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02-12-2008, 04:07 AM
Currently as we are on earth, we take energies from the likes of planets in our neighbouring planets. So what if we are living on mars or any other planets in the future as man continues to expand its territory? Will earth be now counted into the planets instead of mars? If so how would earth energies affect newborns on other planets?
Kaiousei no Senshi
02-12-2008, 04:32 AM
There was a similar thread about this, but with the Moon instead of Mars. It's still applicable, though.
02-13-2008, 01:51 PM
So what if we are living on mars or any other planets in the future as man continues to expand its territory? Will earth be now counted into the planets instead of mars? If so how would earth energies affect newborns on other planets?
It's the astrological question of the century, Sivitri. If we don't put our minds to this one, the first person born on the Moon or Mars can have no valid chart and those who say astrology is rubbish will have a field day. This event could easily happen this century, particularly if global warming continues to accelerate.
There are two aspects which need to be addressed: the mathematical and the interpretative. The mathematical involves calculating the position of the planets from the perspective of the Moon or Mars; the interpretative might require many years of observation to determine the effect of Earth in Virgo, say, although from the Moon the Earth would pass through each sign of the zodiac every 29.5 days. NASA is the authority for determining the time on the Moon or Mars, and computer programs for determining the exact position of the Sun and the solar planets in relation to these two bodies no doubt already exists.
Assuming the first 'space' child is born on the Moon, a new ruler for Cancer would need to apply in its chart. The Earth itself, as the home planet, might be a strong contender; Ceres, the Great Mother Goddess, is another possibility.
If a subsequent child is born on Mars, a new ruler for Aries and co-ruler of Scorpio will need to be determined. The Earth's moon will have no more significance in this chart than Mars' moons do in ours. Phobus and Deimos will, however, figure prominently in the Martian chart as will Earth, its nearest planetary neighbour.
It has been suggested that Jupiter's moon Europa might be habitable, but I do not think the gas giants themselves provide a likely base for colonisation. Birth on board a spaceship will provide a further challenge to astrological assumptions but I do not expect this event until we explore beyond the solar system.
It has been suggested that our view of the heavens will be very different from the Moon or Mars and our current astrology will not, therefore, apply. Venus from Mars, for example, would not be the bright morning and evening 'star' that we are used to seeing from Earth. This is true, but I expect we will take our astrology with us when we chart for Martian births. Venus in Pisces will still be interpreted as Venus in Pisces, although she will not always be in Pisces as viewed from Mars at the same time as she is in Pisces when viewed from Earth.
Calculating charts viewed from Mars will be similar to calculating them from Earth. With the Moon an additional problem arises because it orbits the Earth which orbits the Sun.
These are some of the considerations to be taken into account if astrology is to transcend its Earth-based origin. If we start thinking about them now we may be ready for the first off-planet birth when it occurs.
02-13-2008, 02:16 PM
I think this is a fascinating topic.
On Mars, much might depend on te two local moons, but Earth as the 'home planet' to humans would be bound to have huge significance for any future second-generation Martians. The two moons of Mars might not be about phobias or fears at all, but take on the role of our Luna instead. The asteroids between Mars and Jupiter would be closer and therefore possibly more significant to any nascient astrology on Mars than they are here.
As for being born on the Moon - well then, Earth would have to assume momentous significance, as not only does the Moon orbit Earth, but any human living there would depend far more on it for sustenance and resources for survival in a far more literal sense, as it is not clear yet how life-sustaining any form of dome life might prove to be on the Moon. They say that there may be ice deposits there, water deposits, but that is not yet clear.
Fascinating to speculate.....at the same time, it maybe is to be hoped that the fact that the life-sustaining factors that make this home planet so unique within this solar system might be respected enough for humans not to be too inclined to trash the eco-enviroment badly enough for humans to need to find new planets to trash in turn.
02-13-2008, 02:57 PM
It is to be hoped that the fact that the life-sustaining factors that make this home planet so unique within this solar system might be respected enough for humans not to be too inclined to trash the eco-enviroment badly enough for humans to need to find new planets to trash in turn.
I so agree, Nexus7.
02-13-2008, 03:19 PM
the first person born on the Moon or Mars can have no valid chart and those who say astrology is rubbish will have a field day.
I think the skeptics are not the problem, they can never prove astrology is wrong. There are softwares that calculate not only geocentric, or heliocentric. Astrolog5.4 or Astrolog32 and maybe other softwares have the settings for different kind of centre of planet calculation. You can just put Mars or other planets, and then it gets interesting ( but still you need ephemeris for the satellites for that planet and some precise mathematical changes for the software ). Of couse it will require some long time of study, but eventualy astrologers would manage to find astrology for non-geocentric and non-heliocentric. Still you can use heliocentric in other planets as well.
But what if you were born on space ? No planet no nothing, how do you do that ? My opinion was, that the chart for in-space birth, would be like this:
Take the dates for day/month/year. And when he lands somewhere on a planet, then he will be according to the location/time of the ascedent of that planet. Add the location and time for completing the day/month/year, and you get a chart for space birth. :D
Yes I know, I'm overly too much optimistic and i'm pure speculating, but its fun at least. :D
In conclusion, the future astrological studies concerning living in other planets would be a titans work. So we would need someone really genius and dedicated to help us. ( if not a alien astrologer that lives in the neighbourhood of our solar system ).
04-07-2008, 08:27 PM
People born on different planets in different star systems would have their own astrology - their planets, their stars, their interpretions. People, should they be born on Mars, would also have the same issue. A whole new system of interpretation would have be designed, based on a Martian-centric system with Earth traveling through the signs, our Moon removed, and the Martian moons added. The asteroids such as Ceres and Vesta would also take on new importance because they will be much closer. What about rising signs? Someone born on a planet that revolves on its axis very quickly - will rising signs matter so much when a particular sign only rises for 20 mins. or less? What about planets that essentially spin sideways (like Uranus)? How about star systems with binary stars? How about planets with 10 or more moons? I think astrology has a long future indeed.
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