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waterlilly
10-24-2007, 10:51 PM
hi guys...mucho tiempo

I wanted some clarification on relationships in my life. what is making me so wary of entering them? ??
Over the last few years i have got rid of the deadwood out of my life. But, now i'm lonely and to be honest , I could do some new pals & abit of a cuddle. I'm quite intense and find it difficult to trust men & women based upon my experiences. I'm a spiritual person, cuddly & playful but,i don't suffer fools gladly.

So based upon an insightful email i recieved. could someone tell me when i'm likely to meet new friends & a chap? why do i attract the most decitful people who take advantage of my naievity? and is this likely to change in my life or is it an ongoing theme?

and 2, i have just moved into a wonderful new home. however, when I read my tarot cards it's talking of another move. I thought i would be here for a couple of years until i get my perminant home. am i wrong? if so when does it look like i'm moving again? I'll start packing again...phew!

and anything else you think i need to know would be great. http://forum.astro.com/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default/smiley.gif

thanks

23,8,1971

13.55pm
london England
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starlink
10-25-2007, 01:58 PM
Hi Waterlilly! From looking at your chart it is clear to me that you encounter deception in your relationships. You see, Venus, ruler of your 7th is part of a T-square with Jupiter/Neptune in the 1st and Saturn in the 7th.
Because Venus is combust by your Sun, it makes Venus weak and your Sun being at 29° in Leo is at a critical degree (even though it is conjunct the very lucky star Regulus, but I dont know in how far that plays a role in natal Astrology. I personally never use the stars, only occasionally in horary. There is enough to look at without them!).

With this NEPTUNE/JUPITER conjunction in the 1st, yes, you are indeed easily misled. You see things way too nice, you dream your impossible dreams and you somehow forget to use your discriminative qualities like that Moon/Pluto in Virgo trine Saturn and Mercury in Virgo. This could be an ongoing theme in your chart, yes, but you can prevent these things from happening if you can tell others what you feel and think. Your Venus square Saturn is way too cautious when it comes to others and that Moon/Pluto conjunction keeps all feelings hidden. You really can change that by taking a chance once in a while, confide in someone, otherwise others will never really understand what you want or they misunderstand you and therefore (probably unintentionally) misuse your good self.
At the moment transiting Neptune is squaring your Ascendant which makes things even more difficult. You could be confused and cant see clear at the moment so dont force any issues, it wont help. Go with the flow until this passes. Your 4th house is in Pisces and Uranus has indeed gone over the cusp recently, probably indicative of your last move. In June 2008 he turns retrograde and will move towards that cusp again but in November goes direct again so he will not conjunct or come too close to the cusp. In 2009 I see that transiting Uranus will be in opposition to your Moon and who knows, if that could bring a change in the homesector again. I need to look at the progressions and see if Progressed Moon maybe shows another move. Will come back later on this.
Transiting Jupiter has been sextiling your 11th house cusp which could have brought some new friends.
I do see that transiting Pluto is squaring (and will be exact on Dec.1) your Moon-Pluto conjunction. This can be maybe an indication of a disruption or upset in the homesector which would affect your emotional life a great deal. Moon is ruler of your 8th and Pluto of your 12th. So maybe that will have something to do with what the Tarot cards tell you. I dont know how well you read Tarot cards of course, you might have mis-interpreted the whole thing, so please dont get too hang up on that. I will look at the progressions and will come back. Must go now, sorry. See you! Starlink

waterlilly
10-25-2007, 03:20 PM
Starlink you are exactly that a star.

thanks so much for taking the time to filter through my issues again.

can i just clarifiy that you indicted December 1st and a great emotional upset. would that be 2007?

in addition I sense that it's my mother Moon Conjuct/pluto. She's a scorpio and my moon right.

the 8th House is death ...hmmm can't think of anything to say to that:eek:


ok...thanks again star your just so understanding

thanks

starlink
10-25-2007, 04:45 PM
OK Waterlilly, here I am again. You said:

in addition I sense that it's my mother Moon Conjuct/pluto. She's a scorpio and my moon right.


I did not want to go into details but yes, this is a possibility, something to do with your mother. It does not necessarily have to do with death, because that often involves Saturn as well. Pluto is ruler of your 12th. Maybe a hospitalization. I have to look deeper into that and I think that is a bit too private to mention here.
So I run your chart with the Progressions and Solar Arc positions.
I do see Solar Arc Mercurius, ruler of your MC exactly conjuncting your natal Uranus, ruler of the 3rd and that will be roughly in 6 month time. They will be both in the 11th house of hope and ideals so maybe your immediate surroundings or Careerprospects (10th house)will undergo a radical (Merc. is 8th house ruler)change. Maybe your circle of friends will also be affected by it, or a family member like brother, sister, aunt, uncle or one of your neighbors.Progressed Pluto is now exactly half-sextile your Sun at 29°45 as well as Pr.Mercury. Both are conjunct. SA Saturn at 11° Cancer in the 8th house is now exactly square natal Uranus. This is another thing pointing at the 3rd house and difficulties related to it. Are you planning to embark on some sort of mental discipline? A course of some kind? Solar Arc Neptune in your 2nd house is exactly trining Natal Mercury in your 9th as well.
the Pr. Sun is now in Libra, which is a good placement when you want to find a partner. Progressed Moon in Capricorn in your second house is moving towards an exact sextile with your Ascendant. It could show that you are focussed on managing your financial assets more competently or, because Moon is co-ruler of the 8th, an inheritance is likely. Also progressed Mercury, ruler 8 will make the exact sextile to Jupiter. Maybe you need a loan(8th aspects the 2nd) in order to improve your home (Jupiter, ruler of the 4th as well) and you could get that or someone could support you financially. Natally you have your Part of Fortune conjunct your 2nd house cusp in trine to Venus! Natally Moon and Jupiter sextile one another, showing that financial increase in your life is a possibility. It also could show of course "money spend with ease". Progressed Neptune, ruler of your 4th house is entering a new sign at 0° Saggitarius where Neptune is very much at home. This could have been the recent new home you entered into. It shows a new beginning related to your family life. But Neptune is still opposing Saturn in the 7th. Just looking at this, it means that Neptune is opposing the ruler of the (intercepted) 2nd house of selfworth and finance. Because Saturn is in your 7th and shows that your selfconfidence is strongly depending or could be formed through a partner, this "insecurity theme" is very strongly coming to the forth at the moment, hence your question and your need for company.
An opposition is an aspect that asks for balance and I think that that is what you have to work on at the moment, balancing out your needs for security and trying not to get that security from a partner, but from inside yourself. Your childhood plays a very important role here. Try figuring out why you became so insecure, who did not love you as much as you would have liked, who or what stopped you from expressing yourself without pain (Chiron is exactly conjunct your 5th house). I think that you could soon figure this out and come to realize what you are capable of. There is a lot going on in your life and I think that within a year, you will look at things from a different perspective. Good luck with everything and realize that everything happens for a reason. Star.

waterlilly
10-25-2007, 05:26 PM
as always starlink

with compassion & sensativity.

thanks Girl.

:cheers:

erinj
10-25-2007, 08:58 PM
Hi waterlily:

There seems to be love headed your way with transiting Pluto trining you leo planets in the 9th especially trans Pluto trine natal venus and sun it seems it will someone whom you will share a intense relationship with and I also glanced at your solar return as well and your IC MC angles are heavly activated so I would say that it looks like a great move is coming or something positively changing on the home scene especially when trans Jupiter gets up there with Pluto in fire signs setting it off. I hope you are looking forward to it because you should. Please keep us updated to see how things unfold. Are you planning to switch jobs? Also are you planning a trip since the 9th is activatied you may go on a wonderful trip.

waterlilly
10-25-2007, 09:18 PM
Hi there Erinj

thanks for taking the time to respond to the post.

as you may have read I have just mov ed in to a large, lovely property. Jupiter was really shining on me with this one. However, this isn't perminant but, I could be here for a couple of years!

In adition I was actually born in this area. It's taken 36years to return home so to speak. In addition, i really feel like i belong here.


Planning a trip? hmm ...only in my head at the moment. but,would love to get away. A trip to the Antigua or somewhere hot and lush for a month or so would be amazing.

Also you mention changing jobs. I hope to explore....(in your inbox)

Thanks for the words of encouragement...

I look forward to the future

Peachy

starlink
10-26-2007, 09:22 AM
Hi Erinj,
Your observation of:

trans Pluto trine natal venus and sun
is indeed a valuable one, especially because Venus semi-sextiles Pluto in the natal chart. I am glad you looked into the Solar Return so now we have the situation of the moment seen from all sides. Cheers, Star.

starlink
10-26-2007, 12:07 PM
Hi Waterlilly, I forget to answer you on this one or did I in one of the PM's?


can i just clarifiy that you indicted December 1st and a great emotional
upset. would that be 2007?



Pluto, as you know, always brings great, deep down (psychological) turn-arounds. Maybe I worded the sentence a bit too dramatic (my Dutchy English!) . So yes, around that time (always difficult to pinpoint unless exact birthtime and Solar Arc directions and a hell of a lot of patience and calculations) something might take place that will could have an impact on your psychological set-up, maybe changing how you feel about yourself. Pluto will be exactly at 28° Sag. and trining your Venus, Sun, Mercury, three very important planets, dealing with your "Self", or the way you express yourself, your way of giving and receiving love, Venus and the way you will communicate, Merc. All these aspects could undergo a positive and deeprouted change, but not entirely without effort and determination (Pluto) and most certainly when Pluto changes signs lateron, end of January.

By the way, thanks for your kind words!Star

waterlilly
10-26-2007, 04:10 PM
Hey Starlink!


I'm sure it is to do with my mother. As i mentioned before some things are inevitable. It makes me very sad when i consider her death and being that physically cold. And what it will mean to our family as a unit. we;re not very close now!

I have been reading an insightful book about the death of a parent. It real life experiences of mid life adults who speak about the life changing effects it had on them. Real mid life crisis stuff. It's been an interesting read and made me cry at times. some of the relationships explored in the book are not at all rosey.

I know I have mentioned that I started counselling too. I'm just trying to work through some stuff and explore the impact that this may have upon me.
as you can imagine, i'm going over conversations we should have had and, maybe things I shouldn't have....Like my poem about my mother and I

I can't unsay what i've said once i've said it.


Thanks star