View Full Version : So i just got arrested......
11-30-2007, 03:32 AM
And i wonder what will happen to me?
I will give more details in a PM to anyone who REALLY would like to help (not just the sticky beaks please!)
I am in shock as to the way i was arrested.....so please excuse the fact that i havent had a go at the chart myself yet.
LG ( I am not a bad person by the way)
11-30-2007, 03:34 AM
Just have a look at the degree of the mc..........although i am not in the U.S, i find that pretty funny!
11-30-2007, 06:51 AM
Please can someone help.....I think I am sitting in the 12th house here....I have ideas of what that means....but i need more knowledge than what i possess.................
I am not sure about the moon....and the degree its at?
11-30-2007, 08:36 AM
the ascendant is pisces so jupiter rules you...fitting as jupiter rules legal matters...jupiter is high up, in your tenth, strengthened by being in sag and angular, but venus in your seventh house of open enemies, in virgo, is square to your ruler....Venus is in mercurys sign...venus rules your third house of siblings and neighbourhoods and your eighth house of shared resources...5 *somethings* ago mercury was sextile to jupiter in venus sign so thats when an enemy *dobbed you in*, or you connected to the law.
an arrest would surely have to involve mars (police) and mars is in cancer heading back toward the 4th house....mars ,to your home....the moon and mars are about to get together in cancer.
Jupiters sextile to neptune in your 12th house of self undoing suggests to me that drugs or alcohol might be involved......Jupiters sextile to mercury in your eighth suggests to me you might be fined.
Representation would be represented by the house six cusp (agents) and the sun rules that cusp..the moon will be trine the sun in 5 *somethings*and both the luminaries are sextile saturn in your sixth.So I don't think you will be imprisoned....hopefully not...cheers, lillyjgc
11-30-2007, 08:49 AM
Lilly spot on!.............I was growing an illegal herb........i feel very strongly that it is exactly that ...a herb! to some yes, it is considered a "drug"...So much hype over a wee plant. Anyway the reason i laughed at the 9 11 degree is they came in by helicopter!..........If someone has dobbed me in, i'd be suprised, (but ya never know, people are strange!) I think they have done a rounding swoop of the valley i live in.......I can handle a fine......And i dont think i was thinking all that well about juiter....got neptune in my head and ran with it.........Thankyou very much.......(The police in Oz are on a spending spree, such a waste of tax payers dollars....surely they cant give a fine close to what todays mission cost)
I apologise to anyone offended by this post......I truely believe i hurt NOONE, with my actions and therefore cant see why it is a crime.
11-30-2007, 11:51 AM
Hi Liquid Green! This chart then is an event chart right?
I think you put the month wrong here. It says October and we are in November! Also, Mars is not retrograde in this chart, so I think we have to look at another chart.
11-30-2007, 02:18 PM
Stress and shock........look what they are both doing to me.....I mean i am up at 2 oclock in the morning.......(not normal for me)
thanks Starlink......how embarrasing.........glad someone keeps an eye on the small details....
Im wondering how lilly knew then?!!! I mean its a month out!
I am organizing the right chart now
11-30-2007, 02:26 PM
So here is the real chart........
11-30-2007, 09:43 PM
This chart is totally different....Thats why I asked you (by pm) if it was an event chart or a horary....
Plase disregard my above post as this chart bears no similarity ..If I get time I will take a look at this one...all the best, lillyjgc
11-30-2007, 10:00 PM
Sorry Lilly, it was intended to be a horary of the event if that makes sense and i just stuffed it up at Astrodienst scrolling down to put in the mth..........I wonder though, why your reading was so accurate.........perhaps subconsciously i knew the one i put up would tell the story.......I am abit blown away by this. Anyone ever had this happen? (posting the WRONG chart but the chart teling the story anyway?)
12-01-2007, 02:42 AM
Liquid Green: Here's my take on the correct chart:
The event is a public matter, ruled here by Saturn...The event-ruler, Saturn is in Virgo on the cusp of house six..which as we know rules your daily affairs, your agents and those who represent you. The ninth house of legal affairs is ruled by jupiter and jupiter is close to conjuncting pluto (Lord of the *underworld*, and thus lord of illegal acts)...This matter will be resolved in 2 *somethings*...probably weeks because it is then in real time that this conjunction perfects...The end of something. The moon rules you and is trine the jupiter/pluto conjunction....A house 5 (recreational) pursuit is coming to an end and apparently this outcome is for the best.
That the moon is in house 5 brings another matter to my attention: Your mind may be on matters concerning childrens' affairs....this house is ruled by the sun and the sun is the apex of a T-square, applying to square both saturn and Uranus...Your rebellion against the authorities may impact on matters concerning your children, recreational pursuits.
The ruler of your mental state (h3),( also neighbours), is mercury, in scorpio...secrets and is the apex of a T-square- the moon applying to square mercury and mercury separating from a square to neptune in the 11th...-your friends, but also your hopes and wishes....The moons opposition to eptune suggests to me you have been deceived by a *friend* or someone who you mistakenly thought WAS a friend....Mercury is trapped in the eighth so news concerning shared resources, financial arrangements,will not be be good.
Maybe you will have to pay a fine.
The ruler of you is mars....mars on the cusp of the 4th, retrograding to the third...(your actions)...causing you worry...Mars is heading back to oppose the jupiter/pluto conjunction, but will stop just short of perfecting the opposition then it will go direct...something will have to be redone- as cancer rules the 4th it may be connected your home- you may move house even.
as the last aspect made by the moon is a trine to jupiter and pluto I feel you may resolve this with the help of an agent...mars applies to a sextile with saturn on h6 cusp...This person wpould be Virgoan in character and thus want to *go by the book*-perhaps needing an undertaking from you that your days of rebellion are over *for the sake of your home and family*...With Saturn ruling this house and the tenth (the judgement) it would seem likely that you would need to *learn a lesson*, or plead that you have.....Jupiter rules your house of confinements too so your fate is in their hands: *Its up to the authorities*...As Virgo rules health matters as well perhaps you could defend yourself in regard to the medicinal properties of unmentioned herb.
Issues of *responsibility*, willingness to *change ones ways* are all under the microscope here because of saturns ongoing opposition to uranus...and mars retrograde motion...The ruler of your twelfth, jupiter will soon change signs but into more serious saturnian capricorn :law and order...so promises you make must be kept. I hope this helps, Cheers Lillyjgc
12-01-2007, 03:04 AM
Lots of food for thought Lilly.....thanks for your time....I will do whatever i need to, to keep from going to jail......I have a son to be worrying about.
Sorry about the other chart.
12-01-2007, 01:13 PM
Hi LG! dont worry, we all make mistakes and sometimes, just by slightly touching a key on your keyboard changes the time, country or in this case, the month. I have it happening to me all the time (but I cheque because I know this sometimes happens) and very often I find Bolivia instead of Belgium, you know what I mean?
You wrote:it was intended to be a horary of the event if that makes sense It does not really make sense, it is one or the other. In a horary there is a question involved and I dont see a question here, so it should be read as an event chart. Then Lilly interpretes it as a horary as far as I can see, because I think that in an event chart, you just read the chart as in a natal chart. In a horary you only look at applying and separating aspects.
In the back of your mind I think , IF you would like it to be a horary, that you wanted to ask: what will happen to me?, so I will treat it as a horary chart and see if I can add something to Lilly's comments. She covers everything very well so maybe I have nothing more to say here, but 4 eyes see more than 2, so I give it a go.
You are Mars and Moon. Mars in 4 in cancer, Moon in 5 in Leo. Mars is in fall and Moon is peregrine, showing that you dont know where you are with all this happening to you. At least Mars rules the triplicity by day and night in the sign Cancer, but he is not very happy, sitting at home and waiting for something unexpected to come (trine to Uranus in 12) regarding maybe incarceration. But Uranus and Neptune are in Mutual Reception and we can exchange the planets positions, keeping them of course in their own degree, but making them dignified which diminishes the damage. The trine from you to (now Neptune) at 19° Pisces in 4 days could show a confusing situation coming up but one that wont be too distressing thanks to the trine. Maybe they let you do some community work instead of putting you behind bars.
The authorities are represented by Saturn, ruler of the 10th and a possible traitor by the 7th = Venus, strong in own sign. Saturn is moving towards the opposition with Uranus or Neptune if you like but will go retrograde before this happens and this could maybe show that they will not take extreme measures. Moon is leaving the square to the Sun, showing the troubles with the law you got yourself into. Moon also left the opposition to either Neptune or Uranus which also shows the shock and confusion you had. The Sun, ruler of your Moon is in the 9th which does show that you have to explain things in court most probably. He moves towards a square with Neptune (if you put Neptune in 12) but ends with a sextile to Uranus which could show an opportunity to remain free (Uranus, freedom). In the meantime, as Lilly also rightly pointed out, Mars is retrograding towards the opposition with Pluto on the 7th of January 2008 and then Jupiter on the 15th of January before going direct again on the 30th and of course he will have to go over the same planets again after that. This could show that you will go through some difficult psychological personal issues and by doing that you probably will learn some lessons. It also shows that you will go through conflicts regarding inprisonment (Jupiter) and/or a fine. But Mars will trine Venus before opposing these two planets, so you could get some financial help from others, also showed by the sextile to Venus from the Moon and from Venus to Pluto, co-ruler of the 8th (other people's money). Moon also first square Mercury (who is VOC and therefore ineffective, maybe showing that you will have difficulties to overcome in explaining to them that the grass is inoffensive,( ruler of 6 and 3) before she will trine both Pluto and Jupiter. So I think that things will not be as awful as you might think. as these two aspects are also the last one the Moon makes. (and if we keep Pluto out of the equation than it would be Jupiter, the great benific, she lasts aspects).
The Moon is also ruler of the end of the Matter house, so this counts for that as well. Things will probably end well. Keep us posted if you can and good luck to you. Starlink
12-01-2007, 09:47 PM
Thanks Starlink.....the question was "what will happen to me".........so thankyou.
I am a bit concerned about venus in the 7th..........I dont know who to trust...(apart form myself!)
I am seeing a good solicitor this week so i will have more idea of the stance i need to be taking at court.....part of me wants to fight it and not just admit that i was a criminal.......I'll see what the solicitor suggests....
I will keep you all updated with my progress......thankyou to all that have helped.....its not only about the help you've given me astrologically, but being able to communicate with you all aboout it has helped tremendously aswell............especially when there is a traitor that i dont know about!
Much love to all of you!
12-02-2007, 02:11 AM
Ok, things are happening quickly!
A cop has just come back to give me the court attendance notice....the date is 30th January 2008.....he just asked me if i fertilized and watered the plants.........I told him I water and fertilize everything in my garden.
He seemed pretty nice....told me I have nothing to worry about....:rolleyes:
On the "full facts sheet" that describes the arrest it says that the estimated value of a fully mature plant is worth $2000. I am worried as they werent mature at all, but i think they are gonna say they were.............and they have destroyed them already.................................
plants worth more than gold!............................................
I have a way to go but if anyone wants to look at that day, please do.....unfortantely i cant give an exact time.
12-02-2007, 02:45 AM
Liquid: I have attached a chart set for 09:00am-the beginning of the court day....Cheers Lillyjgc
Hope to get time to take a look for you a bit later, Cheers, Lillyjgc
12-02-2007, 03:25 AM
the day of your court appearance is the day Mars stations direct....remember though, mars has a lot of ground to cover before the *lost* ground is recovered....Fortunately Mars has stationed short of opposition to Pluto which has only just changed signs into capricorn....
The court appearance is a tenth house matter and quite rightly Jupiter is ruling the MC. Pars fortuna is posited there too and at 09.00am is past its square to saturn.in the next hours it will conjunct pluto, venus and jupiter- jupiter rules the ascendant, you and also the court appearance.
I notice naughty wayward uranus very close to the ascendant so your rebelliousness may be showing if you're not careful.. I notice jupiter, your ruler, makes no applying aspects so is weakened.Venus however is about to conjunct you....(This is interesting, but a digression- Venus signified your enemy in the previous chart and now venus is here coming face to face with you in Saturns sign!)
the moon also rules you.It is in scorpio, in the eighth house stuck in the via combusta,where it is very weakened.It closely applies to a sextile with saturn in your sixth (your agent or representative on the day)-This represents you and your legal counsel coming together...In real time about 10:30 am....
The moon is also sextile your ruler jupiter and jupiter sextiles the ascendant so I would see this as being a beneficial influence.In addition the moon applies a sextile to venus...in the tenth (your reputation)...Three major sextiles made by the moon that day will be helpful-
moon sextile venus (in saturns sign)....good legal representation
Moon sextile Saturn (in mercury's sign, and mercury is in Aquarius, in your twelfth-HIDDEN enemies.....)...this refers to the person who assisted the police, but you will identify that person-and it may be a very unexpected person....The moon applies to a trine with mercury....
The moon sextiles jupiter that day also.....so you may be able to put a convincing case...or plead guilty with mitigating circumstances,.
Venus rules the eighth house...this suggests to me that a profit was to be made here and judging by venus's proximity to Jupiter, a BIG profit.The moon being in the eighth reiterates this theme...
The end of the matter is ruled by mercury, applying to a trine with mars in mercury's sign but mars will move forward to oppose pluto in *6* somethings.
Liquid, it is not possible to be certain you will go to gaol...but there seems to be a few indications of a penalty. the sun is heading toward the cusp of the twelfth and the moon will square the sun that day (not good)...
your representative, saturn is square the MC (judge) square uranus, (your dispositor).....so your rebellion may result in the judge wanting to punish you....
as the moon is in the via combusta, any lies told would have a very bad impact.
I hope you get a fair hearing- but by the look of your chart a great deal will depend on your representation...
As a matter of interest, your ruler is peregrine so an adjournment can't be ruled out....All the best, Lillyjgc
12-02-2007, 04:34 AM
Wow.....a lot to think about...........I think they adjourn cases where the person isnt pleading guilty....................perhaps this is something to talk about with the solicitor......
i wonder, perhaps the person who dobbed me in, thought if they gave my name it would help there own case, perhaps they had been arrested aswell......it would explain them being there on the day...
I will try not to be rebellious, i guess copping it on the chin will be necessary...........
thanks Lilly for your time......i hope i can give something back to you at some point!
12-02-2007, 04:58 AM
Liquid, I think the person who *dobbed you in* will be there-as a witness (for the prosecution)-mercury being placed in Saturns sign.
From the potentcy of the uranus placement I am thinking *contrition* might be required.....Its quite possible that a bond (moon in h8) or community service could be the outcome (the sun approaching your twelfth and ruler of the sixth, your daily affairs.).The solicitor is definitely key.The way you present yourself *on the day* will be very important and also whether or not you can call on character referees.All the best, lillyjgc
12-02-2007, 06:02 AM
I have character referees................and i'll be tying back the dreads!
I am not sure with the laws, but doesnt the prosecution need to tell us (me and my legal rep) about any witnesses? or can they just sping em on me at the last minute?
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