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LoneStar
12-16-2007, 10:46 PM
Hello Everyone!

I am wondering if anyone can help me understand if the current period is a good time for me to be actively pursuing an intimate relationship? My progressed chart is what I'd like to use to help guide my course in the upcoming months.


One after another, I have had a series of relationships, all of which were meaningful and very passionate learning experiences, but something always got in the way of my staying long enough to establish a deep or lasting bond. And I think it was my natal Leo Saturn in the 7th.

I haven't met the right person yet, I feel, but I am wondering now if that person actually exists for me. The profoundly deep and lasting union is really what I want, even though it is a desire which feels deeply frustrated by so many other contradictory forces in my life at this point. Especially all the past hurts and "learning experiences" that have happened along the way.

I know perfection does not exist, but my heart tells me that I can have someone in this life to meet me at all levels. I've fallen in and out of love so many times in the pursuit of this ideal, and while I have learned so much from everyone and every experience I have ever been involved with, I also feel like I have suffered too many broken bonds and too much change to keep the flame of love's hope alive. I want to keep searching for that partner, because life seems meaningless without someone to love in my life everyday, but at this point, I honestly feel damaged by all the "losses" and change and disappointment I've suffered through. And now I'm having a hard time feeling courageous enough to express my love again.

I really feel strongly that with my recently passing Saturn Return, some very major transformations have occurred within me and I feel very much like a changed person. I feel I am in a whole new field of possibility, which is why I'm choosing to rely more on my Progressed Chart than my Natal Chart like I used to. I feel profoundly (and uncomfortably) alone for the first time in my life, and I really want to keep seeking someone to share the journey with, but not against all sensible odds. Transitting Chiron is on my Aquarius Ascendant now, which is another indication, I believe, of the feelings of hurt and isolation I am fighting against right now.

....What do you guys think?... Are the Cosmos telling me I should actually be alone for a while, or is that special someone just around the corner, praying to himself that I don't lose hope and wall myself off? Should I remain open to love's potential, or just call it quits?

Also, can a progressed chart indicate what sort of person or relationship I am likely to attract at this time? I ask because I'm not so sure I like the aspects to my Progressed Sun right now. Coupled with that Pluto and True Node and Vertex in the 7th and I don't know what to think... Looks like any relationship I get into it could be intense or destructive...??.

And one more question: does anyone know if a progressed chart can indicate the level of relationship I am currently capable of bringing into a situation? Where can I look to determine my current strengths and challenges in love?

Thank You!

LoneStar
12-18-2007, 11:32 PM
No takers on the chart?

Hmmm! That's surprising!

But thats actually fine with me :p because while I was waiting for someone to take interest in this thread, I went over to Astrodienst and plugged in the date which would give me the exact same chart as the progressed chart (May 13, 1978) and set the ascendant for 29 Pisces at 3:31AM.

I got a chart identical to my progressed chart, but Astrodienst considered it natal birth data, so the program provided me with all of the nifty features they offer for free like the "personal portrait" "astroclick love" and "love flirtation and sex" all that other jazz. For the progressed data. So, using those, I could begin to look at some of the relationship aspects I might be carrying within my progressed energy.

Has anyone else here done this? If so what did you think? The Astrodienst decriptions of my progressed energy seemed really accurate for where I'm at now. I also decided to use it to get really kinky :56: and play around with the new discovery some more: I ran that progressed chart with my natal through the "astroclick partner," option, and explored some of the growth related issues I might be experiencing between my natal chart (birth pattern) and my progressed chart (who I identify with now after experiencing several major life changes).

And THAT was also pretty interesting!!

kira_la
01-17-2008, 03:32 PM
hmmm... I've never done that. I'll have to give it a try. I didn't know you could do a chart by setting the AC. Thanks for that bit of info!

franklin taylor
08-12-2008, 07:59 AM
I can only say, Lonestar, I have met/dated two different people whose Natal Suns conjuncted my Progressed Sun....Near the Cusp of Libra both Virgos the 20th and 22nd of September which is not a likely thing for I didn't know their birthdates until I met them LOL. As little as I have dated, it is really, really unlikely to be coincidental...but one person's Aquarius ascendant is opposite near exactly of my Natal Sun pairing us well. In that respect anyways. I wonder sometimes if a person's progressed Sun conjuncting the person's North Node would symbolize meeting one's soulmate of that same degree and birthdate the other person's Natal Sun is in that degree of a sign, or meeting one's true destiny could be indicated. If so I'd have to live to be 201 years before it happened LOL....my NN is in Taurus and my Progressed Sun is just entering Libra and it roughly only moves forward one degree at a time. But I know people whose NN is only a few degrees away from their Progressed Sun, and I could meet someone whose progressed Sun is conjuncting my Natal Sun fulfilling their destiny or soulmate desires LOL. Since we are talking about a person's Soul Mission and destiny when we talk about the North Node it may hold some grain of truth.....maybe not LOL
Take care
Franklin

DiDi
08-12-2008, 08:19 AM
hi LoneStar
I wanted to share my experiances on this it may help you see a few ways to get an idea of what might be forthcomming:)

my sun is 25aqu (i married young then divorced by 28) go figure that saturn return..lol
when it progressed to aries, men were basically flocking at my doorstep all aries men too (7 in a year)
1. they did the chaseing as thats what aries do best
2. my sun was giveing indications of aries traits which i think attracted them.


the types of relationships i have endured are represented by my 7th house
for me it is taurus.. steadfast and workaholic family orientated type i was attracted to
then it went to gemini i learn that haveing one person may not be in my best interest and i needed a variety and to learn different types of people what is better for me.
it has been in cancer the past few years, i met a aries man back when i said i was attracting them and he has a cancer moon conjunct the asc.. he is the man i never knew i would be so in love with that it changed me (for the better) THE TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP I WANT IS CANCER STYLE..

a lesson i had to learn in this life time was to enjoy the moment, not to fast track the important stuff as id be missing out on the "NOW"!
Being with this person has taught me patience and not to over annalyse

I wonder if the nodes have much to do with this.. im comming from sag and needing tohead to gemini
he actually came from gemini and needs to head to sag...

the other night while talking to him it all dawned on me what we are needing to do together... i just hope i get to play with my toy after ive learnt from it some more...:p

check out your progressed 7th house your sun and what your nodes are doing?

cassanra
08-12-2008, 12:24 PM
WEll,,all this is interesting as this last year or so the progressed sun has been conjunct my natal fifth house venus/mars conjunction in leo (and my sun/moon miidpoint no less) and I keep looking around to see if anything is going to happen! All the reading say....good news on the relationship front but nothing happening yet. I am curious DiDi, why the sun progressions? Would it not be connected to 7th house ruler? When I looked through my history I noticed that during a time when a relationship turned to marriage (though did not last) progressed venus ( my 7th house ruler) was trining progressed jupiter. Progressions are new to me so what you are saying is of interest to me. thanks

DiDi
08-12-2008, 01:07 PM
cassanra.. i feel somewhat stalked:rolleyes:

there are many many many signs of relationship. love. attachment. aspects to look out for.
I have no idea why i met the men i did when my sun progressed to aries and that these men all be aries sun signs.
it just happened.

1. love indicator for women is the sun, it could have been it, i also went into a 1 year numerology that could also back up the aries thing.
if i was to do a progressed chart for myself i have no idea what to look out for im afraid, as the signs i thing would be good dont have to mean anything more than a passing fantacy.
id look for signs progressing to your houses especially the asc des 5th 7th and even ic and mc. any changeing sign progressed is good to.

4leafclovah
08-12-2008, 05:22 PM
My progressed sun is in Aries and all the men I have been interested in have had Aries suns even when I wouldn't have guessed it. The most recent person had their natal sun conjunct my progressed sun AND their natal Venus conjunct my progressed Mars. The person before that had their progressed sun conjunct my sun/moon midpoint and their progressed Mars/Venus trine my progressed Mars..and of course their natal sun was in Aries(sextile my progressed Mars). Nothing really big developed with either of these people ,but the initial attraction was present and the obvious chart indicators were present. I guess the only sure thing is that you will attract a certain type, not that anything major will develop( as I have learned )..I think that is where Saturn comes in to play?? Saturn was squaring my progressed Venus at the time I began meeting alot of Aries men, but it emphasized more of the negative Arian traits rather than the positive because my progressed sun was also opposing natal Pluto and I had Venus square Pluto in effect. I now have Saturn about to trine progressed Venus so I am interested if this will bring someone more positive my way.

DiDi
08-13-2008, 09:24 AM
4leafclovah... you are smack on the money... aussie term for bullseye



your statement:)
I guess the only sure thing is that you will attract a certain type, not that anything major will develop( as I have learned )..I think that is where Saturn comes in to play?? Saturn was squaring my progressed Venus at the time I began meeting alot of Aries men, but it emphasized more of the negative Arian traits rather than the positive because my progressed sun was also opposing natal Pluto and I had Venus square Pluto in effect

this is exacly what happens...

I guess you have to have more major connections going on and saturn being a strong player in that.
my parners pro sun in nearly on my midpoint and my pro is nealy conj his sun
as this has been getting closer... so have we.
my problem with my partner is he has capricorn on his 7th.. and he let it slip the other night about him being very causious about whom he lets into his heart... promblem is no man or women has ever been there before... :D just another aquarian challenge on my part lol