Is This Love Or War???!!!

[pluto 74]

Hi Everyone. I Just Broke Up After A 3 Year Relationship That Was Getting Really Serious.i Still Do Not Know If It Is Over But Please Take A Look At The Composite And Synastry Charts Attached!! I Do Not Know If This Is A Valid Relationship And I Do Not Know If The 2 Of Us Could Ever Be Together As A Couple. The Love We Feel Is Surely True And Extremely Strong But It Is Also A Great Power Struggle! What Do You Think. Please Advice!

[Catatonia]

Looks really strong to me...not just for nothing...but you know, if it's "over" then it is. If either of you (or both of you) don't want it to be, you should confront one another with that. You have to talk about it. I see you two feel extremely strong for one another most likely...see what you can come up with when you discuss this.

[pluto 74]

Catatonia thanks for answering. Do you really think it is easy to talk about it? For sure the feelings are strong but look at the oppositions of Jupiter and also the saturn position. Do you think such a relationship it could ever work?

[rahu]

hi 74
that stellium in scorpio with moon/mars/venus/merury/sun shows a very passionate,expressive relationship .the jupiter opposition can indicate a long term potential.but all the scorpio gives a selfish nature to the relationship and can over emphasize sexuality at the expense of love and caring.the saturn sqauer to the sun is obviously a problem as it indicates thet he his at itme cold and uncaring.it also makes him resistant to a steady relationship.the jupiter opposed to moon can indicate that there was a stress in the relationship as you were inclined toward stabilty.these last two aspect could have reacted against each other.
more troubling is the uranus/jupiter midpoint conjunct saturn,an aspect of instability and breakup.
also the pluto/mars and pluto/venus midpoints are opposed to chiron.this can increase the sexual intensity but it also brings cynicism and criticism into the relationship.this aspect often indciates that even after intimate connection, there arises a certain hostility.this is a non-nurturing aspect and indicates that he could

[rahu]

hi 74
that stellium in scorpio with moon/mars/venus/merury/sun shows a very passionate,expressive relationship .the jupiter opposition can indicate a long term potential.but all the scorpio gives a selfish nature to the relationship and can over emphasize sexuality at the expense of love and caring.the saturn sqauer to the sun is obviously a problem as it indicates thet he his at itme cold and uncaring.it also makes him resistant to a steady relationship.the jupiter opposed to moon can indicate that there was a stress in the relationship as you were inclined toward stabilty.these last two aspect could have reacted against each other.
more troubling is the uranus/jupiter midpoint conjunct saturn,an aspect of instability and breakup.
also the pluto/mars and pluto/venus midpoints are opposed to chiron.this can increase the sexual intensity but it also brings cynicism and criticism into the relationship.this aspect often indciates that even after intimate connection, there arises a certain hostility.this is a non-nurturing aspect and indicates that he could negate whatever intimate bonding occured with a callous remark that would show that he was comtempous of the relationship.
rahu

[pluto 74]

Thanks rahu. I agree with your analysis. It is a very difficult situation for me because although I see we have problems I still strongly want to be with her. It is like a mind-heart war inside of me. I guess a typical scorpio kind of thing. We always desire what we know it is probably not the right one! That is because we want it more.

[Catatonia]

Well, the real complexity with Saturn is shown in the composite. Aspects to/from Jupiter are usually easygoing. Jupiter opposite Saturn isn't the best and definitely not the worst placement in a synastry chart.

Composite is just another chart. Here's the deal. Nothing worth it is ever easy. So either you put your tail behind your legs and have a very long, elaborate convo with him. If he avoids it confront him. If he avoids it again confront him again until he talks. Don't stalk or anything, but really try to get him to talk. Saturn aspects tend to show committment and endurance. They might put tension in there, but things that are too easygoing have the possibility to fall apart quickly. I wouldn't worry about them too much.

Here's the reality; your Jupiter's dignified in his 4th (very intimate house) and his Saturn's in your 4th. That's a mutual sharing of important planets. Of course the Saturn in the 4th is very different than the Jupiter, but it's clear that the both of you share important intimacy. You have a lot of Scorp planets in common, many conjunctions, and many conjuncts to the angles: AC, DC, MC, and IC. Just the 1st, 7th, 4th, and 10th houses in themselves are important. And when I say important I mean forget the "2nd house begins at 10* and 3rd house begins at 23*" kind of thing. I mean WHOLE houses. Gemini WHOLE 1st house, Cancer WHOLE 2nd, etc. When you think of it that way, you two are REALLY strong on one another. QUit beating around the bush and talk to him. It's obvious that you don't want it to end so tell him and try to reason it out like two MATURE adults. If he doesn't want to be a mature adult and refuses to talk things out with you then he doesn't deserve you or your time. Good luck.

Cat