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4leafclovah
01-22-2008, 09:08 PM
Can someone get this chart? Ill try digging it up...

Bobbi
01-22-2008, 10:37 PM
Hi Fourleafclovah,
OMG !!!!!!! unbelievable ....Could you please post the DOB & time, I can't read the chart details, its just too small..The full moon here in OZ approx 12.35am this morning.... What time US did it happen ? The moon conjunct MC OPP the Sun !!!!! I can see His sun 4th house also Chiron is there. Have got to go to work , but will come back to it later this afternoon.
RIP Heath , blessings to his daughter, now left behind without her father
Feeling very very sad
Bobbi

4leafclovah
01-22-2008, 10:39 PM
Neptune about to enter 21 Aquarius, a critical degree. I think it symbolizes a public shock. Awareness via Neptune(celebrity, illusion) effecting the collective consciousness through an unexpected event(Uranus)with Uranus in Pisces also supporting that.

Derestanne
01-22-2008, 11:06 PM
And in Ledger's Progressed Chart, note his Chiron - Sun Conjunction at the Nadir (IC) Line. Over my many years of experience with both myself and my Clients, I note that Progressed Sun at this point is typical of depression, low energy, emotional issues ("winter blues" syndrome). A real sense of gloom, life not worth living, etc. Conjunct with Chiron even worse - feeling of helplessness, etc.

What I particularly find tragic about this is that I have many Gay Friends and Clients and, as a Star in the movie "Brokeback Mountain", Ledger was a role model and even a hero to many in the Gay Community.

4leafclovah
01-22-2008, 11:09 PM
Hi Fourleafclovah,
OMG !!!!!!! unbelievable ....Could you please post the DOB & time, I can't read the chart details, its just too small..The full moon here in OZ approx 12.35am this morning.... What time US did it happen ? The moon conjunct MC OPP the Sun !!!!! I can see His sun 4th house also Chiron is there. Have got to go to work , but will come back to it later this afternoon.
RIP Heath , blessings to his daughter, now left behind without her father
Feeling very very sad
Bobbi

Bobbi, I do not have the exact time of death. I can revise the chart once I get the exact time.

Neptune at its Finest
01-22-2008, 11:13 PM
Neptune about to enter 21 Aquarius, a critical degree.

21 degrees Aquarius symbol:
321st degree: Monk lying face upward on the naked earth this one refers to 317th
317th degree: A Sick Woman in Bed...

this (17 degrees Aquarius) is by far one of the worst degrees in the zodiac. I find it seems to have been an accidental death as this represent idiocy and loafing and poisoning. Definitely an accidental overdose.

Really a shocker...didn't expect that one. Yeah, it does remind me of River Pheonix's death. Sad.

4leafclovah
01-22-2008, 11:19 PM
Pluto at 29 Sagittarius=death of an Australian? Sagg is the ruler of Australia. Also,notice the the number 28 repeated several times in his chart( He was 28 yrs old.) Natal Neptune at 20:28/12th house square N.Mercury/Mars and transiting Nep conjunct Mercury re-establishing that connection in Aquarius.

Kingsley
01-22-2008, 11:24 PM
I am sad to hear that an expatriot from Perth such as Heath Ledger has died. It is interesting that the full moon last night in Perth shows quite a strong reference to death and separation. I will post the chart in a minute.

kingsely

4leafclovah
01-22-2008, 11:24 PM
Look at the degree of his ascendant!

Kingsley
01-22-2008, 11:27 PM
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/imagehosting/580147968987ca392.jpg

Full Moon in perth last night. Its weird, I did a reality blog last night showing the full moon in Perth.

k

4leafclovah
01-22-2008, 11:29 PM
King, thanks for that chart..

Neptune at its Finest
01-22-2008, 11:39 PM
Progressed 13 Aquarius Ascendant:

Symbol: An array of mediaeval knights; shield, doublets and shabracks are showily trimmed with each warrior's own heraldry.

14 Aquarius symbol:


Endowed with a poor memory but alive to the slightest impressions of pain, the native will, right in the middle of his earthly life, face sudden disaster, as injury to life and limb, financial breakdown or any other accidnet. Such a mishap will prevent the native from getting on in one of his activities, in which he is unlikely to pick himself up again. From then on, should the interrupted work have been his main one, the native's future will really be in God's hands. (360 degrees of the Zodiac)

Neptune at its Finest
01-22-2008, 11:45 PM
4 leaf, I can't quite read posted chart. Could you post birth info. so I can look at this later. Too many kids and chaos right now....LOL :o

Catatonia
01-23-2008, 12:00 AM
How did you get Heath's birthtime? No one knows his birth time.

4leafclovah
01-23-2008, 12:01 AM
How did you get Heath's birthtime? No one knows his birth time.

I have my sun in the 8th, I'm good at digging ;)

4leafclovah
01-23-2008, 12:04 AM
Heath was born April 4, 1979. I had to cut it out so the chart would fit.

4leafclovah
01-23-2008, 12:16 AM
Please forgive me folks...I put 12 am instead pm. I have to do this all over. Hopefully the info I am referring to is correct.

4leafclovah
01-23-2008, 12:28 AM
OK, the chart I see online has 12pm..Hopefully someone can verify this is correct. Sorry about this folks. I'd like to know which chart is correct so I can delete the other..

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/imagehosting/6245479697b28d484.gif

Catatonia
01-23-2008, 12:29 AM
I have my sun in the 8th, I'm good at digging ;)

That's great, but the 8th has nothing to do with digging.

Post your source.

Neptune at its Finest
01-23-2008, 12:42 AM
Ouch! Just a quick glance and it looks pretty scary. Transiting 8th house 21 Aquarius Sun trining Asc. 22 Gemini and the third point is natal Pluto in the 4th house end of life. You know what they say. Trine happens! All those planets in the eighth including Neptune death by drug poisoning

4leafclovah
01-23-2008, 12:42 AM
...post the source, otherwise your chart is invalid.

HL's date of birth is all over the net, just press a few bottons and go look. I've already spent enough time looking. If someone could confirm the time as am or pm I would greatly appreciate it.

Kingsley
01-23-2008, 12:47 AM
It is a midnight chart now clover, I will use a midday time for charts without correct times, unless I rectify that and state that in the chart details. Perhaps the charts on the net are midday/midnight ones?

Plenty of people are born at midnight, I think you get the option on birth certificates to claim wich day you prefer. 11 59 pm or 00 01 am. Be good if your info is accurate.

kingsley

4leafclovah
01-23-2008, 12:49 AM
King, sorry..The first or second chart is correct? I'm confused now. I will delete the other chart(s)

4leafclovah
01-23-2008, 12:51 AM
Here is my source http://www.astrotheme.fr/en/portrait.php?info=1&clef=rQezNc74f32R

lillyjgc
01-23-2008, 01:17 AM
Hi- Birth time of Heath Ledger is unknown.....All we can do is an Event chart for T of Death- or a horary...*what happened to Heath Ledger?*

These are lethal transits in play now- take care everyone.
Its very sad.
Lillyjgc

Catatonia
01-23-2008, 01:27 AM
It says 12:00PM (unknown).. that means..it is unknown.

No ascending signs, no guesses. Worth with what we have, people. Pluto going over natal Neptune..Mars RX opposing Neptune..Pluto squaring natal Mars..

Catatonia

Kingsley
01-23-2008, 01:30 AM
Another western australian having problems with his saturn return is Ben Cousins

k

Catatonia
01-23-2008, 01:47 AM
The Saturn Return is target #1. I love the way I first looked at his chart..realized he was going through his saturn return and just pushed into the back burner because it's obvious case of "I'm turning into an adult..how do I deal with this?"

of course, other things also..

universal
01-23-2008, 02:58 AM
I too regret the passing of such a talented young man - Heath, many people loved you here.

PS As a fellow 8th House Sun, I agree with 4leafclovah that our nature is to dig deep. As Pluto is the natural ruler of that house, that stands to reason.

4leafclovah
01-23-2008, 03:08 AM
As a fellow 8th House Sun, I agree with 4leafclovah that our nature is to dig deep. As Pluto is the natural ruler of that house, that stands to reason. Yes indeed it does!;)

Liquid Green
01-23-2008, 04:22 AM
:(:(:(:(:(


Why do all the good looking, hunky, talented stars die? I am so sad.......
Sad that his life will only now be a memory..........he had potential to be in the movie world for a long time.

and i concur that noone knows his time of birth......only about 2 weeks ago i searched for it....for an asc thread that was going on, on this forum.....i couldnt find anything but.....unknown.

Kingsley, not sure where you are in WA, but you know if perth is in mourning?
So sad.

May you get your wings and fly Heath.
All strength to his family.

LG:(

johnmike59
01-23-2008, 05:49 AM
http://imdb.com/name/nm0005132/news

I'm sure you all know this wonderful site - this item states what time he was found. The second link gives background info.

johnmike59
01-23-2008, 05:53 AM
http://imdb.com/name/nm0005132/bio

I am sure many of you know this wonderful site - often, they post the TOB for celebrites. That's not the case here, but I thought some background might shed some light.

Such a shame!

Natasha
01-23-2008, 09:31 AM
Heath was in the middle of his Saturn return cycle Saturn
His returned in august 07 then 10 jan 08
And second hit of saturn opposite venus in a few days time
And a few Jupiter transits this month - I have heard that Jupiter is often around when a person dies

lillyjgc
01-23-2008, 09:52 AM
Natasha,
While his saturn return was part of it, I might point out that I had a worse saturn return but I am not dead- so obviously more factors come into play.Apparently he suffered from insomnia and was prescribed stillnox- a sleeping pill that can cause (among other things) suicidal thoughts. I have had experience with this medication. (IMO it should not be prescribed at all)..Neptune must be significantly involved....and as mars hangs around the opposition to pluto at the moment,acting as a *trigger*, it is likely his ascendant (which we dont know) is involved.
Cheers, Lillyjgc

Neptune at its Finest
01-23-2008, 09:56 AM
Heath was in the middle of his Saturn return cycle Saturn
His returned in august 07 then 10 jan 08
And second hit of saturn opposite venus in a few days time
And a few Jupiter transits this month - I have heard that Jupiter is often around when a person dies

Yes. I have always heard that Jupiter is definitely significant when a person dies.

Natasha
01-23-2008, 09:58 AM
Pluto was also inconjunct his Jupiter - second hit
He had just completed his Pluto Square Mars cycle in Nov 07
He had also had Neptune square his Uranus (a generational transit)
SO quite a few transits we happening for him
Pluto inconjunct Jupiter is quite significant I feel

I would not assume he killed himself
It could have been accidental or caused by health. I read that he had pneunomea

I feel that times or likelhood of birth & death are not clear cut or can be scientifically analysed by establishing that person x reacts one way therefore so will person b

My feeling is that Heath died accidently or due to a health reason - but this is only a natasha hunch...

lillyjgc
01-23-2008, 10:01 AM
Hi- not assuming he killed himself and as he had booked a masseuse to come to his room its likely he didnt have an intention prior...but stillnox has been blamed for a number of suicides-it certainly cant be ruled out-and hasnt been!
Cheers, lillyjgc

lillyjgc
01-23-2008, 10:07 AM
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/
For you non aussies who are reading this thread...
lillyjgc

Natasha
01-23-2008, 10:23 AM
Jupiter was trine his Chiron the day he died.

Natasha
01-23-2008, 10:35 AM
Lilly
i dont think he killed himself
I dont think he was thinking "i wanna kill myself. i will die naked." Naw.. his death was accidnetal ..he overdozed on prescription drugs
i guess he never heard of Jim Morrison
this should be a wake up call to Owen Wilson
T
Indeed my feelings also tikana - I feel it was accidental and that he overdozed on prescription drugs
and how many famous people have died this way - many Elvis comes to mind - we saw a show on cable just the other day about Elvis & presciption drugs; Marilyn & prescription drugs also is another icon who died that way
I wonder if its a spiral into using more & more to get a desired result and or being out of touch with ones body & not "hearing" the bodies cries
He had been having some pretty heavy transit eg the Pluto Mars at the same time as the Saturn return and Saturn venus plus the others I mentioned- would have stirred a lot of confusing energies in a person - if we cant hear our inner self & our body talking to us .... its hard
Drugs block our inner connection to ourselves I am inclined to believe
Of course drugs are not the only thing to do this - our post modernity society is laden with things which keep us disconnected - living in artifical environments eg air conditioning running 24/7 in buildings with no opening windows - so we feel like lab rats - for starters
Jupiter trine chriron - accidently death....

VenusInAries
01-23-2008, 12:32 PM
I personally think it was a suicide but an accident. He was in pain and was hoping someone would find him, that he only wanted to the pain to stop. He was an addict (friends say he has been clean a year) but yet the personality is there.. he also has that mars and venus in pisces (addiction) and it's easy to get lost in pain..feel too much .. get overwhelmed by the feelings..

That shy painful energy is then coupled with having saturn oppose venus.. feelings of being alone..never loved truly.. they said he was always amazed when he got good reviews feeling he was always terrible.. (never deserving)

The first hit of his Saturn return.. the mother of his daughter leaves him.. looking 7 years ago when Saturn squared that saturn venus opposition Heather Graham (then girlfriend) left him.. Now he has been seeing Gemma Ward.. they spend every single day together during a week on christmas break.. Away from each other for a bit..her wrapping up a movie..him filming one.. she just turned 20..just did her first movie.. was just recently discovered.. she has Moon jupiter conjunction in aries.. (young..aries energy perhaps doesn't want to be to tied down..freedom)

.. they just were seen having dinner on Monday evening...saturn hitting that oppposition again.. she broke up with him?? At same time transiting mercury and neptune conjunction (confused thinking).. with the heaviness of Saturn weighing down on his venus (feeling isolated..alone).. it was not an accidnet.. those planets he has in pisces was feeling overwhelmed..alone..but if you really want to die you aren't going to do it when you know you have someone coming over..but maybe you do it if you just want out of the pain for the moment (remember and addict that can't handle pain) but you don't want to be gone forever..so maybe someone will find you..save you .. pisces - virgo axis.. but no one did

VenusInAries
01-23-2008, 12:59 PM
oh side note.. Miltilda Rose's chart 10-28-2005 has saturn oppose neptune.. poor baby.. aspect of a missing father

johnmike59
01-23-2008, 01:08 PM
<<I have heard that Jupiter is often around when a person dies. >>

Now I'd never heard that and I find that very interesting. I will have to look back to where he was around July 2005, when my dear mother passed.

The toxicology report is due out this AM - then we will know once and for all. My sense is that it was accidental - though he was taking two different anti-anxiety medications at the same time and a sleeping medication. How much?

Well, we shall just have to wait and see. ;(

flea
01-23-2008, 01:17 PM
This was one the website for the perth newspaper, he spent a lot of time there since december. The press did not let on, they gave him complete space, and no column inches.

******He recently rang The West Australian newspaper's film editor Mark Naglazas and left an extended message thanking media outlets.

"I don't know whether it's a conscious thing or an unconscious thing, giving me space and respecting my privacy,'' he told the newspaper.

"It's just been awesome.

"And I've had the most beautiful time back here and being able to see all my friends and family, let alone the press and the people within the community of Perth, it's been so lovely.

"It's really enabled me to be a boy again from home and feel like I'd never left.

"It's truly been an incredibly therapeutic and a much-needed trip home and just that little touch has made it all that more special to me.''*********


Very touching, deeply felt, very thoughtful person. There were reports that the characters he played, in the Dylan movie and the Batman one, were difficult and effected his ability to sleep. Is there any indication of losing oneself too much in a character and not being able to find your own centre again, in the natal?? I suppose transiting pluto squaring mars/mercury could indicate a vast oversupply of nervous energy and anxiety, that was difficult to control.


Love Light Peace
Flea

VenusInAries
01-23-2008, 01:19 PM
He has Mercury Venus Mars in Pisces.. Pisces gets lost in the character.. Pisces can feel what others feel to the point they don't it's not really their own emotions anymore

flea
01-23-2008, 01:30 PM
with a cancer moon ontop of that no wonder he was something special....

VenusInAries
01-23-2008, 01:36 PM
Certianly someone special.. Jeffery Wolf Greens has done alot of research on Uranus and once told me that Uranus in the 12th house can cause insomina.. wonder if that was an on going thing in his life or just recently.. perhaps I can play with a chart making transiting Uranus in the 12th if it was temporary or natally if it was an on going thing just for fun :)

VenusInAries
01-23-2008, 01:45 PM
ahh good point king.. and transiting mercury conjunct neptune was square his uranus.. perhaps hallucination of some sort was key

flea
01-23-2008, 01:57 PM
A timely reminder of how powerful prescription drugs really are, sometimes I think we all look at them as being safe..... Panadol and aspirin are seen as smarties. How well do drug companies test combinations of drugs.... not much i suspect. The figures on whose in hospital because of prescribed drugs is surprisingly high. Maybe his death will bring about a more serious discussion of what we all put into our bodies witout thinking , and blindly trusting those who prescribe.

And mars hovering opp pluto for quite a while is difficult for us all in all kinds of flare ups. Be interesting to watch mars opp pluto when it hits exact again.

Love Light Peace
Flea

4leafclovah
01-23-2008, 07:47 PM
another venusinaries ;)

Another right here!:D

VenusInAries
01-23-2008, 08:02 PM
( hugs to my venus in aries sisters) Well it's my hopes it was some kind of accident or related to his pnemonia but if drugs or suicide was involved I will be very upset with him .. that little girl needs her daddy and that is so heart breaking.. but my mercury in gemini in the 8th house is detaching from the emotions of it all and just trying to sleuth it out.. would feel better if Gemma made a statement and the toxicology report came back though. So hopefully again I'm not offending anyone with my ideas of suicide but with no time involved its hard to say.. just because it was saturn opppose venus doesn't mean it was horrible right? I mean when I had Saturn conjunct my venus in the 6th house.. it wasn't bad at all it was great.. I became more focused and disciplined with my work out habits.. focused on the beauty (venus) of routine (6th house) and became very focused on the beauty (venus) of my teeth (ruled by saturn) and I had cosmetic surgery to perfect my smile into a dazzling pearly gate of wonderment I did not experience anything bad with saturn conjunct my venus..then my saturn return (saturn in 7th house) I got married.. so really even though I am concerned with his saturn return and that natal saturn oppose venus it really could have no effect on this death at all depending on what house it was effecting.. hopefully that made sense.

VenusInAries
01-23-2008, 08:12 PM
sorry meant to say a NY news station

barbh
01-24-2008, 05:13 PM
The Saturn transit to his Venus is just reinforcing his natal Saturn Venus opposition. I've always heard that a transit is much more profound when you already have those planets in aspect. I've certainly found that, as I have a Saturn Venus square natally, and I can certainly relate to the heartbreak of his romantic life. The Saturn put the pressure on, but don't forget Jupiter was the outlet...it was sextiling his Venus. Jupiter is the escape...could even be seen as the 'great escape'....or death. Just a thought.
barb

nemessis1981
01-24-2008, 06:51 PM
i found out from a site that he had a cancer asc,with moon in the first house,so his bday time would be around 1pm

magj-kat
01-24-2008, 06:57 PM
having had alot of heartbreak with Saturn returns in my family...my sister died on her 2nd Saturn age 58..and my dad..on his 3rd Saturn..age 89..jup was conjunct his venus... i think..but he was very sick, and we expected it.
anyone remember their 1st!? I do... it was pretty wild..very transitional.

tsquare
01-25-2008, 04:04 AM
He had a really powerfull sun I believe....sun in aries....leo decante...
there are some interseting aspects there....but to go into detail is hard without a deffinate asc. at least for me....I'd like to see houses. and I want to know if his moon was in the firstH cancer....and if pluto retro was in the 4thH libra.
I think there is alot in his chart that says he was going to be something big but picking it all apart and putting it out is hard.
From playing a ressurected Bob Dylan
to The Joker....a very drastic change, and from previews...an amazing performance it looks..very chalenging role.....
to what he was going to do next...which looked like a drastic change from the joker....I realy think he was getting even bigger and professionally things were going amazing...he was getting into what he wanted to do....I think that really would have happened for him after the saturn return.....lots of hard work put in there for him....lots of transformations......
I really want a time of birth!(laughing)
I am having a hard time puting stuff together without have a base chart to visualize and play some knowledge off of.....

flea
01-25-2008, 04:19 AM
is it possible to come up with some options based on the timing of his move to sydney and the big move to Hollywood, and gettting his first major film role, in the update of taming the shrew?

LLP
Flea

tikana
01-25-2008, 04:22 AM
Flea

i looked for it.. hard to say

maybe go by when his daughter was born?

Tik

lillyjgc
01-25-2008, 04:54 AM
Hi folks-apparently Time of death was 3:36pm, should anyone want to use death time to rectify his chart.....shouldnt be too hard....
Lillyjgc

lillyjgc
01-25-2008, 06:06 AM
LG: Here is the source of my time of death...Apparently he WAS alive when the masseuse arrived but a variation of death time of a few minutes would not greatly affect the rectification.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23106969-5001021,00.html
lillyjgc

VenusInAries
01-25-2008, 07:06 AM
yes the drug companies are a whole nother can of worms I think it's just a big scam racket to keep people addicted to keep making them money never to cure anyone.

You know my focus is really now more on the this mercury neptune thing with fluid in the lungs and him having pneumonia but I still don't wanna take away the power of that saturn return sitting on his venus saturn opposition butttttt instead of being a factor I'm wondering that Gemma Ward's sister made statements to the fact he was very frustrated and upset about not having more time with his daughter and feeling lonely about it..perhaps if that saturn venus opposition is connected to his 5th house could explain his heart ache with "short term" romances (5th house) and with the recent feeling of pain from being away from Matilda? So that could give him what perhaps a taurus or scorpio rising to have it in the 5th and 11th house..unsure doing this by head.. I would say more scorpio than taurus if that's the case putting aquarius in the 4th house..uranus in his 1st which might be where i got the impression of him being an aquarius rising.. mercury being the ruler of his 8th house it was pisces again doing this by head so not sure of the degree w/out looking it up..I dunno scorpio rising though..that would put his sun perhaps in the 6th well could maybe be in the 5th which is on stage and acting right..I might play around with a scorpio rising chart with events in his life and see if I can find anything out..but gonna finish my apple and off to bed night all

Moulin
01-25-2008, 07:15 AM
he looks like a scorp rising to me

lillyjgc
01-25-2008, 07:33 AM
Hi- *Guessing* the ascendant is pointless. lets stick to astrology shall we? The only way we can gain information about his death is to look at the event chart or a horary....otherwise we could go on speculating like this...
Fact is We DONT have his birth time....but rectification could give it to us...When death occurs there has to be some aspect to the ascendant as the ascendant represents the physical body.
This man lived and worked overseas, so that would show in his H9 cusp or planets.....
He began his acting career in 1989 and in 1995 moved from Perth to sydney-a H9 move.
As h12 rules sleep, perhaps his h12 holds a clue as a transit to it, or planets in it, might show insomnia.(the reasons he was taking meds)
He had drug abuse problems in the past- look to Neptune strong in the chart...He was on meds used for depression at the time of his death.
he had separated from his child-so h5 would show that...and from his fiancee-transits would show when that occurred and i'm sure the gossip mags would have a few helpful dates...
His acting career would show in strong h5-h10 relationships....
He suffered from depression- the moon may be in cancer, (between 5 deg and 16 deg..)perhaps badly aspected by mercury....
As he is a high profile name one would expect a strong tenth house.
With rectification one takes what facts one has and tries to construct from there....I'll play around with it....
Cheers, lillyjgc

wilsontc
01-25-2008, 05:42 PM
To all,

I have removed the non-astrological posts to this thread. General comments about Heath Ledger are here:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8021

Discussions about medicine and medical companies are here:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8022

Moderately,

Tim

BárholBármikor
01-25-2008, 05:47 PM
R.I.P Heath.
I've heard somewhere that his Ascendant is Aquarious.

lillyjgc
01-27-2008, 01:24 PM
For those interested in rectification using time of death-This link is the latest information available:
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23119052-5001021,00.html
Lillyjgc

Liquid Green
02-07-2008, 09:03 PM
well toxicology seems to have shown it was an accident!:P

Sag Moon
02-07-2008, 10:13 PM
I looked at the transits I knew Me/Ne would be involved. Sure enough transit Me/Ne squared Natal Uranus.

Would be great to have his chart which we shall when an OZ astrologer gets the info.

I had knew what happened as I knew he did not die intentionally.

Liquid Green
02-07-2008, 10:27 PM
not sure and oz astrologer would have anymore luck in getting his birth info, than anyone else.........times of birth are not on birth records here in australia.........and i doubt the hospital would give out details, if even we could find what hospital he was born in......he could have been born at home for all we know........or in the car on the way to the hospital!

flea
02-08-2008, 04:40 AM
Was a strange thing that the prescription drugs built up in the system over time and that it wasn't an overdose as such. Raises many questions about the nature of those drugs?? After a relationship breakup I remember a similar combination of drugs being given to me over a period of time. I was quite paranoid and kept a diary of my useage and worked to stop taking them as soon as I could. I dont get paranoid often but I did with this.

Love Light Flea

redwolf481
02-28-2008, 09:45 AM
heath ledger was a gemini rising in the libra decanate...I am almost positive....

redwolf481
02-28-2008, 05:00 PM
Thanks for that, but what makes you so positive? can you back this up please?
:)

well there is no time for heath ledger on the net...so no there is no way i can back this up...technichally......i have gotten really good at spotting rising signs by observing people and what people look like......and also saw some astrolgers talking about it and it makes sense to me.....it also makes sense with the placement of his planets.....

redwolf481
02-28-2008, 05:19 PM
heath ledgers death very much spooked me..because I can relate to it.............I am an actor as well...and you see people who try and enter this career by looking at us weekly magazines and you see people who enter this career because they love story and exploring the motivations behind people...a lot of actors get typecast or do certain roles...to be a johnny depp, a heath ledger, a daniel day lewis...you have to be very vigilant about what you put your face on and its very hard to do.... heath ledger wow if I could ever make the choices he made with his career...I would make them as well....just the type of roles he went after allways made me jealous....i very much related to him I know that sounds wierd.......his most powerful planet is his moon..oro its one of the most powerful in the chart...his moon in cancer.....while I don't have that I have mercury mars, ceres in cancer there all very important planets in my chart and make many aspects....I am also a gemini with libra rising.....june 15 the day after my birthday mercury went retrograde on top of my mercury and I started having problems with sleeping.....between then nand the end of august I would stay up for 4-5 days a week...I would work out with a personal trainer who worked me out like I was in football....and then go to work where it was a ton of physical work and then go home and do the same thing the nest day...i was exhausted my body was exhausted but my mind just wouldn't shut off...... around august it did but around october it started up again and in novemeber when mars went retrograde on my mars(exactly on my midheaven) I started being able to sleep again......duri ng this time I became so desperate to sleep I did stupid things...I would take more than was prescribed for sleeping pills...I would mix them, I even one day took a bunch of benedryl with everclear.......none of that worked I was just really messed up the next day........to hear heath ledger talk about the same thing in his new york times interview was scary....

Quinn Johnson
06/14/1985
Canoga park,ca
2:10 pm

redwolf481
03-01-2008, 09:02 AM
oh thanks....I am no astrologer...I have tried to find every website on astrology on the net the last 2 years....and learn as much as I can without actually buying books in the store..and I know many astrologers including jeanne avery.....and my dad's a numerologist to the stars.....(he taught me nada though)but I don't consider myself fit in any way to even come close to calling myself an astrologer....but ist wierd leo people(Sun, or rising sign) really look like lions...some remind me of young cubs...some seem to have manes....pices rising do look like fish people to me...and many of them have big ears....and some remind me of mer people....capricorn risings are easy to spot cause of the nose.....scorpios too ....I dunno its wierd I mean I figured my cast member's rising sign and her rulers planet buy looking at her its crazy lol.....but no astrologer

Wasnt exactly astrologically persuasive, but get the jist and would suit some of his times, especially when the end was near.
Havent quite got a handle on Asc relating to appearance, regards planets in 1st house and the Asc itself, but can see how Gemini/Mercury can fit.

Yeah, spotting an Asc can be quite fun to do. :D

Taking an early guess, from now on he will be remembered as "The Joker" from his film roles.

He did pass in a foreign county and very much 12th house type stuff, so yeah, without transits it does fit. Thanks.
Maybe you should do astrology instead of acting, though sure it does help with your day job. ;)

Moulin
03-01-2008, 09:09 AM
oh thanks....I am no astrologer...I have tried to find every website on astrology on the net the last 2 years....and learn as much as I can without actually buying books in the store..and I know many astrologers including jeanne avery.....and my dad's a numerologist to the stars.....(he taught me nada though)but I don't consider myself fit in any way to even come close to calling myself an astrologer....but ist wierd leo people(Sun, or rising sign) really look like lions...some remind me of young cubs...some seem to have manes....pices rising do look like fish people to me...and many of them have big ears....and some remind me of mer people....capricorn risings are easy to spot cause of the nose.....scorpios too ....I dunno its wierd I mean I figured my cast member's rising sign and her rulers planet buy looking at her its crazy lol.....but no astrologer

I agree Redwolf - pisces sun/risings do look like fish! Gonna now go look at my pics to see if l look like a lioness :D

btw, so interesting that your dad was into numerology. I love numerology!

jamiescott
10-03-2008, 12:06 PM
Best movie - Two Hands.

Tribute - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEn3eHh9M8M

BobZemco
10-03-2008, 02:49 PM
Hi folks-apparently Time of death was 3:36pm, should anyone want to use death time to rectify his chart.....shouldnt be too hard....
Lillyjgc

I don't know who this guy is, but his birth time was probably closer to 5:30 pm, about 5:27 pm or so.

That would give him a Virgo Ascendant. His natal Vertex would oppose Ascendant, fating him to be linked to others, such as through acting. His Sun ruling the Leo 12th would be in the 7th House, the ruler of the 5th (Saturn) in the 12th, the Moon in Cancer in the Gemini 10th (square Sun), with the ruler Mercury conjunct Mars in the 6th (and all conjunct the natal Vertex) are typical planet/house placements for the chart of an actor (that does not mean that everyone with Saturn in the 12th is destined to be an actor -- lest someone miscontrue my meaning).

On his death, more or less, there's a Saturn return, with transiting Pluto opposing the MC.

Progressed Mercury ruling the 10th is opposed to natal/progressed Pluto.

Progressed Venus ruling the 9th is quincunx Pluto and the progressed Sun opposes the progressed Ascendant.

Progressed Jupiter is conjunct progressed Moon and both trine natal Mars ruling the 8th.

Transiting Uranus ruling the 6th was in the 6th quincunx natal Pluto.

Progressed MC also trined natal Mars ruling the 8th.

If someone wants to take it from there, have fun. Too bad people don't obsess over their neighbors the way they obsess with total strangers. Wonder what the world would be like.