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Lulu-B
01-12-2008, 06:32 PM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?

Moulin
01-12-2008, 06:46 PM
Amazing that you and your mum are both Aquarius.

I think it's an interesting idea Sidereal cos the other day l was contemplating the possibility that l was Aquarius rising and my mum is Aquarius moon :)

It moves my Aries stellium from 1st to 2nd house though and not sure what that means.

tsquare
01-12-2008, 07:19 PM
Could be.....Tropical my moms moon is Leo, and my moon is leo.......I've never looked at her chart in vedic, but in mine my moon is cancer conJ asc....
Doesn't work for my brothers though.....piscies moon, cap moon.....Then again.....my middle bro. had his umbilical cord around his neck when he was born and my other brother had troubles breathing when he was born.....I also had a birth problem......I was born with jaundice.........I got the light treatment....(laughing)...not real bad if your a leo asc(joke). It was like lying in an incubator for 3 days I guess......

rahu
01-12-2008, 07:52 PM
im a pisces rising and my mother is a moon in leo.
rahu[natural birth]
i have found a strong coorelation between one moon ,if a man,and one's spouses sun sign.

Lulu-B
01-12-2008, 08:12 PM
Rahu, I can see that too. Not exactly the same thing but my husbands moon is in 8 degrees Aquarius and my rising sign is 8 degrees Aquarius.
My brothers moon is in Libra so it doesn't work with my mom either since hse is a moon in Aquarius. He's older too though.
I also read somewhere, a little off topic, that our moon sign is the self that we project onto our mother and may not necessarily be her true nature. Maybe I should throw a thread up about that because that is cool too. My moon is in Aries and I so see my mom as a little powerhouse. She kind of scares me she has so much energy!

Oh, ya, Rahu, my brothers moon is in Libra and he is hooked up right now with a Libra girl around the same degree. I've heard that might be because men repress their feminine sides and the expression of it comes from without. What do you think about that?

Moulin
01-12-2008, 08:25 PM
Does it work if the woman's moon is same element (fire) as the mans sun/moon?

Wondering if this sun/moon thingy is more important than the 7th ruler...

My guy's 7th ruler is Taurus and i'm a middle aged cow :D

Arian Maverick
01-12-2008, 08:50 PM
This is an interesting theory, but as others have mentioned, I doubt that it always works if a mother has multiple children, all of whom were born naturally.

Unfortunately, the number of children born "naturally" has decreased sharply throughout the years, what with the apparent rise of infertility and the accompanying IVF and other fertility treatments; even if such an "artificially"-conceived child were not to be born via Cesarean section or induction, would you consider this child to have had a "natural" birth?

There are quite a few other scenarios that I can think of which test the boundaries of this definition of a "natural birth," such as if the mother needed the assistance of pitocin if labor had stopped--this happened to my mother when I was born--or if she had requested an epidural or other pain-relieving medication but her labor had not been induced, and she proceeded to deliver "naturally" after the medication had been administered.

The strictest definition would probably apply to an incredibly small percentage of the infant population, but it would be interesting to study this small percentage to see if there were any significant correlation between these babies' rising signs and the mother's moon signs.

My moon is in Aries and I so see my mom as a little powerhouse. She kind of scares me she has so much energy!

Although my brother and I have our natal Moon in different signs, we share similar Moon influences; I have an Aries Moon and he has an exalted Mars conjunct a debilitated Capricorn Moon. One would assume that our mother was a fire sign, or else had some other strong Mars influence, but she's a Libra with a Libra stellium, which includes a debilitated Mars in Libra! Unfortunately, I don't have her exact time of birth because it was not recorded on her birth certificate, but I know that I certainly perceive her as a "little powerhouse." That's a very apt description, since she is under five feet tall; don't mess with her, though! :eek: :D

Arian Maverick

Jenna Jupiter
01-12-2008, 09:08 PM
My mother's moon: Leo. My rising sign: Virgo.

Lulu-B
01-12-2008, 09:23 PM
Arian Maveric- I'm a little off topic again, but I have found that alot of Aries woman that I meet are short with a powerful presence. It's like they'are in this compact little package that is all an attempt to fool ya! Hmm, but now that I think about it tall of these short Aries that I knew who had this powerful presence were all my bosses. I tend to have ALOT of Aries female bosses in my background. They always LOVED me too. They always thought we were friends.Maybe it was all of my planets in fire signs. They liked me because if I'm going to do something I'm going to do it well. Unfortunatley that meant they would have me do everything. They thought I should feel privelaged because they would entrust me with work!
Ya, I'd don't think that the whole mommoon sign rising sign thing is always true, I just thought it was a neat theory. AM your right though, what constitutes a natural birth nowadays? I've heard that baby's who were conceived with from use of fertility treatments are born with a much weaker constitution. This nurse told me she can always tell the babys that were conceived this way.
Oh, and one more thing. My mom used castor oil to get me out quicker, so my birth wasn't really natural either. But, of course we're meant to be born when we're meant to be born, right? There's another thread though, right.

Bizquit
01-12-2008, 09:54 PM
In my case, my ASC is conjunct my mother's Venus. My sister's ASC is trine my Mum's Moon.

Both of us were conceived and born "naturally" (no C-section, IVF, forceps, chemical induction, oxytocin, or epidural).

Bobbi
01-12-2008, 10:40 PM
Ive just had a look at my family's stuff, and no matches anywhere ( but the timings of my parents arn't that accurate )...but something else I was reading on 'Conception in the chart' on another thread here, was that if you work form the 9th house counter clockwise, which ever planet comes first ..... If its the Sun your father's spirit invoked for the reason of the karma/lessons for all etc , if its the moon it was your mothers purpose to bring you in. So maybe just because our mother is the one that gives birth to us, may not necessarily mean it was her intention to have us here ,Maybe our Asc's can be connected to our fathers stuff as well. So why don't we have a look at the fathers chart to and see where his moon is ? Or maybe its his sun. When I did the "who invoked me test" for both my sisters & my chart it was our father that invoked both our spirits, and this makes complete sense to us as our mother never wanted to be a mum, she has struggled on a soul level forever , although she has done a wonderful job , we get that we are more connected to our father spiritually than our mum.
Anyway it was just a thought

Bobbi

Stacey5271
01-12-2008, 11:49 PM
I am a Capricorn and my mother's (and husband's) moon is in Capricorn.

My son (natural birth), has his moon in in Sagittarius.

lillyjgc
01-13-2008, 12:45 AM
Hi folks,
Well my rising is capricorn, my birth time is known and my mothers moon is either very late gemini or early cancer.
My mothers ascendant is pisces and I have pisces on the cusp of my H4.
Sister 1: aries rising but her sun is in gemini
Sister 2: has virgo rising and mums ascendant is her H7 cusp.
My conclusions from this is that on a natal the mother and father are shown but the house in which they are shown will describe the relationship between the native and the parent.
I wish it was just that simple-ie that a single placement would identify the mother...how much easier would chart rectification be then! But it isnt borne out by charts of my family....
My son has his sun sign the same as mine and his ascendant is the same as mine. my daughter has same ascendant as her father which is my H7....so it doesnt appear to work..
Cheers Lillyjgc

gaer
01-13-2008, 02:58 AM
My son has his sun sign the same as mine and his ascendant is the same as mine. my daughter has same ascendant as her father which is my H7....so it doesnt appear to work..
Cheers Lillyjgc
It can't work, as we both know. :)

Obviously many families have several daughters, and it is extremely rare to have three or more children with the same AC.

Here is what I have found: considering the Sun, Moon and rising signs, it is very common for a parent to have one or more of those in common, but it often flips position. For instance, you and your son share rising and Sun signs.

If a son is more like his mother, you are likely to find similarities between mother and son.

If a daughter is more like her dad, you often find similarities there.

If both parents are very similar in nature, with a really long-lasting, solid and loving relationship, there may be similarties between the parents and all the children. :)

By the way, my rising sign is the same as my mother's moon. My brother's moon is the same as her AC. Neither of us share the signs of my dad's Sun and Moon, but we have no AC for him.

Gaer

Heart of a Scorpio
01-13-2008, 03:24 AM
I have aries rising.

Mom is Gemini Moon.

I always thought its kinda how your family looks. For example. My dad has a big *** forhead LOL. So, you carry that down Aries are known for big heads. Or pronounced foreheads. I know thats not accurate but its how I viewed it when I was younger.

Astrocurious
01-13-2008, 04:38 AM
My mother's moon sign is in Pisces and my rising sign is in Leo, so I dunno.:o

flea
01-13-2008, 04:43 AM
Hmm,

All C-section. My sis has aries asc which is mum's moon and Dad's sun. Me I'm gemini and my brother is scorpio. Very possible that the mother's emotional state would impact the chemistry of prenancy. So if the moon in the woman is not operating as the chart suggests or is altered due to strong transits this may well effect things. Suppose it is always going to be more complex . I have a complete lack of aries in my chart it is even intercepted.

Love Light Peace
Flea

Stacey5271
01-13-2008, 12:08 PM
Between me, my husband and my 2 kids, we all have either sun or ascendant in water. The only "match" is that husband and daughter share water sun sign (Pisces).

I find Flea's comment about the mother's emotional state extremely interesting. My first husband was very abusive. You could say I took on the Scorpionic tendancy of keeping to myself and not easily sharing my emotions to cope. My son (who was born during that time) has a Scorpio ascendant.

But then how would I apply this to the birth of my daughter? I was/am in a much better marriage and no longer need to hide and protect myself. Her ascenant is Aries (not a match to me, but it is her brother's sun). Her moon doesn't match sun or ascendant of any of us.

flea
01-13-2008, 01:59 PM
Hmm thinking aries ascendent would have a more robust self estemm than some other signs.

Flea X

memento mori
01-13-2008, 02:29 PM
I hv aries ascendant. It's been associated with my violent birth. In fact I had ppl tell me I would've died if i didn't hv rahu in pisces in 12th house.

My mom's moon is in aquarious... and I hv nothing there.

I've also read that sagittariouses are almost always wanted children. Is that true?

Astrocurious
01-13-2008, 03:07 PM
Here are some correlations I just thought of concerning family signs...

My father and I have moon in scorpio...

My daughter and I have venus in scorpio...

My husband has venus in capricorn(I'm a sun cap) and I have venus in scorpio(he's a sun scorpio)....I guess that would mean something? Although our marriage is highly highly karmic:rolleyes: , he has scorpio rising too may I add.:cool: Very hot tempered and moody, addictive personality(gambling) and I should mention also that he has moon in cancer.(top three are water signs:eek:). My daughter is a Libra who strives for balance and harmony and boy is that a problem with us right now, God help us...I'm trying not to let her see how messed up this marriage is.(not sure how long it's going to last, I'm at my WITS end!!!)

My mother, father, and I are all earth sun signs, I'm a cap sun, Father is a Taurus sun, mother is a virgo sun. My mother remarried a man who's birthday is the same as my father's (May 9). So yes, I do have some correlations here but not in regards to moon/ascendant.

drm_lvr56
01-14-2008, 02:23 AM
I'm a Scorpio rising and my mother's moon was Gemini. My moon is also Gemini.

Heart of a Scorpio
01-14-2008, 03:25 AM
Mom:
Rising - Unknown (was told born midnite so that would be VIRGO)
Sun - Sag
Moon - Gem
Merc - Sag
Venus - Scorp
Mars - Leo

Dad:
Rising - Unknown (dunno the guy)
Sun - Gem
Moon - Gem
Merc - Gem
Venus - Can
Mars - Tar

Me:
Sun - Scorp
Moon - Pisces
Merc - Scorp
Venus - Libra
Mars - Virg

Lulu-B
01-15-2008, 03:02 PM
I've also read that sagittariouses are almost always wanted children. Is that true?[/quote]

Hey Momento Mori, I am a Sagittarius, and I think I was wanted, in the beginning! So's my husband and I think that it's the same thing for him too, in the beginning, then our Dad's left. You, know, his mom is a Sag and her Dad left too!

kizmetbaby
01-15-2008, 05:08 PM
There's no denying links in family charts. I think rather than saying something is as specific as your mothers' moon and your rising sign will be the same...in the 20 years I've done this...what I've found is that there will be links...but not necessarily that one.

My mother is an Aquarian with a Leo Moon. Her mother was a Scorpio.

Now then...I am a "natural" birth...BUT...I am a Virgo with a Moon in Aquarius...an 11th House stellium...and a Scorpio Rising Sign.

My children are all c-section babies...and here's what's interesting about that. Although the times weren't planned for the c-sections...my oldest and youngest have Cancer Rising Signs at 2 degrees and at 4 degrees...my middle child has hers in Taurus.

My paternal great grandfather and grandfather...both had their natal sun located at 4 degrees Cancer and 3 degrees Taurus, respectively.

My paternal grandfather has his moon in Cancer.

My paternal grandmother had a Pisces Rising sign...I have natal Neptune in the first house. Her natal Mars is in a tight opposition to my Scorpio Ascendant at 4 degrees Taurus. There are so many links between their charts, mine and my children...that they're too numerous to list here.

The point here is...families are linked whether the birth is natural or by c section. If you read "Astrology Karma and Transformation" by Stephen Arroyo...you might enjoy learning more about how we all have a distinct purpose and plan when we come into this life...and there are choices made, that include free will...but the obstacles presented are part of a greater plan...so to speak.

We are where we're supposed to be.

LHeureBleue
01-17-2008, 04:45 PM
My Sun sign is my mother's Moon sign and my rising sign is my father's Sun sign.

My mother's rising sign is her father's (i.e. my grandfather's) Sun sign.

My father's rising sign is his mother's (i.e. my grandmother's) Sun sign.

So in my family's case the rising sign is the Sun sign of the parent of the opposite sex...

FleetingDasein
01-18-2008, 12:53 AM
This rings true for me.

I am an only child and I was a natural birth.

My mom's moon is in Aries at 0 degrees! I've always considered my ASC to be Pisces (it fits my personality better than Aries) I know that my birth was between a 10 minute range (6:30-6:40pm more or less)and that gives me either late Pisces or Aries.

so who knows? Maybe I am really an Aries Asc :rolleyes:

Heart of a Scorpio
01-18-2008, 04:46 AM
This rings true for me.

I am an only child and I was a natural birth.

My mom's moon is in Aries at 0 degrees! I've always considered my ASC to be Pisces (it fits my personality better than Aries) I know that my birth was between a 10 minute range (6:30-6:40pm more or less)and that gives me either late Pisces or Aries.

so who knows? Maybe I am really an Aries Asc :rolleyes:

only pictures will tell. POST EM!

Astrocurious
01-18-2008, 04:06 PM
Oh yeah, and my mother has mercury in Leo, and I have Leo rising, does that mean anything?:confused: Sorry I seem so oblivious to astrology, I just can't devote TOO much time into learning aspects and configurations at the moment, unfortunately. I'd love to though.

Edit: I'm copying and pasting my previous post because I'm curious if any of the following correlations have some kind of meaning.

Here are some correlations I just thought of concerning family signs...

My father and I have moon in scorpio...

My daughter and I have venus in scorpio...

My husband has venus in capricorn(I'm a sun cap) and I have venus in scorpio(he's a sun scorpio)....I guess that would mean something? Although our marriage is highly highly karmic:rolleyes: , he has scorpio rising too may I add.:cool: Very hot tempered and moody, addictive personality(gambling) and I should mention also that he has moon in cancer.(top three are water signs:eek:). My daughter is a Libra who strives for balance and harmony and boy is that a problem with us right now, God help us...I'm trying not to let her see how messed up this marriage is.(not sure how long it's going to last, I'm at my WITS end!!!)

My mother, father, and I are all earth sun signs, I'm a cap sun, Father is a Taurus sun, mother is a virgo sun. My mother remarried a man who's birthday is the same as my father's (May 9). So yes, I do have some correlations here but not in regards to moon/ascendant.

Arian Maverick
01-18-2008, 09:33 PM
I don't think that anyone means to ignore you, Astrocurious, but it's difficult to state anything decisively without seeing the charts.

And as for all-pervading question in astrology and in life (i.e. "Does this mean anything?"), my opinion is that where you look for meaning, you will find meaning.

In other words, everything is meaningful if you believe it is meaningful :)

The Moon in astrology tends to have a more intimate relationship with the mother than Mercury, but I believe it is significant in other ways that your Ascendant is in the same sign as your mother's natal Mercury--especially if Mercury is conjunct your Ascendant.

You may be particularly influenced by your mother's thoughts and opinions, especially if your natal Moon has any contact with Mercury or the planet that rules your tenth house--the traditional house associated with the mother.

My father and I have moon in scorpio...

I'm not sure exactly how common this phenomenon is, but I've noticed examples in my family in which a child seems to "inherit" a specific astrological placement from one or both of his parents; my brother and my father both have a Capricorn Moon, for example, and we've both "inherited" yod configurations from our father. If you believe in reincarnation, you may find it helpful to think of it as an expression of family karma, of the types of characteristics and challenges the soul has agreed to undertake in order to have certain experiences and learn certain lessons.

My daughter and I have venus in scorpio...

I believe this is particularly significant because Venus as you know is a feminine planet, and although it has been suggested that women may have a stronger connection to their natal Moon and Venus placements than their natal Sun and Mars placements, Venus does not find its optimal expression in Scorpio--it is the sign of Venus' detriment. My mother has this placement and possibly a Scorpio Moon as well, so this adds a certain intensity to planetary influences that are not generally regarded as intense. Scorpio is a Mars-ruled sign, although it is also a feminine sign; there always seems to be an inner war between the opposing forces in such a placement.

I fear I have wandered farther away from the topic that I had originally intended, but I didn't want to think we were ignoring you...

Arian Maverick

P.S. I'm in the same boat as you, FleetingDasein, and I too resonate more strongly with a Pisces Ascendant than an Aries Ascendant, perhaps because any more Aries in my natal chart would be overkill. If you don't mind, I'd really like for you to join us in the thread The Prenatal Epoch (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7845) because I'm curious if this method will also give you a Pisces Ascendant.

LoneStar
01-18-2008, 11:04 PM
Another great book related to the issues of family karma is the Astrology of Family Dynamics by Erin Sullivan. I read it over the past summer and it really revolutionized my worldview once I started examining my family members charts and comparing them to my own. It was amazing.

Here's the book description copied from amazon.com:

Book Description

Erin Sullivan's latest book is a breakthrough both in astrology and psychology. The Astrology of Family Dynamics makes for gripping reading and shows us that astrology is the only system that demonstrates the complexities of the family as an organic whole, the family's place in the collective, and the role an individual plays in carrying on the ancestral line. Sullivan writes with compassion and accuracy, weaving together various methods of analyzing and working with individuals and their families. She discusses the cardinal, fixed, and mutable signs as they affect families, shows how elements work as a family dynamic, tracks core themes in families using planetary positions and aspects, and explains the 4th, 8th, and 12th houses as our ancestral base.

Essentially what I realized from this book is that we essentially ARE our families, and our families ARE us. We are all just permutations of energy patterns passed through time. Maybe that's old news to some people, but it seemed revolutionary to me.

For example: in my chart, I have an Aquarius Ascendant and my Gemini Moon is in the 5th house conjunct Jupiter in Cancer. My mom is a Gemini Sun with a Moon conjunct Uranus in Cancer. Its almost a parallel. We have an awesome relationship and are clearly soul mates here to work together throughout the lifespan. We've known this for years. We are best friends.

Thats the Moon-Mother-Ascendant connection there.

Then,
I have an Aries Sun/Pluto in Libra opposition on the 2nd/8th axis.
My dad has an Aquarius Mars/Pluto in Leo opposition on the 2/8th axis. His Pluto is directly conjunct my Mars in Leo, square my Sun, oppose my Mars. There was violence between us. And that violence was my fathers inheritance from his father, who inherited it from his father and so on and on into the past.... So this clearly is where my karmic work is centered.

The patterns of family dynamics are truly fascinating, once you sit down and pick through them, and realize the same forces are repeating themselves and changing with every new generation. Looking at the patterns really helped give a mental "order" to the dynamics I felt very overwhelmed by in real life.
Its worth researching.

Liquid Green
01-19-2008, 12:16 AM
geez sidereal, thats spooky!

i have avoided this thread because my mum died years ago and i know nothing about her chart.....but i am bored so i looked at this thread.

My moon is in cap and my sons rising is cap..........he was a natural birth....isnt that bizarre........

the question remains though that all siblings in a family are unlikely to have the same rising sign........not sure though but i doubt it.

Astrocurious
01-19-2008, 03:42 AM
I don't think that anyone means to ignore you, Astrocurious, but it's difficult to state anything decisively without seeing the charts.

And as for all-pervading question in astrology and in life (i.e. "Does this mean anything?"), my opinion is that where you look for meaning, you will find meaning.

In other words, everything is meaningful if you believe it is meaningful :)

The Moon in astrology tends to have a more intimate relationship with the mother than Mercury, but I believe it is significant in other ways that your Ascendant is in the same sign as your mother's natal Mercury--especially if Mercury is conjunct your Ascendant.

You may be particularly influenced by your mother's thoughts and opinions, especially if your natal Moon has any contact with Mercury or the planet that rules your tenth house--the traditional house associated with the mother.



I'm not sure exactly how common this phenomenon is, but I've noticed examples in my family in which a child seems to "inherit" a specific astrological placement from one or both of his parents; my brother and my father both have a Capricorn Moon, for example, and we've both "inherited" yod configurations from our father. If you believe in reincarnation, you may find it helpful to think of it as an expression of family karma, of the types of characteristics and challenges the soul has agreed to undertake in order to have certain experiences and learn certain lessons.



I believe this is particularly significant because Venus as you know is a feminine planet, and although it has been suggested that women may have a stronger connection to their natal Moon and Venus placements than their natal Sun and Mars placements, Venus does not find its optimal expression in Scorpio--it is the sign of Venus' detriment. My mother has this placement and possibly a Scorpio Moon as well, so this adds a certain intensity to planetary influences that are not generally regarded as intense. Scorpio is a Mars-ruled sign, although it is also a feminine sign; there always seems to be an inner war between the opposing forces in such a placement.

I fear I have wandered farther away from the topic that I had originally intended, but I didn't want to think we were ignoring you...

Arian Maverick

P.S. I'm in the same boat as you, FleetingDasein, and I too resonate more strongly with a Pisces Ascendant than an Aries Ascendant, perhaps because any more Aries in my natal chart would be overkill. If you don't mind, I'd really like for you to join us in the thread The Prenatal Epoch (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7845) because I'm curious if this method will also give you a Pisces Ascendant.
Okay...I just thought maybe I wasn't ready for the advanced part of astrology and that's why I wasn't getting responses:p ...Thanks AM.

Arian Maverick
01-20-2008, 01:06 AM
Note: I've moved the posts about signs and physical appearance to the thread Rising Signs and Physical Characteristics (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1068) so this thread doesn't veer too off-topic ;)

Arian Maverick

4leafclovah
02-09-2008, 01:52 AM
Someone told me that the ascendent represents the grandmother and the descendant the grandfather( or the other way around maybe?) My ascendant and moon are in Leo and my grandmother was a Leo.I dont have my mother's chart, but I can definately see some Leo in her.

Astrocurious
02-09-2008, 02:39 AM
Someone told me that the ascendent represents the grandmother and the descendant the grandfather( or the other way around maybe?) My ascendant and moon are in Leo and my grandmother was a Leo.I dont have my mother's chart, but I can definately see some Leo in her. One of my grandmothers is a Libra and the other is a Scorpio...my ascendant is Leo...my grandfather however(one of them) was a Leo, my other grandfather died when my father was 10 so I at the moment, don't know his birthdate.

lillyjgc
02-09-2008, 02:58 AM
Hi- In regard to ascendant/descendent relating to grandparents, the logic to this.
If one read a Natal using derived houses, the mothers mother would be the tenth from the tenth- that is, the seventh (descendent).
The fathers mother would be the tenth from the fourth-the ascendant...
The sign on the cusp of either of those points may bear no relationship to the actual sign of the person- but the rulers of those signs may in fact describe them better...
My mothers mother is represented by my cap asc....my gran was a sun/libra (curiously, HER mother was a sun capricorn)
Cheers Lillyjgc

VenusInAries
02-11-2008, 05:53 AM
My mothers moon is Aries conjunct my venus in aries but my rising is Libra so dunno in some respect it's making an aspect to my rising...

My daughter even though placing her for adoption she has taurus moon and taurus rising conjunct each other and it's conjunct my Sun.

Astrodawn
02-11-2008, 01:21 PM
The link between my mothers moon (Capricorn) is not the same as my Leo ASC.

We do have links with sun conjunct saturn, and jupiter conjunct ASC but thats about it! We dont get on at all, in fact she said to me (and I remember this) that when I was 5 I asked my dad if we could swap her for another mother preferably Anita Harris for those of you that are old enough hahaha!

aquarimoon
02-12-2008, 05:52 AM
This could be true & not necessarily for naural births!

I am an Aries with Gemini Asc & my mom's Moon is in Gemini. I was born Caesarian (had the chord around the neck so had to get out quick!) :38: I am the eldest & my brother was born C section just over 1 year later, he is a Sagittarius with Aries Asc. My mom is an Aries as well with Cap Asc & my dad was (now deceased) a Capricorn (mom's Asc?)

flea
02-12-2008, 09:11 AM
I have only recently found out my fathers birth time.......his moon is conjunct my jupiter and ascendent....wow. I didn't see that. I have some really strong connections with my MC being conjunct his northnode, venus and saturn. My uranus/pluto is in his first.... so I wonder if I was very unsettling for him?? My sun is in his 4th makes sense.... and we both have saturn in 10th and mars in 8th. Then there are strong chiron connections on top of this.

Love to know my mum's birth time!!

Love Light Flea

comrade_moogski
02-12-2008, 06:22 PM
I was born as a caserian, my rising sign is Aries and my mother's moon is Virgo. Hmph, odd. xD.

flea
02-16-2008, 04:58 AM
Been thinking a lot about this and looking at the charts. I suppose I can see now that there are so many links that I didn't see before... sure rising sign shown in the mother's moon sign can be a clue, but not the only one, and sometimes better shown by other aspects and configurations. It makes sense to me that we have really complicated connections and relative differences to our parents. This complexity reflects the amount of information astrology is able to give us. Maybe the subject of parental astro contact could be a much bigger factor. We tend to leave that alone, and look for the aspects with future or present romantic partners instead. Human nature I suppose. But maybe it is really worthwhile to study the parental chart links to enable us to know more about how we each individually operate in close relationship, good and bad!!!!

Love Light Flea

Bobbi
02-16-2008, 05:59 AM
Hi Flea,
Thankyou for expressing that there are many other factors linking the charts of parents & their children. The other week i found a thread here & it was mentioned that either of the parents on a soul level choose to bring the child in because of a particular karmic reason. It was called 'the who invoked me test'. Start from the 9th house and move anti clockwise, which ever Luminary comes up first either the Sun ( Father ) or the Moon ( mother ) is who has willed you into this life on the subconscious level. So i did the test for all of my family's charts and it all made complete sense. For my own kids incarnation, my eldest son was invoked by his father , which makes complete sense, & my youngest son was invoked by me, which also rings true. You will also probably find that the karmic aspects to each of the parents that invoked the child ,that the karma between them is less, than of the other child. its like we brings in our kids in for the other parent to have the lesson. Im not saying that thats the way it is for everyone...some mothers might be responsible for all their children for karmic purposes & Vive versa. My elsdest sons karma is with me not his father who invoked him, my youngest son has karma with his father & not with me...make sense?? So as Im working with the Pre natal Eclipse at the moment, I put the eclipses in the charts & compared them & guess what i came up with. my youngest sons PNE connects by exact degree to my MOON as I invoked him, my eldest sons PNE doesn't connect to my chart by degree at all. My eldest son's PNE connects with his fathers Mars in same sign by exact degree & the youngest PNE also connects with his fathers Moon. So it makes sense that the PNE connects to the chart of the parent or parents. Between us all we all connect through our charts, but not the exact degree like the PNE brings. anyway just another spin on things I guess. Maybe you could try it & get back to me,,would love to hear of other childrens PNE connecting to the parents chart.
Love & Light
Bobbi

sheila
02-17-2008, 12:38 AM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?
No none of my family members match
Their is an old system called Pre-natal epoch
This method is based on the premise that a normal pregnancy takes 280 days or 40 weeks, so it will only work if you are born naturally after a normal length of pregnancy.
To find the date count back 40 weeks or 280 days from the date of birth.
This will take you back more or less to the date of conception.
Look at the position of the Moon on the conception date because this will be located on or around, either the potential ascendant or descendant.
Try it I know several people where it has worked.

flea
02-17-2008, 05:41 AM
ooo, I had a look Boobi,

My mum brought me in and I have so mush stuff that I have worked through with her. The prenatle lunar eclipse is trine her sun. The biggy with her and me is my MC conj her sun and also my venus conj her north node and her chiron conjunct my north node. How much more karmic can you get!!!! I know we have had many many lifes together, and this one is a beautiful healing one, not easy but it is not adding to the karmic bin, it is about emptying it!!

Love Light Flea

Bobbi
02-17-2008, 06:33 AM
Cool Flea, I was so hoping that you would get a match !!!!! Im testing it with some other charts as I go, Im so into working out peoples karmic links. So pleased you are having a healing relationship this lifetime with your mum ...oh so important for us hey, this is great news, thanks for your reply.
love & Light
Bobbi xxxooo

ceres76
02-28-2008, 02:29 PM
Just saw this thread.

As far as fertilization drugs and what is natural conception etc. That's much more a Sun sign concern than an Ascendant concern. For the latter, what makes a real difference is induced labor through Pitocin, or a C section.

But of course on a higher level, we are born when we are supposed to be born.... It's well known that first born births USUALLY - there are always exceptions - are the longest. So are we going to say, "if only I hadn't been a first born, my rising sign would have been such and such."... etc. Obviously that would be silly. The bottom line is, a child is conceived and born when it is supposed to be. Otherwise, it would have happened differently. To some people it may seem simplistic to look at it this way, but it works for me.

And by the way, on that same note, my mother was in labor with me absolutely forever :eek: and she refused intervention - in fact, I was born at home. And as it happens, my Asc. is in my Mother's Moon sign, (and so is my Moon).

In my own case, my labor had to be induced with all my children (it was medically necessary), and so none of them were born when they normally would have been without Pitocin, and none of them have their Asc. in my Moon sign. Though one has also a Leo Moon, and another has his Moon in my sun sign.

It's an interesting theory as is family astrolgoy in general. Looking at the relationships with the parents via the charts, and then look at the chart of the spouse one ends up with -- well, it's real revealing.....

Neat thread.

ceres

sallyd
02-28-2008, 02:44 PM
It's not very likely is it, that a mother of seven or so kids will all have them born with the same ascendant?

It works with me and my mum, me and my son (both me and my son are 'last borns' - maybe that could be the key?) but not with me and my daughter - or my husband and his mum (so bang goes that theory!)

lexia523
03-07-2008, 02:03 AM
hi, i think there is allways a connection with your children, be it astrological or spiritual or both

SUN MOON ASC
MUM Aqu leo sco
1st girl sag sco aqu
2nd girl gem aqu leo

as u can see my moon is in my 2nd daughters rising i think by deg also.
my 1st daughter has her moon as my *** and that is on the same deg (havent provided the deg)
i have a son aries with cancer moon in the gemini rising but with venus/mars aqu conjunction on my sun. i have a stellium in sun venus and mercury in aqu
maybee this is so. they were all born by cesserian section.

JACKASSS
03-22-2008, 02:30 AM
Ours are trine.
I guess you can say my birth went smoothly.

zodiacman2008
04-12-2008, 03:14 AM
I don't believe there is a correlation between someone's Rising sign and a mother's Moon.My Rising sign is different from my mom's moon.However,I wonder if there is a connection between a person's Moon sign and a parent's Moon sign.My mother has her Moon in Capricorn and her father's was in Capricorn.My Moon is in Gemini and my father's was in Gemini.Ironically enough,my father's Sun in Gemini conjuncts my Moon.

redwolf481
06-26-2008, 08:55 AM
I was 6 weeks early....the docters said I was dying and couldn't breath and was surprised I lived...my mother was rushed to the hospital given pain pills and immediatly afterwords the cut her open while she was still awake and gave her a c section.....

I am a gemini(should of been a leo and very much relate to leo..though my part of fortune is there so I am working towards leo)
with libra rising and pluto in scorpio the first house hitting every personal planet..........trines sun, opposite moon and moon is in 8th house...trine mecury exactly and mars by 1 degree......and opposite venus

my moms moon is in taurus

I don't have a rising sign in taurus but my rising signs ruler venus is in taurus and so is my moon and north node

funny this topic was brought up I realised lately that my chart is my parents charts put together almost exactly.....

my dad is a black blues rock musician in la hes a numerologist to survive(with a number of high profile celebrity clients) and knows everyone in hollywood my dad is talented but cannot organize or discipline himself for success and blames his failures on others and his skin also he is bipolar not in a crazy way(well he is crazy in some ways) other than he has terrible mood swings and is grandios I didn't know my dad until last year and still haven't met him in person....hes never payed for his own apartment and is constantly taking care of by others and is stable in no way(Hes 57) he was supported by mom in dad up to his late 20s and then my mom took care of him for 10 years and then my little sisters mom took care of him for like 10 years and then he moved in with a celebrity friend I can't name and then his fashion designer friend like gave him a house to stay in dtown hollywood hes black blues and rock muscian

my dad is an aquarius rising with jupiter in the first
a libra sun
moon in scorpio
dunno his mercury
venus in libra
mars in sagitarius
jupiter in aquarius
saturn in virgo
uranus in cancer sqaure sun
neptune in libra
pluto in leo

my dad has a stellium in the 8th house

my mother is a white woman who is from one of the most prestigious southern old money families in pensacola florida but her parents raised her in la she rebelled when she was younger but now hangs around people like bush all day and conservative republican christian rich old southern money people.....she is ruled by fear and doesn't learn from her mistakes either just like my dad but she feels like shes a victim.....is very skeptical and critical and reminds me of a virgo


my mother is a leo rising with pluto and venus in the first house

sun in cancer
moon in taurus
mercury I don't remmebr
venus in leo
mars I don't remmeber
jupiter in aries
saturn in virgo
uranus in cancer conjunct sun
neptune in libra
pluto in scorpio


my parents met at an astrology class in the late 70;s in la go figure lol


and me

I haad quite a dark childhood It would take too long to talk about it
I am 23 an actor ...I am thinking about moving to london to do stage and the conservatories I wanna get in are over there
I am trying to learn to ground myself and discipline myself and organize myself as it is quite hard for me......

check this out I am a mix of my parents charts

libra rising(10 degrees in the aquarius decan) with pluto in the first house in scorpio
sun in gemini
moon in taurus(mom) in the 8th house(dad)
mercury in cancer(mom)
venus in taurus(mom) in the 8th(dad)
mars in cancer(mom)
jupiter in aqaurius(dad) in the 5th(mom)
saturn in scorpio
uranus in sagitarius sun opposition uranus
neptune in capricorn
pluto in scorpio


funny huh

blo1277
06-29-2008, 01:12 PM
i had 7 children, I have noticed similarities with my daughters.
i am a capricorn with a gemini moon, my 1 daughter is a pisces a capricorn moon with a gemini rising, 1 daughter is a scorpio with capricorn rising, and another is an aries with capricorn rising also. My sons all have leo moon with leo rising except for one who has a libra moon with a virgo rising.

smilingsteph
06-29-2008, 02:31 PM
I was wondering if any of us without the same rising and moon sign of our mothers, if there are relationship problems?

I have/had a strained relationship with my mother, my rising: aquarius, her moon: Leo

Maybe we both want to be noticed in a different way, hers: loud, mine: wierd

aquarius7000
06-29-2008, 03:56 PM
This is a fun question, like one of those light-hearted astrology questions:)

It works like a charm, for mum and myself, and within the family in general, too. Here are some examples:-

Mum's Moon is Leo, and that's my rising.
Mum's Sun is in Leo & I am Leo Rising; again my mum is Aquarius Rising and my Sun is Aquarian.
Dad's Sun is Taurus and my MC (10th house) is in Taurus
Dad's Rising is Sagittarius and my IC (4th house) is in Sag
Dad's Moon is Virgo, and my Sun is in 6 (6=Virgo)

My brother does quite well in this criss-cross combination with mum&dad, too, but I think this much will do for now.

Btw, I started a thread on a somewhat similar topic only broader, a few weeks back, so for those of you, who might want to have a look at the contributions, here's where the thread is:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9397 (http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9397)

:)aquarius7000

libra201
06-29-2008, 05:18 PM
There's no denying links in family charts. I think rather than saying something is as specific as your mothers' moon and your rising sign will be the same...in the 20 years I've done this...what I've found is that there will be links...but not necessarily that one.

My mother is an Aquarian with a Leo Moon. Her mother was a Scorpio.

Now then...I am a "natural" birth...BUT...I am a Virgo with a Moon in Aquarius...an 11th House stellium...and a Scorpio Rising Sign.

My children are all c-section babies...and here's what's interesting about that. Although the times weren't planned for the c-sections...my oldest and youngest have Cancer Rising Signs at 2 degrees and at 4 degrees...my middle child has hers in Taurus.

My paternal great grandfather and grandfather...both had their natal sun located at 4 degrees Cancer and 3 degrees Taurus, respectively.

My paternal grandfather has his moon in Cancer.

My paternal grandmother had a Pisces Rising sign...I have natal Neptune in the first house. Her natal Mars is in a tight opposition to my Scorpio Ascendant at 4 degrees Taurus. There are so many links between their charts, mine and my children...that they're too numerous to list here.

The point here is...families are linked whether the birth is natural or by c section. If you read "Astrology Karma and Transformation" by Stephen Arroyo...you might enjoy learning more about how we all have a distinct purpose and plan when we come into this life...and there are choices made, that include free will...but the obstacles presented are part of a greater plan...so to speak.

We are where we're supposed to be.

u seem like u know ur ****, do u have aim? id like to ask u some stuff about degrees and how that works.

SunConjunctPluto
06-30-2008, 12:40 PM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?

I'm aquarius rising and my mother's moon is also aquarius. I'm not sure what you mean by a natural birth though, as I was a prem, born shortly after a car accident but it was natural apart from that.

CatchaTiger
10-10-2008, 01:15 AM
My mother's moon is in Cancer (she's a Taurus) and my rising sign is Gemini, which is my father's Sun sign. My brother (who has a diff. father) is a Cancer Sun, not sure of his rising sign, but he always looked most like my mother. But my mother's Taurus shows up in my chart with Venus in Taurus, and my father as my ascendant and Chiron in Gemini (which is definitely a signifier of him as causing a big pain in the *** wound, 'nough said). My moon is in Aquarius, which if it has anything to do with my relationship to my mother, means that I always felt slightly detached from her, and viewed her more as an obligatory but friendly roommate, rather than as a parent figure. She even told me once that she felt I was so independent it was like I raised myself, golly gee, thanks ma. I was an unexpected child, (Uranus in the house!-the 9th to be exact), my mother was just 19, but if previous posts are correct it seems it was part of her purpose to have me (first planet counterclockwise from 9th house is moon). I have Mercury in Pisces and we always talked well together as long as I didn't bring up politics, and I feel like Pisces might be somewhere in her chart as well, because my sister is a Pisces, again I can talk to my sister, just not get along with her on anything more than a superficial level.

Mostly speculation because I am the only person I have exact birth data for.

poshslob
10-10-2008, 01:28 AM
My mom's moon is in Cap. My sister has a Cap rising.

flea
10-10-2008, 02:36 AM
Has anyone checked on Dad's moon and child's rising..... I have it and I have heard of others too. My sis has my mothers moon as rsing sign. And my venus is in my mothers sun sign.

AquariusT
10-10-2008, 07:46 AM
I can honestly say that this has proven untrue for 100% of the charts I do and have done.

I do know that your rising sign is the sign the moon was in the day your mother conceived.

virgo18
04-27-2011, 06:18 AM
I am Sagittarius Ascendant and Virgo Sun

My mother's Moon is in Virgo in the 9th





this makes sense?

bakerette
04-27-2011, 08:08 AM
Hmm this is a fun study.
I have two children #1 has no planets near any of mine, in fact the places where I have no planets she has Jupiter, Moon, and Taurus and Saturn. She does have Venus close to my rising sign and her MC is conjunct my mars.
Kid #2, we share sun in sagi, moon in aquarius,and venus in capricorn and her Uranus is very close to my mars. Her rising sign -7th house is within degrees of my 10th-4th.

Lithuel
04-27-2011, 09:03 AM
I think the idea that your mother's Moon is your ascendant is bunk. My mother's given birth 7 times, naturally every time (except the last one which had complications). My Mother's Moon is in Pisces.

1st child: Libra Asc
2nd: Pisces
3rd: Libra
4th: Libra
5th: Cancer
6th: Pisces
7th: Cancer

It's interesting that there are only 3 ascendants between us kids (and because our parents are both Pisces Ascendant, our whole family shares just 3 ascendants). But the idea of any correlation seems absolutely redonkyulous. To me, I mean. Not trying to rain on anybody's parade.

michel12
04-27-2011, 09:25 AM
I think there is some kind of conection but it doesnt have to be AC and moon. ex: my mother is pisces sun my father libra sun-i am pisces sun libra moon, my 2 brothers are both scorpio,looking at my mothers chart she has pluto in the first house. i am a tourus rising 3 of my kids are tourus sun!

quying
04-28-2011, 01:39 AM
I'm a Aries rising and my mother's moon was Cancer,my mother's moon is Cancer
.

Lion o ness
04-28-2011, 04:47 AM
I went back 3 generations

My mom her mom
Pisces Asc.... Cap Moon

My mom to me
Im a Pisces Asc my mom is a Sag moon.

Me to my kids.
My daughter is an Aries Asc my moon is Leo
My son is an Leo Asc my moon is in leo..

So this was only the case from me to my son.

TayTay
04-28-2011, 08:36 AM
heh. Interesting!

My ascendant is Capricorn, and my mum's moon is Capricorn.

I'm positive that this isn't always, or usually, the case with the rest of my siblings, however.

Neptune Rising
04-28-2011, 11:36 AM
My mum's Libra Moon is sextile my ascendant, and its up at my 9th/10th house cusp.:happy:

My Mum's Pisces Sun is square my ascendant.

Biolage
05-05-2011, 06:49 AM
True for me my Rising is Leo and my moms moon is Leo

ansa
05-05-2011, 08:51 AM
Hey all,

I confirm the theory...to a certain extent.

My mom's Sun conjuncts my Moon (which is in the same sign as my Ascendant) and my mom's Moon conjuncts perfectly my brother's Ascendant. Yeah, both conjunctions are less than 1 minute :)

petal
05-07-2011, 10:31 PM
don't know if this is just a really weird coincidence, but my mother I have my mother's sun sign (Cancer) as my ascendant and my daughter has my sun sign (Leo) as her ascendant. We all three have moon in Taurus (4,5 and 6 degrees)! And we suspect that my mother has her mother's sun sign (Aries) as her ascendat...but her time of birth could have been +/- an hour so can't be sure.

But looking at my family's charts, there are diffinitely a lot of exact connections between us.

piercethevale
05-08-2011, 09:19 PM
My Asc is the 18th of Scorpio, my mothers moon [we know the birth time was between 9 and 10 in the AM so based on 9:30] is in the 16th degree of Sag. [and conj Her Saturn in the 15th deg.] which is exactly trine my Venus in the 16th of Aries, in trine aspect to my Pluto in the 21st of Leo, and inconjunct my Desc. and my Sun at the 17th of Taurus.
Luckily her Venus in the 17th of Virgo and Her Merc. in the 10th of Virgo...soothe the inconjunct. She had Sun in the 2nd of Virgo trine my Merc, 29th of Aries, and square my Mars at 4th of Gemini, Her M.C & Pluto conj. my Uranus 18th-16th of Cancer, Her Jupiter in the 11th of Taurus conj. my Sun, Her Nt. Node exactly conj. my Mars in the 5th of Gemini. Her Neptune in the 30th of Leo trine my Merc. and square my Jupiter in the 30th of Taurus.
Her Uranus in the 7th of Aries sextile my Mars. My Venus conj. her Desc. and opp. Her Asc. at the [apprx] 16th of Libra.
...Whew...Happy Mothers Day Mom...the first I've known without you...May you rest in the Light.

Opphiucan
05-19-2011, 07:18 PM
Kind of. My mother's moon is in Virgo and my twin born 4 minutes after me is a virgo, I'm leo cusp.

ethertwist
05-19-2011, 10:44 PM
I do know that your rising sign is the sign the moon was in the day your mother conceived.

This is true for me. I was a week premature and when I look at the Moon's placement nine months before my projected due date, the Moon is in Leo, which is my Asc.

I was adopted and I have some interesting chart connections between my birth mother's chart and also my adopted father's chart. For example, my Moon is exactly conjunct (to the minute!) my birth mother's MC. My (adopted) father's Ascendant is my IC exactly and his Saturn is exactly conjunct my Sun. I don't have my adoptive Mother's birth time, but there's a woman in my life who is very much like a mother to me and her Asc. is in the exact same sign and degree as mine and her Moon is exactly conjunt my MC. It's interesting to see astrological linkages between "families" (blood related or otherwise).

LovelyMissAries
05-20-2011, 03:44 AM
My rising sign is Gemini and my mother's moon is in Libra. HOWEVER... her rising sign is in Taurus and my moon is in Taurus, so I don't know if that makes a difference. PLUS, we are both Aries. I find it hard to converse with her at times, do those placements mean we're too alike (yes, I know "aspects, aspects, ASPECTS!" but with those aside, what do you think?)

SniperBomber328
05-20-2011, 04:18 AM
My mother's moon is in Scorpio, and I am a Scorpio Rising (or Libra if I go back a few minutes)..... although that may seem cool, doubt the rest of my siblings are all Scorpio Risings.

nemesis
05-20-2011, 06:07 AM
My mother has an Aqua Moon and I am a Taurus Rising. My sister doesn't have Aqua Rising either nor my half-brother but he is an Aqua Sun.

We were all natural births.

I really do not have much in common chart-wise to either of my parents.

nuthatch
05-20-2011, 07:29 AM
Well, my mother's moon is Taurus and my rising is Capricorn...they're both Earth signs. But I don't think there is much truth to this. Interesting idea, though.

My North Node is Taurus...

Opphiucan
05-20-2011, 12:21 PM
My moon is in leo my daughter is a leo rising.

I asked my friends about this - it seems to be the last born daughter (or only daughter) that matches, but my sister in law is a virgo moon and her daughters are both virgo ascendants....:)

cappy1277
05-21-2011, 01:18 AM
my mother's moon sign is my rising sign. My father's rising is my moon. I wasn't a natural birth and was delivered via c-section.

nemesis
05-21-2011, 01:42 AM
I asked my friends about this - it seems to be the last born daughter (or only daughter) that matches, but my sister in law is a virgo moon and her daughters are both virgo ascendants....

Not true of my sister who is the youngest daughter =/

But like I mentioned my little brother (although half-brother) does have an Aqua Sun to my Mother's Aqua Moon *shrug* if that counts.

Ixaee
05-21-2011, 01:50 AM
Wow -- a yes vote for me too!

Im a Taurus moon, my (only) son is Taurus rising... this is so eerily true! :cool:

moonwillow
05-21-2011, 04:40 PM
My mother Gemini sun, gemini moon, venus in ariesI do not know her rising sign
my dad, libra sun, aquarius moon, venus in scorpio I do not know his rising sign (they were married for 50 years plus, but fought alot, over insignificant stuff too, especially around christmas time, I do not know why

Me, cancer sun, cap moon and Asc Scorpio
my 1st daughter, virgo sun, cap moon (like me) and asc scorpio (like me)
My 2nd daughter Capricorn sun, sag moon ascendent in pisces

Their dad, Taurus sun, leo moon, Asc in sagitarius

I do not see any co relation between my parents and I, but I see with my daughters.
Pisces ascendants are the cutest, and the best, you just love her instantly everyone says
my first daughter is alot like me, we do mirror each other ( Might be that we both have moon in cap and Asc in scorpio, but we do relate well, and I do understand her so much and we are very attached to one another

As I learn astrology I become more and more intrigued

MysticMelody
05-25-2011, 05:33 PM
Hi my My LO asc is Sag and My moon is in aries.
She born 1 week before due date via induction than c-section.

Astrolady3
05-25-2011, 06:06 PM
My mum has a scorpio moon and my nan has a scorpio rising
my mum has sagg rising i have sag moon
but my mum had me and my brother and sisters naturally and
my oldest sister has libra moon and my youngest sister has aquarius moon (I THINK) and my brother has taurus moon.

i had my daughters naturally and my first has got pisces moon and my youngest has scorpio rising and moon

i have scorpio rising and pisces IC. x

Just remebered my sister died at birth and had to put brought back to life... does that not count as natural?
oh and i was twelve days late...? and my sister had forceps to come out???

Lost_spirit
05-25-2011, 11:47 PM
I don't see any connection here.My rising sign is Leo and my mother's moon is Aries.She has no planets in Leo.But her sun sign is the same as my sister's rising sign,Pisces.I think it was just a coincidence though.

Opphiucan
05-26-2011, 12:00 PM
I can't ignore this - almost every last born daughter I know has the same rising sign as her mother's moon...there isn't enough room to list all of them, but I can always find it. In my situation (I've already mentioned it - I"m a twin, and a Leo rising by 29.55, my sister who is three minutes younger is a virgo, mom virgo moon; my daughter leo rising, me leo moon, my sister in law virgo moon (c section) all daughters virgo rising...) My brother is a Scorpio, Aries Rising, Taurus Moon; my Father is a Gemini, Aries moon, Scorpio rising..

Raquel
06-04-2011, 05:21 PM
my mother had almost all planets in scorpio, but with Pisces Rising... Me and my sister are Pisces Moon...

Claire19
06-05-2011, 03:07 AM
WHere your Moon is often the same as your mother's or other significant female family member's sun sign. This is true in my family.... to a large extent.

Moon sun connections:

I have Taurus Moon and my grandmother was Taurus and my aunt, her daughter, also has her Moon in Taurus. My mother is only just 0 degrees Gemini, right on my 4th cusp......My cousin has Aquarius Moon and an a Aquarian daughter. I could go on and on..

My niece is a Taurus Sun and her daughter has a Taurus Moon. My sister has her Moon in Gemini and our mother was a Gemini.. . Family dynamics are very interesting and worth researching. My other sister has her Moon in Aries and has an Aries son.

Astrology does not run along such neat and predicable lines for everyone.

Claire19
06-05-2011, 03:10 AM
my mother had almost all planets in scorpio, but with Pisces Rising... Me and my sister are Pisces Moon...
Wow! How is that?? Psychic attunement for sure and very emotional.

Claire19
06-05-2011, 03:14 AM
I can't ignore this - almost every last born daughter I know has the same rising sign as her mother's moon...there isn't enough room to list all of them, but I can always find it. In my situation (I've already mentioned it - I"m a twin, and a Leo rising by 29.55, my sister who is three minutes younger is a virgo, mom virgo moon; my daughter leo rising, me leo moon, my sister in law virgo moon (c section) all daughters virgo rising...) My brother is a Scorpio, Aries Rising, Taurus Moon; my Father is a Gemini, Aries moon, Scorpio rising..


Just the rising and sun sign connection here:
My sister is a Gemini and her son is Gemini rising. I am a Leo with my mother having Leo rising. My father is a Capricorn and my other sister had Capricorn rising.

Aquachime
06-05-2011, 07:01 AM
My Mum is Gemini Sun, Libra Moon & Taurus Asc.
My Dad is Pisces Sun, Cap Moon & Cancer Asc

2 daughters 1) Pisces Sun, Sag Moon & Sag/Scorp Asc
2) Cancer Sun, Scorp Moon & Aqu Asc

No significant female relos of Scorp or Sag persuasion. BUT both my grandfathers were Sag.
So unfortunately no pattern in this family re maternal Lunar placements.

Rushwing
06-05-2011, 09:42 AM
Interesting thinking in terms of karma

That children are the unspoken dreams/desires of our parents

What feelings they have, they pass on to the children and the feelings become personalities.

Crystallization of the soul.. . .

I don't know my mom's moon sign, but I do know that being the first born, I received all her early self-impressions before having kids changes everything. My mom was diabetic when she had me : ( and I am such a sugar addict.

Veronica
06-05-2011, 02:04 PM
Interesting Thread !

Well Iam cancer moon and Cancer Rising, and my Mother is Aquarius sun/ Scorpio Rising/ Moon in Gemini. As far as the moon placement goes, I don't think we have similar placements.. but my Venus is in Gemini and also my dads Sun sign is Gemini. My daughter is a Taurean Moon.. hmmm her moon falls natally on her fourth house intercepted Aries/Taurus. My Sun falls on her 4th house. Also we both have 28 degree suns... also her Sun, Mercury,Pluto, Jupiter conjuct my Neptune and oppose my NN... conjucting my SN... ( Its sort of interesting how often NN/SN aspects are seen commonly in Family synastry than in romantic synastry... ).

CosmicBlyss
08-01-2011, 05:58 AM
There's no denying links in family charts. I think rather than saying something is as specific as your mothers' moon and your rising sign will be the same...in the 20 years I've done this...what I've found is that there will be links...but not necessarily that one.

My mother is an Aquarian with a Leo Moon. Her mother was a Scorpio.

Now then...I am a "natural" birth...BUT...I am a Virgo with a Moon in Aquarius...an 11th House stellium...and a Scorpio Rising Sign.

My children are all c-section babies...and here's what's interesting about that. Although the times weren't planned for the c-sections...my oldest and youngest have Cancer Rising Signs at 2 degrees and at 4 degrees...my middle child has hers in Taurus.

My paternal great grandfather and grandfather...both had their natal sun located at 4 degrees Cancer and 3 degrees Taurus, respectively.

My paternal grandfather has his moon in Cancer.

My paternal grandmother had a Pisces Rising sign...I have natal Neptune in the first house. Her natal Mars is in a tight opposition to my Scorpio Ascendant at 4 degrees Taurus. There are so many links between their charts, mine and my children...that they're too numerous to list here.

The point here is...families are linked whether the birth is natural or by c section. If you read "Astrology Karma and Transformation" by Stephen Arroyo...you might enjoy learning more about how we all have a distinct purpose and plan when we come into this life...and there are choices made, that include free will...but the obstacles presented are part of a greater plan...so to speak.

We are where we're supposed to be.

This thread is TOTALLY fascinating. :surprised:
Having the particular combination of tough Sun/1st house aspects I do and having gone through the slew of primarily unpleasant family experiences that I have..it really does blow my mind (yet again..) how completely accurate astrology is and how much of a blueprint of YOU a natal chart truly is.

Whatever the reasoning behind the suggested correlation between rising sign and moon sign, this completely applies in my case as my Ascendant is the same as both my parent's moons in Sag (which are both in my 1st house..my dad's Moon is conjunct my Neptune in the 1st (along with his Juno), which is opposite her Ascendant).

I'm a Pisces with a Gemini Descendant and my mother is a Pisces with a Sag Descendant. Our Suns are conjunct with her Sun & Mercury in my 4th, but her Sun is also opposite my Saturn/MC. My Saturn is in her 4th, my Neptune and Part of Fortune are in her 7th. My father was a Gemini with an Aries Descendant (she has Mercury & Jupiter in Aries). My moon is in his 4th, my Venus & Chiron in his 7th. His Sun is in my 7th, his NN is opp my Ascendant and his Vertex is conj my Descendant.

My Venus, Chiron & Jupiter are opp her Mars, my Venus is opp his Uranus and conj both his Mars & Venus, my Chiron is opp his Jupiter & Chiron, his Jupiter is conj my Uranus, and my Neptune is opp his Uranus. My Mercury is conj her Venus and opp his Neptune. My Moon is widely conj her MC and opp her Pluto, which is conj my Neptune, and opp his Pluto.

Her North Node & Part of Fortune are opp my North Node, Mars, Jupiter & MC, which are conj her IC. My Chiron is opp her Vertex. My Part of Fortune is opp her Uranus and his Mercury. My Vertex is opp his Uranus, and my Pluto is opposite his Part of Fortune and conj his Ascendant.

It just rudely slapped me in the face that there is more Karma stuffed in there than you can shake a stick at.. :surprised:

I unfortunately don't have birthtimes (yet :unsure:), but my father's mother is a Gemini with a Scorpio Moon. Her Moon is opposite my Venus, her Venus and Pluto are conjunct my Juno & Vertex (that makes SO much sense!!), her Mars is conj my Moon and our North Nodes are conjunct. Her Jupiter & Part of Fortune are conj my Neptune. Her Uranus is conj my Sun and her Mercury is conj my Descendant.

My grandmother's Sun was conj my father's Sun & Uranus, her Mercury exactly conj his North Node and conj his Vertex, his Mercury conj her Pluto, and her Venus opp his Juno. Her Moon was in his 1st, conj his Jupiter and opp his Mars & Venus, and her Saturn was exactly conj his Ascendant.

My grandfather was an Aries with a Sag moon, his Sun conj my dad's Descendant & Part of Fortune, opp his Asc and his Moon conj his Juno and opp his Uranus. His Mars & Juno were in my dad's 1st, conj his Chiron. His Neptune & Jupiter were conj my dad's Saturn & Pluto, and his Pluto conjunct his Mercury.

His Sun was opp my Pluto, his Moon conj my Neptune, his Mercury exactly conj my Sun/IC & opp Saturn/MC. His Venus was conj my Sun, his Mars, Juno & NN opp my Venus & Chiron. His Jupiter & Neptune opp my Moon, his Saturn conj my Jupiter, Mars & NN and opp my Mercury, and his Pluto was conj my Vertex and exactly opp my Part of Fortune.

The astrology of family dynamics is seriously crazy stuff! :andy:

Ruka_5
08-01-2011, 09:30 AM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?


Not quite.

My mom's moon was in Gemini, I have nothing in the sign, and if I'm remembering things right, neither do my younger brother and sister.

My mom's sun was in Aquarius though and I inherited it as my ascendant. My sister inherited it as her moon sign.

Inconjunct
08-01-2011, 11:37 AM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?

There's more to relational astrology than that. My Mum's moon sign was Taurus, my rising sign is Pisces. However, we shared a Sun sign (Taurus) and a Venus/Jupiter conjunction

Ruka_5
08-01-2011, 11:41 AM
There's more to relational astrology than that. My Mum's moon sign was Taurus, my rising sign is Pisces. However, we shared a Sun sign (Taurus) and a Venus/Jupiter conjunction

Exactly. They have the general idea right, though which is that astrological signs, aspects and 'traits' are passed down just like physical genes are.

DiDi
08-01-2011, 11:44 AM
Ruka5
i just found this interesting as its the same for me to my 2 daughters


My mom's sun was in Aquarius though and I inherited it as my ascendant. My sister inherited it as her moon sign


my mums sun was also aqu........... think we like to keep it in the families lol


This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?

great topic debate
i had all c section births so didnt work for my kids and i was c section baby so didnt work for me either
I know of a few natural births from friends and cant see this placement at all.

Its probably one of those common things but not nessessarily very common.
interesting thou
like ive been keeping an eye on the first born childs sun happens to be the fathers moon.
its happened so many times in and around my family and friends but of course not fullproof.
I guess its one of those family things

Prisma
08-01-2011, 04:43 PM
... I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?


Let's see then...:sideways::confused:

My mom's a Libra, Taurus asc., Venus in Scorpio, 5th house Virgo, part of luck & Uranus in Cancer and Moon in Leo.

I am A Cancer, Asc. Virgo, Moon in Aquarius.
Well, my birth was induced at 35 weeks, so maybe that is one of the reasons why it does not apply to me. My Moon is in Aquarius, Mom's is a Leo. Instead of a Moon there I have Venus in my chart. I think also my mother's Uranus & part of fortune in Cancer coincide with my Sun & Mercury.

The sister closer to me in birth was premature also at 8 months (& was at first mistakenly thought dead because of a drug errouneusly given to my mother by the emergency dr. at the hospital- thank God, baby sneezed and then cry in the table she had been left). Anyway, like me, she inherited the venus in leo instead of a moon there. This sister's is a Virgo, with moon in Pisces and Gemini asc.

The next sibling, a boy, was born full term. He is a double Pisces(sun & Asc.) with Moon in Taurus. So my brother's Moon sign is = to my mother's rising sign. Also her Jupiter & his moon are in conjuction.

The last sibling, a girl, Is a Cancer, Sag. Asc, moon in Aqua. She was born full term. Neither their risings nor her moon or Asc coincide. Nonetheless, my sister's sun & Venus coincide with my mom's part of luck & Uranus in Cancer.


...Its probably one of those common things but not nessessarily very common.
interesting thou

Agree
...like ive been keeping an eye on the first born childs sun happens to be the fathers moon.
its happened so many times in and around my family and friends but of course not fullproof.
I guess its one of those family things

My first born was premature. Here both of my Asc & my husband got combined. He is a Virgo, Libra Asc., Moon in Piscis, Venus in Virgo. My husband is a Sag., Moon & Asc. in Libra. My Aqua Moon coincides with my first born's Neptune.

Finally, not to leave my daughter out of the discussion, She is an Aries, double Cancer (Moon, Asc.) She was born almost full term (~37 weeks). I also have an Aries Mars.

So, the rising sign and Moons here only coincide between my brother & my mother (but reversed -child moon with mom's Asc.). On the others examples described above between mothers & children it does not, although there are other patterns, etc.

Claire19
08-02-2011, 02:21 AM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?
Very general and no matter the circumstances of the birth, the planets overhead at the time that the baby emerges is what sets in train the life that child is to lead. Nothing in astrology is that neat and it would be boring if it was....There is no set formula and everyone is different.

I find that often the Sun sign and ascendant are the same with family members, certainly in my family. . Sometimes the Moon sign of the child is the mother's Sun sign. This is more likely from what I have observed. The ascendant sign can indicate someone of that sign being present at your birth and significant in the early days of your life, not necessarily always just the mother..

DiDi
08-02-2011, 03:06 AM
Very general and no matter the circumstances of the birth, the planets overhead at the time that the baby emerges is what sets in train the life that child is to lead. Nothing in astrology is that neat and it would be boring if it was....There is no set formula and everyone is different.

absolutley


I find that often the Sun sign and ascendant are the same with family members, certainly in my family. . Sometimes the Moon sign of the child is the mother's Sun sign. This is more likely from what I have observed. The ascendant sign can indicate someone of that sign being present at your birth and significant in the early days of your life, not necessarily always just the mother..

Ive noticed the sun to asc signs with family members very much so also.
There are quite a few patterns around
For me I started looking at what patterns were around relating to the father and seeing a pattern in my family i started noticeing it with my frieands and accantences that were having a similar pattern.

its like i was saying thou not ullproof but its common for what i know.

some of them are my daughter has a child who is cancer with aries moon
her partner has a cancer moon
my son has a daughter now she is a cancer sun with scorp moon
he has cancer moon
his partner is having another child soon and will be due in the sign of scorpio which is her moon.

we have an amasing amount of friends and family all scorpio moons, we dont know a lot of people to be honest but 90% of them all scorpio moon

Ive said this around the forum and no one really has anything to say about it but again id like to mention here in case someone has something similar

my g/daugher has all the houses and degrees I do
my asc 18 scorp
her asc 18 scorp
my ic 1 aqu
her ic 1 aqu

and so it goes
she has different signs than me but i thought it was a little karmic as its a bit rare to me to see this.

Echo
08-02-2011, 11:33 PM
Me: Gemini Asc, Aquarius Sun and Scorpio Moon

Oldest son: Scorpio Asc, Leo Sun and Aquarius Moon

Middle son: Libra Asc, Gemini Sun, Aquarius Moon

My daughter: Gemini Asc, Aries Sun, Leo Moon

Note: My poor husband is left out with his Virgo sun, Cancer asc smd cancer moon lol. Its like hes not even related to us:tongue:

I find it eery how our signs are all the same except Libra and Aries. My daughter has both her brothers sun placed in her asc and moon, both my boys have my sun sign as their moon ect. Its like we were truly meant for eachother! lol

Someone mentioned earlier that your mothers mental state was expressed through your ascendant and I would agree with that completely. My oldest was born during a violent and sad time. My middle son was born at the most balanced and happiest time of my life and my daughter was born during a time that I couldnt make up my mind on alot of things. Very interesting indeed!

Someone also said that the child you are closest with will typically share the same ascendant. My mothers, mine and my daughters asc are all in Gemini. I love my boys to bits but Im definatly closest to my daughter, so I would say this might be true.

DiDi
08-03-2011, 01:53 AM
Someone also said that the child you are closest with will typically share the same ascendant. My mothers, mine and my daughters asc are all in Gemini. I love my boys to bits but Im definatly closest to my daughter, so I would say this might be true.


I cant say in my experiance I actually know anyone in the same family with same asc,s

Im extreamly close to all my kids and love them the same but treat them differently accordinly to there personalities.

my youngest i would say im the closest to as shes a gemini and needs to have me as her twin. she doesnt leave my side much (shes 19) lol
anyway she had the aqu moon to my sun this is why we are close.

she is virgo asc and i have it in my mars and stellium in the 11th house this could be the only reason i would relate it to her ascendant.
otherwise the asc is just the mask we wear in front of people we dont know, to the outside world... we dont protray that on to our family we are close with.

Ill back that up with my oldest daughter who has the aqu asc to my sun, to the outside world she is very aqu, she has many friends on her facebook all of are mainly friends of friends who she keeps at a distance
us aqu like to have many many acquaintances... she is friendly and popular to the outside world.. but prefers to be home and have just a handfull of friends.
now her asc in aqu doesnt have much of a effect to my aqu sun it means 2 different things.
she does have a scorpio moon to my scorpio asc but it doesnt work well with my aqu/leo sun/moon... id say we were the least clostest because of the way in which we think and act. ( i love her to bits thou ) but we dont click well when communicating.

check out the houses you have that have there plannets and you wil find more coinsidences. and its fun.

Seagoatgal
08-03-2011, 05:55 PM
Lol, I've noticed that too with Aries women! My grandma is an Aries, 4'11 and still feisty and it's the same deal with my best friend's mom.

Kcscribble20
08-07-2011, 10:47 PM
I'm an aquarius rising and my father is an aquarius
my mother is an aries and I have a moon in aries......

melina
08-07-2011, 10:57 PM
Interesting thread!

My son's was born in Libra, and that is my ascendant.

His ascendant is aries, which is my 7th house. :D

We both have Mars in the 7th house and Venus in the 8th house.

CosmicLove
08-07-2011, 11:07 PM
While I know now that my rising son is in fact not my mother's moon (we actually both have the same moon, Sagittarius), I did find something very interesting upon looking at both my parents' inner planets. My mom, my dad, and I all have our Sun signs reinforced by our Mercuries.

zona967
08-12-2011, 07:09 PM
It does not apply to me.

AriScoPis87
08-15-2011, 11:07 PM
Very cool thread. Read every post and found some interesting stuff.

I didn't inherit anything from my mother astrologically.

I did however gained from my father.

My father is a Scorpio, Cancer Moon. I am an Aries (Sagittarius Decan), Scorpio Moon (Cancer Decan), Pisces Rising (Scorpio Decan).

My mother is a Capricorn, Aquarius Moon.

I don't know their birth times, but from my years of reading and knowing my parents my father fits the Sagittarius Rising description very well.

My mother on the other hand fits the Cancer Rising description well, almost to a "T".

Raquel
08-16-2011, 09:27 AM
My father is a Leo sun, Rising in Virgo, Moon in Libra, mars and jupiter in Cancer.
My mother was Scorpio Sun, Rising in Pisces(from his grandparent's Sun), Scorpio Moon, Mars in Libra
My mother's father Sun in Libra, Scorpio Rising, Sag moon
My mother's mother Sun in Cancer, Libra rising, Moon in geminis
My mother's brother Sun in Libra, Leo rising, aries moon sq. mercury and uranus
My sister is Capricorn Sun, Geminis Rising and Pisces moon...

I have... Libra/mercury/mars Libra, Leo Rising, Pisces moon sq.uranus/opp.mercury/ Venus in Sag, Jupiter in Cancer

AriScoPis87
08-20-2011, 10:13 PM
Update: So I finally found out my mother's time of birth and she is a Sagittarius Rising. So this means it sits on my Sun in Aries and conjuncts widely to my Sagittarius Decan Sun.

hypnotiqu3
08-22-2011, 01:33 PM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?

Not true for me. My rising is Gemini. Her Moon is Pisces. =/

Choe
09-10-2011, 01:28 AM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?

For me it's true!

Rebel Uranian
09-10-2011, 02:14 AM
My rising is Aquarius. My mom's moon is Aries. My birthchart would suck if my rising was Aries. I am so glad I was not born naturally. I really wish my mom's moon was not Aries. Aries can be absolutely awesome, but I've never seen it awesome as a Moon sign and have heard quite a few complaints from other people as well. I think there was a whole thread about it. It can be awesome as a rising sign, but not with the positions and aspects I have in particular.

Alice McDermott
09-13-2011, 04:06 AM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?

This is true to a degree, but not quite as simple as that.

What usually happens is that in a natural birth the child's Moon usually is the same as the Ascendant -Descendant or the Duad of the Ascendant or Descendant in the mother's chart and/or in the father's chart - or vice versa.

So, in my family, two of my sons have the Moon in Libra, which is the same as my Ascendant duad; one son has the Moon in Aries, which is the same as my Descendant duad; my daughter has the Moon in Aquarius, which is the same as her father's Ascendant duad and her Moon duad is the same as her father's Ascendant.

The duad of my Moon is the same as my mother's Ascendant and her natal Moon is on my Descendant.

The duad of one of my son's Ascendant is the same as his father's Moon.

The duad of my brother's Moon is the same as his father's Ascendant .. and so on.

If you want to check this out you can download a Duad table and a Duad degree calculator here: http://aliceportman.com/?p=606

Of course it is unlikely that any of this will happen if the birth is through cesarean, induction or even forceps as it is highly likely these will be out of sync. with the family dynamic.

Alice

Arianruler
09-13-2011, 11:23 AM
whoa.... this is interesting!

My rising sign is - virgo
and i just checked my mum's moon sign which is also - VIrgo!

does this hold true for majority of people in general?

moonwillow
09-13-2011, 08:49 PM
This is pretty interesting, unfortunately,not in my case:

Mine:
Cancer sun (3rd decan) (Pisces)
capricorn moon (1st decan)
Asc: Scorpio 2 decan (Pisces)

My Mother: (I do not know the dawds or duads or decan I could check)
Gemini Sun
Gemini Moon
Asc: Capricorn

Daughter 1
Virgo sun 1st decan
Cap moon (like me) but 2nd decan
Asc Scorpio (Like me) 1st decan

Daughter 2
Capricorn Sun (2nd decan)
Sagittarius moon (1st decan)
Asc: Pisces (1st decan)

Their dad
Taurus Sun (2nd decan)
Leo Moon (2nd decan)
Asc Sagittarius (Ist decan)

Moonwillow

m8pisces
11-17-2012, 04:18 AM
This is interesting, my mom is aquarius sun with pisces moon. I don't know my exact birth time but my mom said she's infused with anesthetic and was transfered to the operating room around 3am since she can't give birth naturally, i might have been born after 3am.
I assume i have aquarius rising because the description fits me well. Only when i was born around 6am i could get a pisces rising, it's impossible!
Just think of it, if the labor went naturally, i would have a capricorn rising, that totally has no connection with my mother moon anyway.

chei star
11-17-2012, 11:28 AM
Mum:
Rising sign unknown, but we think Cancer
Sun in Taurus
Moon in Taurus
Mercury in Taurus
Venus in Cancer
Mars in Libra


Dad:
Rising sign unknown, but we think Sagittarius
Sun in Sagittarius
Moon in Gemini
Mercury in Sagittarius
Venus in Sagittarius
Mars in Sagittarius

Me:
Aries rising
Sun in Scorpio
Moon in Capricorn
Mercury in Scorpio
Venus in Sagittarius
Mars in Scorpio

My sister:
Virgo Rising
Sun in Libra
Moon in Sagittarius
Mercury in Virgo
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Sagittarius

Hmm.. Are we both adopted?! Although there is a common theme of stelliums.. My sis has 3 planets in Scorp and 3 in Sagittarius and you can see the rest. As for me I only have one planet in Sag and nothing in Taurus.. both my mum and dad have lots of those signs in their charts.

As for Aries rising indicating a violent birth... There was nothing violent about my birth, was a quick labour and completely natural.

Alice McDermott
11-18-2012, 01:17 AM
Mum:
Rising sign unknown, but we think Cancer
Sun in Taurus
Moon in Taurus
Mercury in Taurus
Venus in Cancer
Mars in Libra


Dad:
Rising sign unknown, but we think Sagittarius
Sun in Sagittarius
Moon in Gemini
Mercury in Sagittarius
Venus in Sagittarius
Mars in Sagittarius

Me:
Aries rising
Sun in Scorpio
Moon in Capricorn
Mercury in Scorpio
Venus in Sagittarius
Mars in Scorpio

My sister:
Virgo Rising
Sun in Libra
Moon in Sagittarius
Mercury in Virgo
Venus in Scorpio
Mars in Sagittarius

Hmm.. Are we both adopted?! Although there is a common theme of stelliums.. My sis has 3 planets in Scorp and 3 in Sagittarius and you can see the rest. As for me I only have one planet in Sag and nothing in Taurus.. both my mum and dad have lots of those signs in their charts.

As for Aries rising indicating a violent birth... There was nothing violent about my birth, was a quick labour and completely natural.

If your mother has Cancer rising, then you have your Moon on her Descendant.

If your father has Sagittarius rising, then your sister has her Moon on his Ascendant.

Both of these are classic contacts between a parent and a child if the child was born naturally - and that includes not being induced.

To repeat, in a natural birth the Moon of the child will normally trigger the Ascendant or Descendant or the duad of the Ascendant or Descendant of one parent.

Alice

chei star
11-18-2012, 04:57 AM
If your mother has Cancer rising, then you have your Moon on her Descendant.

If your father has Sagittarius rising, then your sister has her Moon on his Ascendant.

Both of these are classic contacts between a parent and a child if the child was born naturally - and that includes not being induced.

To repeat, in a natural birth the Moon of the child will normally trigger the Ascendant or Descendant or the duad of the Ascendant or Descendant of one parent.

Alice

Thank you.. I have approximated those rising signs myself.. I do think they are right.

Melaike
11-18-2012, 05:32 AM
My mother's rising sign is my Moon sign.I have Moon in Sag trine Jupiter.

Zuri
11-18-2012, 01:24 PM
I checked. My late mother had a Capricorn Moon, and I am indeed Capricorn Rising. However, My younger sister is Virgo Rising.

astro11
11-18-2012, 02:53 PM
I'm Leo rising and my mother has a Scorpio Moon.

I have noticed this rather curious Moon-Saturn-Capricorn flavoured link on the maternal side: I have Moon conjunct Saturn in Sagittarius, my mother has Moon conjunct Saturn in Scorpio, my mom's younger sister has Moon in Cancer opposite Saturn in Capricorn, my mom's older sister has Moon in Capricorn and my late grandmother had Moon in Capricorn. I would say this theme of reservation in verbally expressing affection and being hesitant to express honest emotions within the family has been dominant. We always take care of each other regardless of how we feel at any time, a sense of duty and obligation is always present.

With my mom and grandmother especially, I always felt loved and cared for, actions speak much louder than words and they have always supported me through their actions. In private we may disagree but in public we would never let each other down.

CaprLibraSquared
11-18-2012, 05:33 PM
Actually I was in an astrology class recently where every woman in the class their moon sign was their mother's sun sign. This is true. My moon is AQ and my mom's sun is AQ.
I was two weeks late. I have Cap rising and my mom's moon is Virgo

What is wild my brother's moon is my dad's Sun! Leo!

summer92
11-18-2012, 07:39 PM
Actually I was in an astrology class recently where every woman in the class their moon sign was their mother's sun sign. This is true. My moon is AQ and my mom's sun is AQ.
I was two weeks late. I have Cap rising and my mom's moon is Virgo

What is wild my brother's moon is my dad's Sun! Leo!

I have the same combination :) actually my sun = her moon,and my moon = her sun! x

CaprLibraSquared
11-18-2012, 07:50 PM
I take it back. I was wrong my brother has the same moon as my mom. It is his rising that is my dad's sun. I always forget he is Leo rising. I'm still searching for the Leo qualities in him. I really don't see it. :smile: My mom has moon in Virgo. I have Sun in Libra, but I have a full 8th house that is all Virgo.

Melaike
11-19-2012, 11:42 AM
I'm Leo rising and my mother has a Scorpio Moon.

I have noticed this rather curious Moon-Saturn-Capricorn flavoured link on the maternal side: I have Moon conjunct Saturn in Sagittarius, my mother has Moon conjunct Saturn in Scorpio, my mom's younger sister has Moon in Cancer opposite Saturn in Capricorn, my mom's older sister has Moon in Capricorn and my late grandmother had Moon in Capricorn.

There's a similar pattern on my father's maternal side.I don't know anything about my grandmother's birthchart but all of her children and her daughters' children has either Scorpio Moons,or Moon-Pluto aspects.

feelthef
11-19-2012, 01:57 PM
My mother`s Sun exactly conj my Moon/Mars/NN stellium in Leo! I`ve observed recently that her Sun conj my Leo moon and was really fascinated about it, that can not be coincidence.
Probably you have to checked more personal planets/ points

1magu1t1on_13
11-19-2012, 08:15 PM
i'm a scorpio rising with pluto conjunct in the 1st
my mom is a virgo rising with pluto conjunct in the 12th

i'm a cancer moon
she's a gemini moon

my part of fortune is her pluto
her part of fortune is my imum coeli

i'm an aries
she's a saggitarius

in relation to her gemini moon, i at least have my venus in gemini

junoisuppose
11-19-2012, 09:21 PM
My birth was not natural - induced a week early, as my mother likes to say because the consultant was going on holiday, c-section and a lot of trauma.
My rising sign is virgo, but in the decan of taurus, and my mother's moon is taurus in the decan of virgo.
My sun is cancer and her rising sign is cancer.
My sun is on her pluto and her ascendant, my pluto is on her sun.

Alice McDermott
11-19-2012, 09:22 PM
I checked. My late mother had a Capricorn Moon, and I am indeed Capricorn Rising. However, My younger sister is Virgo Rising.

It is usually the other way around Zuri, your Moon would activate your mother's Ascendant or Descendant or either of these duads - or your father's. Though a small percentage of people have the same set-up as you.

Do you know your parent's time of birth so you can check out whether this is the case with you and your siblings?

If you don't know much about duads I have explained them on my site here: http://aliceportman.com/category/the-duad-system/ and have a duad table you can upload in this article: http://aliceportman.com/calculating-duad-and-dwad-charts/

Remember, this usually on occurs with natural births. If there has been medical assistance or a difficult birth with delays, then it usually doesn't happen.

Alice

serafin5
11-19-2012, 10:19 PM
Ok so let me see if this works for me:

My Mom was born on the cusp of Libra/Scorpio, but her Sun fell in Libra, Libra Asc, Capricorn Moon.

Dad was a Leo Sun with a Saggi Moon, Asc unknown.

I was born on Aquarius/Pisces cusp but Sun falls in Pisces, Moon in Taurus and a Scorpio Asc. I was due January 27th but didnt come till the 19th of Feb and then not until almost midnight!! I was born naturally but because of my size (10lbs & 6oz!!!) my poor Mom passed out on the table after pushing me put. She had excruciating back labor and I was born with some kind of breathing deformity where if they let me cry I could choke to death.

My Son is a Sun Sign Capricorn and him and I share the same Asc., Moon, Mercury. Both of our Venus are in Fire Signs!!! He was born natural too.

I guess that 1 out of 2. ;)

Serafin5

fullmoonlibra
11-19-2012, 11:08 PM
My rising is Leo, my mother is Aries Moon (and Mars, Sun in Aries). My NN is Aries conjunct Sun in Taurus and Mother's NN is Taurus.

Bas Astro Service
11-19-2012, 11:31 PM
My Moon conjunct my mother her Ascendant. 0 degrees orb.

JenniferThiesing
11-20-2012, 01:50 AM
OOh yeah, there's all kinds of connections
Me : Asc In Scorpio
Sun in sagittarius
Moon, Uranus, Neptune, Venus in Capricorn
Mercury in scorpio
Pluto in scorpio
Jupiter in libra
Midheaven Virgo
Mars in cancer
saturn aquarius

Mom: Asc in Cancer
Sun, Venus and Saturn in virgo
Moon in scorpio
Mercury & Jupiter in leo
Neptune in sagittarius
Pluto in libra


Step dad: Asc & Neptune in Sagittarius
Sun, Venus, and Saturn in leo
Moon and Uranus in scorpio
Mercury and Mars in Virgo
Jupiter in taurus
Pluto in Libra

zoumizzouzou
11-21-2012, 04:09 AM
When it comes to me, I for sure don't know my mother's birth time, but based on what I was told, her ASC is 1 degree Aquarius... Pretty darn close to my Moon being 25 degrees Capricorn. Kinda odd if she really is a Cappy ASC... Her Moon is Saggitarius.

Claire19
11-21-2012, 05:12 AM
This is pretty neat if it is true. I recently had an astrologer friend of mine, Margie H. tell me that as long as your birth was natural your rising sign should be the same as your mother's moon sign. Then I realized, hey, my mother's moon is in Aquarius and my rising sign is Aquarius! What do ya all think about that?

Does that ring true for anyone else?
I find more that it is the Sun and the rising sign interwoven. True that often our Moon sign is our mother's sun sign.
Not always of course. The ascendant will show who is present at birth and in early childhood and naturally a parent may figure.
What you say can happen but it is not so common as to be a pattern.

In my family my sister has my father's Sun sign as ascendant, I have my mother's ascendant as my rising sign. My father has his father's Sun as his rising sign I am pretty sure. Our rising sign is often our partner's sun sign.

Assyrian_Libra
11-24-2012, 08:28 PM
Hmmm... well I can say I am rising leo and my mother is a leo sun... my sister is moon in gemini and I am moon in gemini... hmmmm

LeoCassandra
11-24-2012, 08:49 PM
My rising is Libra my mother moon is aquarius, conjunct my saturn....sometimes(most of the time:P) i feel more mature, less naive then she is.Her moon is opposite my sun exact:bandit:
I forgot to add my mother sun in virgo-my venus in virgo but without aspect. My father moon in virgo my mars in virgo- with aspect:)

Optimistic Approach
11-30-2012, 08:24 PM
My moon is conj my mother's ASC while her moon opposes mine. My dad and older brother's ASC is opposite my moon. Also, my younger brother's moon is square my ASC - conj my IC.

Oh, my mother's sun is conj my ASC too.

Interesting. :)

appleberry
12-02-2012, 12:40 AM
Sorry, moms moon is Virgo and my rising is Libra.
()placidus)
However, her sun is in Libra conjunct my ascendant and my sun in h6.

And... It does work backwards for me since my moon is aries and her rising is aries.

RisingSag
12-02-2012, 12:50 AM
My Rising's Sag, and my Mom's moon is very late Aquarius. However, Her Sun is conjunct my Rising, and my child's Pluto is also conjunct my Rising, at 0*!
My sister, and I's moons, happen to be conjunct my mother's moon. My older sister, moreso, and myself at a very wide orb.

appleberry
12-02-2012, 01:27 AM
Well... This sun conjunct ascendant is interesting cuz when you don't know someone's birthtime, perhaps finding out their mothers birthdate will help?

Lulu-B
05-03-2013, 04:14 PM
I'm Leo rising and my mother has a Scorpio Moon.

I have noticed this rather curious Moon-Saturn-Capricorn flavoured link on the maternal side: I have Moon conjunct Saturn in Sagittarius, my mother has Moon conjunct Saturn in Scorpio, my mom's younger sister has Moon in Cancer opposite Saturn in Capricorn, my mom's older sister has Moon in Capricorn and my late grandmother had Moon in Capricorn. I would say this theme of reservation in verbally expressing affection and being hesitant to express honest emotions within the family has been dominant. We always take care of each other regardless of how we feel at any time, a sense of duty and obligation is always present.

With my mom and grandmother especially, I always felt loved and cared for, actions speak much louder than words and they have always supported me through their actions. In private we may disagree but in public we would never let each other down.

My mother and brother and I have Moon hard Pluto aspects.

My father has exact Moon saturn conj which is conj my sun neptune conj

Lulu-B
05-03-2013, 04:28 PM
My son's Moon is exact conj my husband's asc.