographic magazine. I usually don't read it, but I was at the dentist, waiting room... I saw a picture and I became scared, though there was no reason. The picture was taken at Estate Biltmore, Ashville, North Carolina. It wasn't a special picture, it showed just the landscape.

Lapis
06-16-2006, 08:18 PM
Manic Monday,

What you experienced is very often exactly how we start to remember some past life that still holds a lot of intense emotions. Places, colors, smells, certain foreign places and/or people and cultures, rituals, the ocean, fire, war, blades etc. etc. will set us off or effect us instantly and deeply with no conscious knowledge of why. But there are usually direct past life reasons for each one of these intense emotional feelings!

You might do some research for what went on in that physical location to see what comes up. Point is, that whenever we get a hit in the gut like you mentioned, there's usually a past life emotional energetic connection with that place and time, and it needs to be dealt with now. Consciously healed and integrated so that old 'wound' is no longer an issue on any level in this life, body and time.

Manic_Monday
06-17-2006, 09:24 AM
Thanks! I'll do a Google search on it.

Suvasri
06-17-2007, 09:40 AM
Arian Maverick !!
I congratulate you for creating this place dedicated solely to discussions about past life.
God bless you.

Shaun
06-17-2007, 03:10 PM
My experiences with past life experiences are like what Like Lapis stated - namely, an awakening that occurs within self to certain places, scents, colors, people, subjects and activities in which I have a deep interest. All have brought about profound and uplifting experiences. For me, in particulary, they always are quite unusual - even the way in which the earth looks - and give rise to a more advanced, vivid, spiritual and expanded world. Oftentimes, these experiences come through my dreams, which is why I try to keep a pen, paper and tape recorder nearby. Something new and exciting is always revealved that adds profound insights to that which presently exists (including musical tones and compositions).

When I was younger, I would always have these visions and a feeling that I've been to certain places before - even though in my recollection, I knew (at least physically in this present experience) I've never been there. I used to get confused and not know whether I was dreaming or such experiences actually took place because they seemed so real and I just "knew" things about them, or people. After reading about these things I no longer feel that way.

One thing I've noticed with regard to remembrances of past lives is that they do not necessarily come through in consecutive order - i.e., according to the very last one you might have had - but more out of necessity and that which is supportive of your purposes and ideals for entering the earth (in addition to those activities in which you insert yourself herein). I have no doubts that those coming through to me now are in relation to Atlantis.

As to the astrological indicators of past lives, they involve the Moon and 9th house - the Moon, because it is the storage place and recollection of all data in the conscious and subconscious mind (including the emotions or feelings associated with same); the 9th house, because all matters here derive from past-tense sources. Like the 3rd house, this cadent house is where the unfolding of experiences, lessons, events, deja vu, the reopening of life's issues (or karma), meeting of like minds and familiarization with places and things occur but from an interpersonal or social point of view. Uranus, Venus and Jupiter-related influences are the primary positive factors that bring about past-tense memories in my life. Mars and Saturn bring the exact opposite.

What astrological factors (or correlative activities) does anyone else think play a role in his or her "remembrances"?

Very interesting discussion, by the way.

Shaun

Soul Friend
06-18-2007, 05:14 PM
Hi AquaMav,

if only I could read something that would jump-start a past life memory...any suggestions?


Draco :wink:

Hey Draco,

I just ran across this comment and late as it is since it was 1st made thought I'd share something that unexpectedly gave me the result you're looking for. The author Michael Newton researches through PLR the time of "Life Between Lives" in his book Journey of Souls. Concepts discussed would lead my mind to wander as I contemplated feeling a vague understanding of things particularly where the descriptions resonated with things important to my personal views of life. One example is a discussion I believe on "soul groups" where the word "friend" was used. My history of strong feelings toward this word goes way back in this life to a point before the bulk of my conscious memories in childhood. I was maybe 3 or so and had shifted gears with my godmother into a discussion of friends who are special and then I told her spontaneously of a time we knew one another before. We were surrounded by Indians and we were near a big river.

While reading Newton's book and going through that passage, she came to mind along with the image of a wide river. I believed it to be the Mississippi and a word I had never heard before was struggling to come through my mind. I knew it was related to the "Choctaw" but subtly different. I was sensing an extra vowel syllable in the middle. My mom had at one time given my family a map of Indian tribes of North America since we had been homeschooling at the time. I decided to do an experiment with the map face down. I asked myself to find the Indian tribe targeted from the blank white back of the map so I wouldn't be influenced by seeing it. The map had been rolled and we never used it. (It had been more in the way as clutter than anything.) Upon flipping the map after choosing a spot no one would be surprised that I pinpointed an area near the Miss. River since it's part of major U.S. geography where I live. What was remarkable was that I actually found myself pointing to the "Chickasaw" Tribe which was related to the Choctaw and each had strong feelings toward a mythology of Brotherhood at the root of their tribes. That concept of brotherhood also deeply strikes me. This was a fine choice for a first read of the author and he does have several others.

Let me know if you or anyone else is interested in this author. I'd love to hear of anyone else having experiences of this sort or discuss these sometime if anyone is interested. ;)

Type To You Later!!! :D Ciao!

~Soul Friend
~~~Rick

cclawson
12-23-2007, 08:08 PM
Hmm, I know this is a way late post - sorry just got here.:)

After reading a post by Draco near the beginning of this thread:

"One thing I will mention is that I was very particular about the spelling of the word, I knew it was 'Boone', with the 'e' at the end, and not 'Boon', which would be the simplest way to spell the way the word sounded. I also knew it had to be a capital 'B', so I knew that this word must have stood either for the name of a person or the name of a place. Once written, I just looked at the word wondering why the hell I'd wrote down a word I hadn't heard before and with no apparent meaning. As soon as I looked at the word, another word came, and this was 'Indiana'. Of course, I had heard of Indiana, and other than the fictional 'Indiana Jones', I was aware that this is a state of America. "

Anyway, I thought of Daniel Boone - certainly this was his lifetime, and he could be considered an "Indiana Jones" type character for his time....what do you think?

P.S. - He also had numerous skirmishes with, and was captured at one time by the Indians.....
I kind of got into reading about ol' Daniel after Draco's post jumped out at me - he wrote a book about his adventures. Interestingly, he refers to the "will of the heavens" in the opening paragraph. Certainly, he would have done a lot of star gazing as he often slept outdoors. I wonder if he was referring to astrology? Here it is:
"Curiosity is natural to the soul of man and interesting objects have a powerful influence on our affections. Let these influencing powers actuate, by the permission or disposal of Providence, from selfish or social views, yet in time the mysterious will of Heaven is unfolded, and we behold our conduct , from whatever motives excited, operating to answer the important designs of heaven." - Daniel Boone