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KayBug
02-13-2008, 11:33 PM
Hi Everyone :)
I'm not sure I have cast this horary chart right it has been so very long!
I would like to know if I can quit smoking on my own.
I had my hopes up so high that I was going to get a hypnosis appointment but after calling and getting the information it is way out of my budget. Impossible for me. My Mother died of Lung cancer in 1985 from smoking. Her oncologist told me that because I was my Mother's daughter my chances of geting it was just as good as hers. Meaning 100%. I already have some breathing problems from smoking and I have thought about quitting for a long time. I have tried many, many times with no luck. I hope I have this chart right.
Any help greatly appreciated. ;)

Neptune Rising
02-14-2008, 12:40 AM
Best of luck Kaybug!

I did it last September, had a lapse of a week, got it out of my system and smoked the whole packet, really feeling the horrible taste of them, then gave up again for good. What helped me was I made a ritual out of it, I think I did it on a full or new moon (cant remember, think it ws full), lit a candle, smoked the last one knowing it would be the last one and wasnt disturbed, I put 100% of my concentration into it so as not to feel I was missing out, and I enjoyed it and said goodbye to it. Before that, I never thought Id be able to do it, I loved it too much. Im amazed and so happy I quit, I do miss it sometimes but tried one and coughed so much, I just couldnt smoke again. Its gone for good.

I tried patches for a week, got a migraine and gave them up with no problems. I think the ritual, determination and saying goodbye to them love and positivity helped alot.

The chart: Sun in 6th highlights health. Ruler of addictions in 6th, and ruler of 6th/health/Saturn is in the 12th. Health is important.

Mercury goes back for another degree, then goes direct, could mean you hesitation for a wee while longer, maybe thinking things through, then being direct and on purpose to quit!

I think you will, be strong, its so worthwile.

best wishes
Neptune

tsquare
02-14-2008, 01:26 AM
I tried the patches a few years ago and they made me sick, dizzy with an upset stomach...like I was sea sick.
Personally I wouldn't recommend the patch.
I have heard of people having some interesting success with EFT.
It involves tapping on meridian points of the body, while eliminating the cravings at their source in the mind.
It's like reverse hipnosis I believe in some ways....it removes the psychological reasons for the addiction.
The E book is free and it is something you can do yourself on your own time...they do sell stuff for people that use this system professionally(chiropractors, therapists, ETC.) but much of what you need is right there in the free ebook....
I use this daily for various things, and even just to relax the body before bed.
I only have the free Ebook and have purchased nothing, but I do find the Email list interesting and I believe everything you need is in the book.

Google EFT(Emotional Freedom techniques), or add Gary Craig, and you should find the free Ebook easily....it's a very very easy read......and supprising in it's effectiveness for a broad range of symptoms...from simple fears, to addictions.
I have been nothing but suprised by how many people this has worked for, so it's worth checking out.
I sugest it to anyone trying to quit.

Good luck Kaybug!:)

Tsquare

sageofaquarius
02-14-2008, 06:00 PM
Giving up smoking is easy, KayBug, I've done it loads of times! :D

Like NR, I found establishing a ritual the best method. I'm a firm believer in the Monday morning routine. Last thing Sunday night smoke all your cigs, get rid of papers, matches, etc., clean the ashtrays, put everything away that is going to remind you of smoking, then on Monday morning make a clean start as a non-smoker.

Get some mint-flavoured nicotine lozenges - they're called NiQuitiN in the UK - and whenever you get the "I've got to have a fag or I'll go crazy" feeling (about every three hours on the first day), suck a lozenge and the craving will disappear instantly. After three days you'll find you only need a couple of lozenges a day; by the end of the first week, only one at occasional moments of stress like at a party or meeting someone unexpectedly who offers you one.

Don't smoke anything for a week. I found that just smoking wacky on its own is enough to tickle the back of the throat and make you want more, so don't let yourself be tempted.

I haven't bought cigarettes for three years now - they are so expensive - but I will admit to having the odd smoke at parties.

You can only try, and keep trying, and don't give yourself a hard time if you give in and have a puff. Try again.

Don't worry about putting on weight. Treat yourself to healthy foods like fresh fruit with the money you save and you'll look and feel a whole lot better.

Beat it one lozenge at a time.

Good luck.

sage

autumnleaf
02-25-2008, 10:08 PM
Kaybug,
I've been doing the back and forth debate on how and when to quit smoking for a few months now. I quit a few times several years ago, but I wasn't ready. Now I have health concerns, too and just want to be done with the stupid things. I went to the EFT site and a copy of the Ebook is on its way to me now. Just so you know, you're not alone in this battle.