Critical degrees in my chart

[River]

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[lillyjgc]

River, can you re-post your chart please? Its expired.....
Cheers Lillyjgc

[lillyjgc]

River, Yes..BOTH charts are now showing! Very weird....Anyway I will take a look later..(We're having another severe storm so I can't stay on right now)
Cheers, Lillyjgc

[wilsontc]

River,

With Pluto (transformation, ruler of 8th house) and Mars (being, also action, traditional ruler of 8th house) in the 8th house and both in opposition to each other, this is a birth day year of "active transformation" in which you need to take action to transform things in your life. This need for action is reinforced since this is a bucket chart with Mars as the "handle" of the bucket.

Actively,

Tim

[starlink]

Hi River! You need the natal chart as well. You cannot read a Solar Return chart on it's own, you HAVE to compare it with the natal chart. The Solar Return Ascendant is important. Look in which house it falls in your natal. If it is very close to a housecusp (within 5°)take the next house. Issues of that house will dominate the year. If the Ascendant happens to be the same as the birth Ascendant, then a MAJOR year is ahead for you. If the Descendant of your Natal chart happens to be the Ascendant of your Solar Return, a difficult year can be expected (have seen that over and over again). And like that there are more things to compare. I happen to have your natal chart. You have an ascendant at 5°18 in Aquarius right?
I will check the solar return and will be back shortly. Cheers, Star.

[starlink]

Hi, I am back. Well, very interesting! The Solar Return Ascendant falls in your natal 9th house and exactly conjunct your natal Uranus! and the Solar Arc Uranus exactly trines your natal Moon. Also in the Solar Return chart, we see Uranus coming to a conjunction with the Solar 4th house of home and the Solar Arc Moon at 5° Scorpio is making an exact square with your Natal Ascendant. Your progressed Moon moves in the coming year between 2° and 15°Cancer in your 5th house. In the 2009 you will have your progressed Moon conjunct your natal Moon in 6 and a few month before that opposing your Sun in 12 exactly. But for now we look at 2008.There is a possibilty that you will move in connection with your work or that there will be significant changes in the coming year regarding your social status (10th house). SA (= transiting)Pluto is about to enter Capricorn and conjunct your natal Mercury, co-ruler of your intercepted 7th house and your 9th house. Your ideologies and mentality will undergo deep transformation. Pluto will also trine the NorthNode in the intercepted Virgo sign in the 7th.
Progressed Venus is exactly trining your Moon which is a very nice aspect and often relates to a major romance. Solar arc Venus is sextiling your natal Ascendant and in the SR chart she is the ruler of the 7th in the 1st and it squares Saturn. I really wonder what that all means but if I you are not married (and even if you should be attached) I would say that there is a chance of meeting someone significant. All those Solar Arc planets in the 2nd of the SA chart, the Venus house, security and love and the ruler of the 5th, Mars trining Neptune and the Moon. You mentioned the planets and points in critical degrees. It does indicate some crisis involving yourself (Asc.29°), the 5th house (ruler Mars) and the Node as well, in the 3rd house of contacts. Also SA Pluto, Mercury, Jupiter and Sun all fall in your 12th house of secrets. Mercury rules natal 4th and 5th. I will have a better look at it lateron. Must prepare dinner now. Let me know what you think. Cheers, Star.
Maybe I am totally wrong, Solar Returns are not my favorite.

[Atria]

Hi River, we studied the solar return by both ways, comparing with the natal chart but also what it says itself too, we saw that critical degrees indicate some looses is like the planet is not too strong, the end of the sign, the houses are second-eight, so the things are related to that houses and the determination of that planets to other houses, luckily the opposition between mars and pluto is distended with trines, that distention helps a lot, that makes the opposition not too strong. When i come back to my home I' ll study it with your natal. I have to see the solar return converse of Alexander Marr too , to see what indicated.

[starlink]

Hi River,
it looks like scorpio rules my 9th house nat
Yes indeed, so this Scorpio Ascendant of your SReturn falls in that house and highlights all sorts of things having to do with that house, so foreign countries, different cultures, but also universal studies and religion. What strikes me more than anything else is that Ascendant right on top of your natal Uranus. So if we sort of combine the two things, you could either become a bit more rebellious than you , with Aquarius Asc. already have a bit but restraint by that sextile to your Saturn in 7. Now just from the feel of it it looks like you would like to get more freedom for yourself because this sextile is now being repeated by an opposition in your Solar Return chart see? Because Saturn is in your 7th, you could feel a bit stiffled by others (if you are not married) or by a partner (if you are in a relationship) and you would like to change that situation. Your natal Mars and Jupiter are in any case already quite "stuck" as it were in the intercepted sign Virgo which could have caused you moments of irritation and frustration. That conjunction wants action, wants to DO things. They dont want to be restricted by their ruler Mercury being in square to Saturn. It is to your advantage that that square is made out of Earth signs and the Mutual Reception between the two. This could work out in positive energy actually (could make you a bit stubborn as well!:). So I have a feeling that you want to get more personal freedom. With so many planets in the 2nd you are focussed on values and psychologically seen, on selfworth. Maybe you want to do a study next year to gain more confidence in yourself. Maybe the study has to do with psychology or more indepth astrology.

(i can see it starting to head that way already with the events over the last month going the way they are)
Well, I wonder what that could be. Does it have anything to do with 9th house matters or relationships? Or health issues? Because your Moon in the natal 6th is also trining that Solar Return Asc.Natal Saturn is sextiling your SR Asc. He is ruler of your 12th house. SR Moon is getting this year into your SR 12th, so that is also possible. Maybe a check-up or something. Venus, ruler of the 6th in the SReturn is in your 1st squaring Saturn in Virgo so maybe an intestinal problem could be possible. You see, there are all sorts of interpretations, that's why I personally prefer just to give general tendencies instead of real "forecasts". I am not a fortune teller, so I give you all the different options and maybe one of them will fit, LOL!!
You must have had some medical problems in your life if I am not mistaken, looking at the Moon in the 6th opposite Sun in 12th. Am I right?

wish i could do predictive work better
Well, dont we all!! Just take it step by step. Took me a long time as well, believe me and I am still not totally sure. I like to look at progressions and transits, but a Solar Return chart, I dont know. And it is always difficult to look at your own chart. I look at the transits in the morning and then see if anything makes sense în the evenîng, but most of the time it does not. Even when I was acutely operated in March, there was NO sign of it in my chart, totally ridiculus!! No Mars-Ascendant contact, no surprising Uranus, it was all trines and sextiles. Now, I ask you, what do you do with thát! But it is somehow easier with people I do not know.
By the way, something totally different. Did anything come up about the minivan in the meantime? Cheers, Starlink

[starlink]

River, you said:

it does scare me a bit
Well yes, these things are scary. Now that I read your post certain things came back to me (from other posts). I sometimes dont know anymore what it was all about. I should have known of course that you are married, sorry. But as you see, now we are getting a better picture (thats why personal one on one counseling is so much easier in finding out what is really going on). I really do think that the relationship thing will be quite important. Still, that Solar Return Asc. in your natal 9th house puzzles me. Is that old flame of yours a foreigner maybe? Next year January, I told you above, your Progressed Moon will oppose your Sun (ruler of your 7th). This is often a sign of relationship break-up so what you are feeling could not be so far off. But other things have to be looked at of course. If you are unhappy in your marriage , even though you have a small child, it is always better to get out, believe me. Kids feel everything anyways. So if you would stay for the childs sake as so many do, you will submit her to more trauma then when she sees you happy again, even without her daddy all the time around.
Keep me posted please, so we can see what this Solar Return really tells us. Better even, try writing down what happens (with dates!). That way you can later look back on it and learn from it. Cheers, Star.

[starlink]

Good day River! Yes, that could be exactly it, explosîon of astrology. It went through my mind first thing, but then I thought, well, maybe she also wants to learn something else, assuming you already studied quite a bit of astrology see?
The guy that the possible romance could be with lives an hour away, so i guess that could maybe be it?
Yes, that could be it. I really have a feeling that something will come of it. That's why I always have the natal chart next to the Solar chart, because the SR chart can actually ONLY show what you would like to happen, not what will actually happen. I once (long ago)had this SR chart with a packed 6th house, so I assumed that the woman really would get a job that year. But she did not, she just hoped and prayed and God knows what else in the hope she would find a job. that Solar chart showed her field of interest for that year, rather than things really happening there. Why? because in her natal chart there was no indication of a new job. It was an interesting experience for me. Your natal chart does show interaction with your SR chart. Transiting Jupiter is conjuncting your natal Pluto, ruler of the 10th and trining your Venus in the 1st.
Cheers, Star.

[satyagraha202]

Hi River! New to critical degrees as well! Your critical degrees kind of make more sense than mine with what you are describing in earlier posts, but with solar returns and even our charts we have the ability to recognize where the energy of the universe is flowing in our lives but we do have the ability to move past all of it by focusing on our destiny and higher purposes. Here's my attempt at reading yours-- The sun in your second house in Capricorn gives the theme of the upcoming year which will be about security and money for you. With Sun at 29 degrees, representing endings in that house, it shows some ending regarding financial security - so this could simply mean the change of how you earn your money or where you gather your resources. The SR sun rules the SR 9th house, so may be dealing with something you are learning (ie. astrology), spirituality, or travel (foreigners). Also the Pluto at 29 in second represents something major and extreme as well in regards to finances, Pluto ruling SR 12th & 1st house, dealing with old issues, secrets, and how you express/value yourself. Mars in the SR 8th, at 29 shows an ending in regards to shared financial resources -potential past selfishness in regards to love relationships and dealing with feelings of constraint this year because of it- ruling your SR 5th house of creativity/children.

The ascendent can also show where we place a lot of focus, and as it is in Scorpio with SR pluto in second, shows a focus on once again, finances, economic security, and self-value.

It really seems like this will be a powerful year for you to pursue some of your creative interests that may provide new and unconventional sources of income and for you to really master budgeting and planning your finances.

[starlink]

Hello River, at the moment very little time to answer you, must make lunch. Will come back later OK? Thanks for your long answer! Cheers, Starlink

[4leafclovah]

My 2008 return ascendant is the same as my natal. I have been trying to figure out what this might mean. I think I am going through a major transformation. I have several planets at critical degrees, my return moon is conjunct natal Pluto and my progressed moon is soon to be conjunct Uranus..

[starlink]

Hello 4leaf! Yes, this is a very strong indication of an important year. Everytime the solar Ascendant is the same as the natal Asc. you can expect major personal integration and with that Moon conj.Pluto also transformation and change. Very indicative! Just hold your horses!!!and good luck to you. Cheers, Starlink

By the way, if the natal Ascendant becomes the Solar Ascendant one can expect a difficult year.

[starlink]

River, hi there! I see that I did not come back anymore after the 21st of December last. Sorry about that, Christmas preparations took all my free time. Hope you had a good Christmas and may 2008 bring you peace of mind, comfort and a good life in general. Cheers, Starlink

[4leafclovah]

Starlink, I have read that the natal ascendant conjunct Sr ascendant can mean literal death, but I have also read that the natal descendant conjunct SR ascendant is ominous. What do you think? Do you think the return sun or moon is most important?

[starlink]

4leaf, I would not go as far as that. Never heard of death in relation to this. Maybe the things happening to you could bring about a rebirth of some kind, but as long as other transits etc. do not point towards physical death, I dont think this will be the case.
Sun and Moon are important always. In a Solar Return it can show your health very often. Always compare the Solar Return with your natal. See where the SR Moon falls in your natal, where the SR Ascendant falls in your natal chart (that part of your life will be very important for this year, so lets say it falls in your second, it will be a focus on money. If it falls near the cusp of the next house, then take the next house to be the one with the year focus.). Progressed Moon and Sun are more important than Solar Moon and Sun I would say. Cheers, Starlink

[4leafclovah]

Thank you Starlink!:)