please guess my ascendant - desperate!!!

[Moulin]

OK so l need your help please. I want to see if my ascendant is obvious to guess from my face. Basically l don't know my birth time and an astrologer says i'm Pisces, a psychic says i'm scorpio and my dad says i'm sagittarius
LOL

see my problem?

I am
sun/taurus
moon/aries
mercury/taurus
venus/aries
mars/taurus
neptune/scorpio

All my boyfriends have pretty much been fire signs and have water/air prominent in their charts. All my friends are mostly either scorpio, sagittarius, leo, aries or pisces.

I am very attracted to foreign men for some reason!

Does that help?
Please please help me finally find out who l am on my ascendant :)

Please help as it's driving me insane :(

[Liquid Green]

you got one while your smiling?

[Moulin]

Smiling? What's that then? LOL


yeah LG, here ya go ;)

you got one while your smiling?

[lillyjgc]

Moulin:
Nobody can *guess* your ascendant...Sorry-it just doesnt work like that.If you want to find out your ascendant you will have to get your chart properly rectified-by an experienced astrologer who is trained in rectification.It really takes years to be able to do rectification accurately, and many astrologers baulk at it because it takes so long to do.
Just so you know, it involves taking a large number of events in your life for which you have dates and times, and working from that, looking at transits to your chart....It isnt very reliable.
there is an explanation of a rectification process on aaron Brody's site, but I tried the method with a few charts where the birthtime was definitely accurate, just to test it and it didnt work.(well-not for me anyway)
Give it a try though:
http://www.antiquus-astrology.com/Chap5-1.html
I do think *guessing the ascendant* from a picture is pretty much invalid.Any chart drawn up with a *guessed* ascendant would have very limited application to an astrologer.....
Try to find out your birth time so you have an accurate map.
Cheers Lillyjgc

[Moulin]

Thanks Lilly :)

Well i guess that has knocked this thread into the bin lol

[lillyjgc]

Sorry Moulin...didnt mean to *party poop* your thread....By all means continue with the *guess the asc* conversation-(but don't put too much faith in the *poll*!.
Maybe you could have a go at the rectification-its a good exercise...
Cheers Lillyjgc

[Moulin]

It's ok Lilly.

I would love to have a go at rectification although it seems that l have planets at important points/angles with a few ascendants.

Any suggestions on what would be an important aspect to zone in on just one or two? :)

Sorry Moulin...didnt mean to *party poop* your thread....By all means continue with the *guess the asc* conversation-(but don't put too much faith in the *poll*!.
Maybe you could have a go at the rectification-its a good exercise...
Cheers Lillyjgc

[lillyjgc]

Do you have any idea about whether you were born day or night, early or late? That can cut down the list of possibilities...
Start by listing the dates of *significant events*...starting school....leaving school, first job, kids birthdays, marriages, accidents or illnesses...try to get a list that includes matters dealing with all twelve houses.Hospitalisations etc....Its an arduous process of setting up a lot of charts and working out how the angles co-relate...eg...aspects to h10 when you begin your career...or to h7 when you get married, aspects to h9 if you travel...By fiddling you can often get close enough and then use Dymock Broses Harmonic Method to fine tune it.
Hard, but *worth it*.
Cheers Lillyjgc
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~dymock/

[Moulin]

yes l know roughly when l was born (from 9pm - 5am) from Scorpio - Pisces.

I have loads of dates so l will try it, thanks. Do l just use normal placidus chart and natal + transits please?

Thank you so much :) :) :)

[Moulin]

what about T Venus opposing sun/moon/mercury/venus and T moon conjunct ASC exact on my wedding day. Is that the kind of aspects you mean?

Plus on my 2nd marriage T venus was in my 7th house and T Saturn was conjunct my sun/moon/mercury with T sun/moon conjunct my venus *gulp*

(that is with Scorpio rising which is what l think my asc is) ;)

Don't mean to be stupid, just want to be sure i'm doing it right :)

[Moulin]

OMG and the day l told my husband of 6 yrs that l was leaving him, these aspects were within 2 degrees

T n node conjunct N moon :eek:
T moon conjunct N Pluto (ruler of asc)
T chiron trine 0.00deg N Uranus !!!!!
T venus trine N venus
T saturn square N moon/venus

My gosh that's amazing, no? :D

[Neptune Rising]

Moulin,

I would guess you have a Piscean Ascendant, purely by instinct. You have a kind of soft, Neptunian look. I also sense a presence of Mars there.
NR

[Moulin]

Hi Coffee
sorry, you've confused me :)

Sag.
Got your details and some key dates. Leaving partner will be good.

[Moulin]

:D Sorry Coffee, forgive me if i'm slow, i'm really sick in bed :(

Don't get this bit "Got your details and some key dates. Leaving partner will be good"

OK. Like a 6 year old then :D

What does this thread title say?

[Moulin]

yeah l have that NORO virus and it's attacking my whole body :(

ok so basically you are giving thumbs up to these aspects even though they were for scorpio rising and you think sagittarius rising? :p :p

[Moulin]

Sure, i'm happy to do anything to find out :)
Thanks. It's massively appreciated.

OK
Marriages
10 sept 1994
16 april 1999

seperation from 2nd husband (father of 2 kids) 3 jan 2005

Kids
4 dec 1999
20 july 2001
23 dec 2005 (born by c-section)

1st major job
0ctober 1987 - nov 1991
traveling job

Another site gave me Pisces asc @4.25am but i'm just not convinced i'm pisces!!

Hows that? :)

[Moulin]

ok times for 26th april 1968 London UK

for pisces asc l have 04.25
for sag asc l have 00.15
for scorpio asc l have 20.55

possibly aquarius too.

One thing - l married foreign men. I seem to be drawn to them :rolleyes:

[Moulin]

LOL

Isn't a biatch a female dog :60:

Thanks coffee. BTW do you take it with sugar and milk or with the spoon standing straight up? lol

Fantastic stuff Moulin.

do I check them dates of your kids births and marriages against my natal, or the natal of George Bush?

[Moulin]

1st marriage was no kids and barely lasted a year.
2nd marriage was 2 kids and lasted 6 years and was UGLY :(

Thanks Coffee, really really appreciate it. Don't feel like Cappy at all though... where is my lightness and ability to laugh at life and shrug off the downs if i'm a serious saturnian cappy? hehe :D:D

Strong and sweet.
1st marriage does look like Sag, with Jupiter opposite Mercury and Mecury Q Mercury, the second one does comply with the sag, but not in a strong way.

Second marriage looks more like Capricorn.
Saturn/Moon in aspect. 1st marriage has full moon square Saturn, so might have been advisable to have an astrologer tell you that it would nt have worked out at all.

Seperation from 2nd husband has not the best aspect between Moon and Saturn to Saturn and Moon. Jupiter and Mercury involved too, but less so.

Looks like Cappy. Will check on the kids.

[Moulin]

weird thing is i'm naturally a strawberry blonde but l dyed my hair so much it's not gone darker lol :o

I have a lot of red tinges in my hair

[Moulin]

Here is me before l dyed my hair..

[Moulin]

if i'm cappy asc l think i'd be 1st decan. What do you think? :)

[Moulin]

:D Yes i'm the same height as Kate Moss and she is a Cappy asc :D

You saying i'm a cuspy custard Coffee? :p

Not easy is it? I have been trying to figure this out for months !

So either Sag or Cappy. Def not Pisces then... some people also think Aquarius :rolleyes:

I have a short body and long legs - is that a Cappy goat trait?

I'm so grateful to you Coffee, thank you :cheers:

[Moulin]

Could easily be that actually cos l do express myself very well through the written word and am profound. People tel me l am wise and able to see the bigger picture so you could very well be right cos Mercury is also in 3rd then too!! :D

In fact that puts my entire stellium in 3rd too :eek: 0 to 10 Cap. Must have Saturn in the 3rd.

[Moulin]

puts my 7th ruler as moon though and never been out with a cancerian in my life lol

Although... my moon in Aries... hmmm both my ex husbands and my father are aries and they all had immense emotional control over me.

[Moulin]

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D Thank you COFFEE !!!!!!

You are a star. I'm so so so grateful. I am going to read up on it tonight through the astro interactive thingy ;)

I'm really grateful. It does seem to kind of fit and the aspects gelled didn't they?

Wish you a wonderful Chinese New Year of the Rat, from a cheeky monkey :D

Et Voila! There you go, that didnt hurt!

[universal]

Moulin,
Best of luck in finding your Ascendant. I was fortunate enough to find my birthtime on some document - 5:53 p.m.- just in time for supper and I haven't missed one since.

I think I figured out my brother's Ascendant. You might try my method if you have loads of time, patience and love to read about astrology. I started out by drawing a solar chart. (You would draw a chart with the possible Ascendants you've narrowed it down to and fill in your planets for each possibility.) I then read the description of what the planets occupying the houses meant. If it didn't fit what I know to be true about my brother, I moved on to the next Ascendant. In his case, he's got twins (typical of a Gemini 5th house cusp), vacations only with friends and neighbours (some planet in the 9th meant that), anyway I tried a few charts and when I tried Aquarius rising and read all the planet placement descriptions, BINGO,they were pretty well right on and I had his Ascendant! (I used Sakoian & Acker's The Astrologer's Handbook, among other references.)

All the best,
Universal

[Arian Maverick]

This method isn't very good if you don't know the sign of your Ascendant, but if you think you have a Capricorn Ascendant from your important transits, I wonder if you could use the Animodar Method of Rectification to narrow down the degree.

A lot of astrologers don't like this rectification method, and I wouldn't suggest using it without other things such as transits, but I actually received good results with it on my natal chart and have rectified my Ascendant to this degree.

If my memory serves me correctly, you find the , or the lunation prior to your birth--either the New Moon or the Full Moon, depending upon where you were born in the Moon's cycle.

Once you have erected the chart for the exact moment of the syzgery, then you check to see which planet has the most essential dignity at the degree of the lunation. If it's a New Moon, the Sun and the Moon are conjunct at the same degree and this is the degree you use, but if it's a Full Moon, you use the degree of the luminary (Sun or Moon) that was above the Earth (i.e. above or below the Ascendant/Descendant axis). If the Sun was above the Ascendant/Descendant axis, you use the degree of the Sun; if the Moon was above the Ascendant/Descendant axis, you use the degree of the Moon.

So using Ptomely's Table of Essential Dignities, you see which planet has the most essential dignity at this degree. I believe there's a point system involved, but unfortunately, I can't remember how many points a planet gets if it is the ruler of the sign or exalted in the sign or if it is the ruler of the face, term, and triplicity.

Once you find this planet, you determine whether it is closer to the Ascendant or the Midheaven. If the planet is closer to the Ascendant, you modify your natal Ascendant so that it is the same degree as the planet; if the planet is closer to the Ascendant, you modify your natal Midheaven so that it is the same degree as the planet, and this, of course, will change the degree of your Ascendant.

I hope this helps :)

EDIT: What is the new time range coffee et all have determined? Do we have a specific Ascendant degree?

Arian Maverick

[ceres76]

Arian, could you tell us where to find out about this:

could use the Animodar Method of Rectification to narrow down the degree.

Animodar is the name of the author? Sorry, I've never heard of this, but I have always wanted to rectify the degree of my own ascendant. I would appreciate it if you could indicate the name of the book or any kind of reference. Thanks.

Moulin - fascinating thread. Lots of luck with this!

Take care.

ceres

[Arian Maverick]

Animodar is the name of the author? Sorry, I've never heard of this, but I have always wanted to rectify the degree of my own ascendant. I would appreciate it if you could indicate the name of the book or any kind of reference. Thanks.

No, Animodar isn't the name of the author--at least that I'm aware of.

All of this information is explained in a short article on Skyscript (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/): Animodar method of Rectification (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/animodar.html).

I can't guarantee that it's 100% accurate and it can only be used if you know the sign on the Ascendant, but as I mentioned before, I consider it to be a good refining tool used in conjunction with other methods.

EDIT: Alright, I think I've got Moulin's syzergy chart: April 13, 1968 at 5:51:39 AM in London, England.

Since this is a Full Moon chart, we look for the luminary above the Earth, which is the Moon at 23 Libra 20.

According to Ptolemy's Table of Essential Dignities (http://www.skyscript.co.uk/essential_dignities.html), Venus is the sign ruler, Saturn is exalted in Libra at 21 degrees (near the degree of the Full Moon), Mercury is the triplicity ruler (this is a night chart since the Sun is in the first house and not conjunct the Ascendant), Mercury is the term ruler, and Venus is the face ruler.

Mercury appears twice, but although I am not familiar with the exact number of points a planet would receive for each, I believe that the number of points Venus would receive as sign ruler and face ruler would outscore the number of points Mercury would receive for being triplicity ruler and term ruler. If someone is familiar with this point system and I am wrong, please correct me.

Venus is located at 5 Aries 17'11" in this syzergy chart, and it is definitely closer to the Ascendant than the Midheaven. Therefore, we would rectify Moulin's Ascendant to 5 Capricorn 17'11" using this rectification method.

The rectified time of birth would be about 1:18:50 AM, but again, other methods should be used to verify this result and change it if necessary.

By the way, how does these Sabian symbol resonate with you, Moulin?

Ascendant:

Capricorn 6:
Ten logs lie under an archway leading to darker woods.

Descendant:

Cancer 6: In spring game birds are feathering their nests.

Midheaven:

Scorpio 12:
A brilliant assembly of dignitaries at an official embassy ball.

Nadir:

Taurus 12: A young couple walk down main street window shopping.

Also, do you feel that the descriptions Keys to Your External Self: CAPRICORN Rising and Decans (http://www.elbertwade.com/page107.html), especially that for the first decanate, fit you?

Note: As I mentioned earlier, this method does not tell which sign is on the Ascendant, only which degree is on the Ascendant. However, since there seems to be a consensus that Moulin has a Capricorn Ascendant according to transits and such, I too will use a Capricorn Ascendant.

Arian Maverick

[Moulin]

Hi everyone

Thanks for your wonderful and caringly helpful posts :)
Sorry l haven't replied before - my son is ill so was with him.

Starting with Arian's last post - l don't really relate to any of them :o

I looked at astro portrait quickly and these two meaning absolutely jumped out at me - l mean it's SO ME it's gobsmacking:

Uranus in the Eighth House 8th hs
Changes in your life tend to take place suddenly. On the other hand, you may resist change altogether until the pressures are so great that they have to come suddenly and with great force.

You are also interested in the hidden aspects of life, wanting to know the answer to all mysteries and riddles and seeking any understanding you can get from them. When you do this, you have a unique ability to think about new ideas with an open mind and, even more important, to apply them to your everyday life.

When anyone tries to press their ideas and values upon you, you resist strongly. You have to be free to set your own values, and those values must allow you to be free. Often this comes out as a lack of concern with material possessions.

Pluto in the Eighth House 8th hs
(especially this first bit on this one)
Your life goes through periods of very intense and deep change. You are always aware of something inside you pushing you to grow and become different from what you were. You are not afraid of these changes, because they seem quite logical, a natural process within you.

You may express your interests as a great love of investigating, immediately looking for the answers to any question that intrigues you. However, you don't mind spending a great deal of time and energy to find the answers. But this is more than casual curiosity, it is a deep psychological drive within you.

You want to use all the resources, objects, money or other possessions that come your way for whatever purpose is dominating your life at the moment


Not sure what degree although 8 is in my head... l did run a synastry with my man with me at 7deg Capricorn and l have to say it does show the intensity and love at first sight that we experienced... here are a few aspects:

my vertex conj his sun 0deg
my vertex trine his moon 0deg
his vertex conjunct my descendant 0deg

his sun/mars in my 7th
his venus/pluto in my 8th phorrrrr!
his juno conj my IC
jupiter in each others 9th house (interestingly my jupiter is in Leo. He is a Leo and a foreigner and his jupiter is in Libra and l am a Venus sun!!! not sure if that means anything... lol)

I will try that moon thing you recommended Arian, thanks.

Thank you Ceres and Universal :)

Coffee - you cheeky monkey ;)

Sorry Arian that those Sabians don't mean anything.. l will take a look and see if any jump out at me... great idea! :D

[Liquid Green]

personally i would have said gemini asc as a guess, but thats only cos i fight with you heaps......perhaps you are a cap rising.....makes me understand why we talk, and get along with each other at times......but another reason perhaps that we lock horns..............

so are you going to sit decided...........? (this time:P?):D

[Moulin]

well don't forget i'm a taurus sun!!!! So we are earth sista's ;)

PLUS my aries stellium probably is the bit of me that fights with your capricorn fixedness :D:D:D hahaha

Gemini would make me a superficial talker who has a phone glued to her ear and i'm def not that!!! I love my space and am not really massively social nor air kissy kissy...

although l do have a quick mind, an amazing memory for detail and sharp wit that cuts to the bone (to my detriment) :(

personally i would have said gemini asc as a guess, but thats only cos i fight with you heaps......perhaps you are a cap rising.....makes me understand why we talk, and get along with each other at times......but another reason perhaps that we lock horns..............

so are you going to sit decided...........? (this time:P?):D

[lillyjgc]

*personally i would have said gemini asc as a guess, but thats only cos i fight with you heaps......perhaps you are a cap rising.....makes me understand why we talk, and get along *
This is a good example of why *guessing* is not a good idea- our *guesses will be influenced by subjective judgements that may in fact be our own *projections*.
Lillyjgc

[Liquid Green]

moulin, thats capricorn cardinality thankyou :D

lilly, whatever love! I said it was a guess and i also believe that the way moulin and i get along is something that could be can be taken into consideration

[Moulin]

Oh yeah, true.. why do l always think that Capricorns are fixed. haha

I guess your sun and my moon are gonna do the 'fantango' then LG :cool:
moulin, thats capricorn cardinality thankyou :D

lilly, whatever love! I said it was a guess and i also believe that the way moulin and i get along is something that could be can be taken into consideration

[Moulin]

True... i'm going to check it out with rectification now :)
*personally i would have said gemini asc as a guess, but thats only cos i fight with you heaps......perhaps you are a cap rising.....makes me understand why we talk, and get along *
This is a good example of why *guessing* is not a good idea- our *guesses will be influenced by subjective judgements that may in fact be our own *projections*.
Lillyjgc

[Moulin]

I'm definitely Capricorn rising -

jupiter in 7th in my book The Twelve Houses says:

"Jupiter in the 7th suffers the classic freedom-closeness dilemma. They want their independence to explore different facets of life, and yet they want their security as well. The partner can reflect jupiter in other respects - he or she may be foreign LOL 100% me :eek:

Mars in 4th is so spot on too :)

Well done Coffee!!! :D

I'm so happy!!!

[Liquid Green]

the only astro book i own says....

"mars in the 4th.
.........a constant undertone of highly strung emotions, irratibility, or the urge to dominate......" lol :p

your brilliant coffee!

[Moulin]

LMAO

On a serious note though it really is amazing. For the first time i'm reading about myself in my chart!!! Incredible :D:D

Neptune in 10th in relation to the mother is way too spooky.

Come on up LG, the view's great ;) :P

[Moulin]

not true.. that is only for the unevolved Mars aspect.

Watch out i'm coming through... mars in 4th is immense need for freedom of expression. the only astro book i own says....

"mars in the 4th.
.........a constant undertone of highly strung emotions, irratibility, or the urge to dominate......" lol :p

your brilliant coffee!

[ceres76]

I don't mean to hijack this thread, especially after Moulin has found her Ascendant already (CONGRATS, Moulin!) but just to follow up on what you said, Arian:

If my memory serves me correctly, you find the , or the lunation prior to your birth--either the New Moon or the Full Moon, depending upon where you were born in the Moon's cycle.

Once you have erected the chart for the exact moment of the syzgery, then you check to see which planet has the most essential dignity at the degree of the lunation. If it's a New Moon, the Sun and the Moon are conjunct at the same degree and this is the degree you use, but if it's a Full Moon, you use the degree of the luminary (Sun or Moon) that was above the Earth (i.e. above or below the Ascendant/Descendant axis). If the Sun was above the Ascendant/Descendant axis, you use the degree of the Sun; if the Moon was above the Ascendant/Descendant axis, you use the degree of the Moon.

So using Ptomely's Table of Essential Dignities, you see which planet has the most essential dignity at this degree. I believe there's a point system involved, but unfortunately, I can't remember how many points a planet gets if it is the ruler of the sign or exalted in the sign or if it is the ruler of the face, term, and triplicity.

Once you find this planet, you determine whether it is closer to the Ascendant or the Midheaven. If the planet is closer to the Ascendant, you modify your natal Ascendant so that it is the same degree as the planet; if the planet is closer to the Ascendant, you modify your natal Midheaven so that it is the same degree as the planet, and this, of course, will change the degree of your Ascendant

This sounds straightforward enough, but I ran into a problem though. When I went to skyscript I found a table of the phases of the moon http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.php where you can plug in your year of birth, and it tells you exactly when the last lunation occurred. In my case, a Full Moon. Venus is the planet most dignified there, but there is one problem -- my Venus is in the next sign, not my Ascendant sign. So....

On the other hand, I was born during the last quarter. The date right preceeding my birth dignifies Mercury, and that IS near my Ascendant which was supposed to be 5 degrees later based on my birth certificate. So I would guess it isn't just Full or New Moon you have to look up, you really have to look up the last lunation of whatever is closest to your birth date. (Maybe this seems obvious to everyone, but I like to be clear about things.) Or am I doing something completely wrong here??

Also, Ptolomy's table of dignities only lists the inner planets. So for someone who only has outer ones in his Ascendant sign, this method can't be used, or is there a way around this?

Thanks.

ceres

[Moulin]

Thank you Ceres - hijack away, it's my pleasure to learn about what you are saying :)

[Arian Maverick]

This sounds straightforward enough, but I ran into a problem though. When I went to skyscript I found a table of the phases of the moon http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.php where you can plug in your year of birth, and it tells you exactly when the last lunation occurred. In my case, a Full Moon. Venus is the planet most dignified there, but there is one problem -- my Venus is in the next sign, not my Ascendant sign. So....

This is nothing to worry about; the planet does not have to be in the same sign as your current Ascendant sign.

For example, Venus in Moulin's syzergy chart was in Aries, not Capricorn, but since Venus was closer to the Ascendant than the Midheaven in this chart, I rectified Moulin's Ascendant to the degree of Venus but in the sign of Capricorn--the sign coffee et all had already established as being Moulin's Ascendant sign.

Remember before when I said that this method only works when you know the sign on the Ascendant? This is why ;)

On the other hand, I was born during the last quarter. The date right preceeding my birth dignifies Mercury, and that IS near my Ascendant which was supposed to be 5 degrees later based on my birth certificate. So I would guess it isn't just Full or New Moon you have to look up, you really have to look up the last lunation of whatever is closest to your birth date. (Maybe this seems obvious to everyone, but I like to be clear about things.) Or am I doing something completely wrong here??

No, according to the article I linked to, you only look at the previous Full Moon or New Moon, depending upon where in the Moon's cycle you were born.

Also, Ptolomy's table of dignities only lists the inner planets. So for someone who only has outer ones in his Ascendant sign, this method can't be used, or is there a way around this?

Are you referring to an individual whose Ascendant is in a sign that has both traditional and modern rulers, such as Aquarius (Saturn and Uranus), Pisces (Jupiter and Pisces), and Scorpio (Mars and Pluto)?

Remember, it's not the ruler of the Ascendant that's important in this rectification method, but rather, the planet that has the most dignity at the degree of the syzergy.

This is a good question, though, especially if the degree of the syzergy is in one of the signs I mentioned above. I've never heard of using modern rulers in this method, but I suppose their position must be significant as well. However, since these planets do not rule the triplicity, term, or face of any sign that I'm aware of, I would just stick with the traditional rulers for now. I do believe that some modern astrologers have assigned them signs of exaltation, though, and exaltation and planetary rulers are two of the strongest dignities a planet can have...

I suppose the only way to see if this works in chart rectification is to test the results using other methods, as I've suggested before.

Arian Maverick

P.S. If you send me a private message with your natal data, I will try this rectification method on your chart if I have time this weekend.

[Moulin]

ok so the new moon was the day after l was born so do l backtrack to the full moon or take the day after and reverse the chart?

What do you think Arian Mav? :)

[Arian Maverick]

ok so the new moon was the day after l was born so do l backtrack to the full moon or take the day after and reverse the chart?

I have the same situation, but I believe it is vital to use the previous lunation no matter how close to the next lunation you may be.

You would have already been born at the time of the next lunation, so I don't think it would be of much help rectifying a natal chart because the energies have already been set into motion.

Arian Maverick

[Moulin]

OK Thank you Arian :)

[Arian Maverick]

No problem; congratulations again on finding your true Ascendant sign! ;)

I'll miss commiserating with you about this! :p

Arian Maverick

[Moulin]

hehe me too :)

but at least l have another cardinal sign to balance all that Aries!!!!! lol :P
Do you know your ascendant? Can we all now help you with it? :D

I'm going to stick with your interpretation of Capricorn 5deg because you did it perfectly. Thank you Arian, really appreciate your and everyone else's help on this. Feels so good to not have to worry about what my ascendant is anymore!!!

Moulin xx

No problem; congratulations again on finding your true Ascendant sign! ;)

I'll miss commiserating with you about this! :p

Arian Maverick

[sheila]

It's ok Lilly.

I would love to have a go at rectification although it seems that l have planets at important points/angles with a few ascendants.

Any suggestions on what would be an important aspect to zone in on just one or two? :)
Use Solar Arcs aprox 1 day = 1year
Major Transits.
Computer programs will work these out for you
Rember you are looking for Angles ASC and MC
Look at the profile for ascendants before you start.
Eg Sagittarius can be outgoing
Cap serious
Then ask a close friend how they see you.
Ask your parents to describe you
Dont rely on your own judgement of self,we are often wrong.
Set up charts for the Ascendants you have chosen then see if events fit the angles.
It can be very time consuming but interesting.
But then I am a Virgo ascendant and love searching facts
Good luck with your quest.