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08-28-2007, 10:04 AM
i was lookin at my chart and seeing with dismay that my 5th house and my 7th house are both empty ... does that mean i ll never find someone to love and be with?
i was married for 3 years and it was a bad deal... i should have known , having juno in 12th ...
will I marry again? should i look into the 9th house about second marriages?
or i should just give up relationships and hopes..?
i attach my chart here if someone wants to have a look at it and share insight :0) thank u
08-28-2007, 12:03 PM
Your 7th house is ruled by Saturn which might indicate marriage later in life. My 7th house is also ruled by Saturn and that's what I was told. Better late than never I guess!
08-28-2007, 03:59 PM
my 7th house are...empty
Your 7th house is not empty. Mercury is in your 7th house.
08-28-2007, 04:19 PM
First of all,astrology doesn't doom you to anything...You can doom yourself to something with your own beliefs but that's another story,I don't know about you but I don't personally think your natal chart is dooming you to anything...
As Vesta noted,your7th house is ruled by a detrimented Saturn,which can make relationships a tricky field.With Saturn in Aries conjunct your exalted Sun,there can be problems of selfishness in your relationships.With an also detrimented Mercury in your7th,the people you run into aren't probably the most recomendable but that doesn't mean you will be single forever,just that you will have to take your time,and will encounter your fair share of strugles along the way.Although,with the combination of the7th house Pisces Mercury and the detrimented Saturn as the ruler of your7th house cusp,I'd say you have a tendency to meet people who are very irresponsible and refuse to be held accountable for their actions.
08-28-2007, 05:31 PM
oh thank u for yr replies... i forgot about mercury but since is 5 deg from the 8th i always considered it in the 8th,,, I ALWAYS meet and get involved w either irresponsibles - like my ex husband- or very much younger partners than me.
so about second marriages should i look into the 9th?
how many chances do i have to 'marry' or that the man i ll be with , will be a taurus?
08-28-2007, 06:22 PM
About the ninth house, I'd say you might have an interest in foreigners? Maybe someone from abroad either living here or you meeting someone while travelling. Aries is in the 9th.
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
08-28-2007, 06:28 PM
is gotta be foreigner since i left my country over 10 years ago and i live in the uS now ,,but i am from italy..
been dealin w foreigners since then :)
08-29-2007, 03:25 PM
Hi Celeste? The rules usually are that you skip 2 houses for the next husband, so yes, the 9th would then be the second important relationship, the 11th the 3rd and so on. There is another famous astrologer , Carol Rushman, who takes the 11th house as the house for the next husband. She also writes that the number of applying aspects the Sun makes before leaving it's sign for a woman and the Moon (before leaving her sign) for a Man indicates the number of potental marriages, but is not necessarily the number of marriages the person will elect to have. The aspect of the Moon applying to the Sun in a natal horoscope indicates a potential marriage.Mercury and Venus can apply to the Sun, however, what happens is that these aspects are expresed most ofthen as close alliances that do not end up marrying. It seems to give possibility for marriage but not necessarily an actual marriage. The Sun and Moon applying to the Nodes indicates usually a very strong karmic relationship. You should keep in mind that the conjunction in these cases is the strongest, even if the applying aspect is further away then another applying aspect of the Sun (sextile for instance). This means that if you see a conjunction forming between the Sun and Jupiter for instance, and that aspect is a conjunction of say 6°, then that is going to be the first husband, instead of the sextile of only 3° with Mars. But all the aspects, applying and separating from the Moon and the Sun to other planets will somewhat describe all the partners someone normally attracts.This technique according to her does not work 100% of the time, but it is a useful guideline.
So in your case that would be:
1st husband, Karmic relationship (conjunction with the Moonnode at 7°)in Taurus (was your first man a Taurus man?)
2nd husband Venus conjunction at 8°40, again a Taurus
3rd very strong attraction but probably an extra marital or fling is Mercury in Pisces, so someone with strong Pisces in his chart
Then there are two inconjuncts which do not count (only major aspects) with Pluto and Uranus
Last one is the opposition at 26° to the Moon in Libra.
As you can see, the opposition happens first, but is not as important as the conjunctions, so they have priority. Therefore I say that the Moon comes in last.
You can either have all those guys or make your choice (according to Carol Rushman)-
08-29-2007, 06:04 PM
hi starlink! thank you so much for your reply... my choice would be to be with this taurus/aquarius if only he came back to me... i d be devoted to him forever ,,, and no flings... i have never felt before the soul connection i feel with him.
im a newbie so i dont understand all that applying of planets :) but here s the situation :
first husband was a scorpio/libra - here s his chart attached at the bottom- i was his third wife (..shoulda known better ?!?! lol )
second man which i m in love with but he disappeared saying 'i need some time'..'i have alot of baggage from my previous relationship..i need to be secluded for a while..' ,is gettin out of a relationship of 7 years with a leo ... we only been seein eachother for 9 months of which 3 being intimate,..he is the one i feel the karmic connection so strong... i can t believe with all this nodes and axises stuff going on between our charts he is out of my life :( but i feel that he s the one for me- [is possible to see in astrology if he s coming back?] unfortunately he s got saturn transit on his natal moon in 7th right now ... :OO
he is 9 years younger than me ... here is a link to our compo, synastry [and his chart as well]
thank you !!
Because the ruler of your 5th house (romance, love) is Jupiter in the 12th and it square your Moon- Mars, it seems like you (and you yourself said) continually are attracted to Men who are not marriage material. This is a common problem, but it is difficult to remedy, because attraction is both psychological and chemical. You have to figure out why you are attracted to "wrong men". You need someone you can respect, lean on if necessary and who can be your equal. If you keep attracting and being attracted to men who are weaker and more needy than you are, you will always be sort of a "mother" or "teacher" figure, and not a love image. You need a man who is your equal.
Read the book, "Are You the One for Me?" by Barbara D'Angelis.
You may find where you are making your mistakes.
It's not an astrology book, but it is brilliant.
09-13-2007, 08:38 AM
Hi Celeste, I have had little time lately, but today looked over your comparison chart. You might have felt a deep attraction to this man, but it would never turn out to be a good relationship I'm afraid. Very important for a good relationship is how the two people feel, if they feel good in each others company. Your Moons show this and the Moons are incompatible, yours in Air, his in Earth. He would stiffle you after a while. Then the Suns, also incompatible, even though that never really matters. Yours is Fire, his is Earth, again, the Earth puts out the Fire. Then the communication between you both, Incompatible Mercuries as well. You both have a different mentality that eventually will clash. Both your Venusses are conjunct which is one of the reasons of attraction, but your Venus squares his Asc. There is not one planet in his chart that makes an aspect to your Ascendant. His Mars falls in your 12th, always a sign of Karmic attraction, dangerous attraction. I have a book explaining Mars of the man in the 12th house of the woman and it says:
When the man's Mars falls in the 12th house of his female partner's horoscope a very critical relationship may exist between the two and unless the cross-aspects to mars are preponderantly favorable (his Mars is conjunct his Saturn and widely Squares his Uranus and Venus and squares his Chiron.)so this is not the case. He may not only discover her "Achilles Heel" but use the knowledge for his own benefit. He may know just how to play on her psychological weaknesses in order to upset her. and with Saturn in her 12th house the relationship could be difficult. He might expect her to be reliable and self-sufficient in those very areas where she is likely to be most vulnerable. He may work against her in secret to undermine her position and frustrate her plans (when his Saturn is badly aspected). On top of everything else, his Pluto is opposing your Sun from his 8th house, probably sex was more important to him than love. He could even have become violent towards you at a certain moment.
So you probably can be happy that he is out of your life.
09-13-2007, 05:51 PM
ok ... to all this add that my Karma asteroid is conjunct to his saturn in my 12th,and his Karma is opposite my sun saturn.
i am a very strong 'yang' person inside,thats why i attract 'yin' men.
im an aries /leo and i ve always been relied upon as the strong one.. i guess men see this in me ,even if i look very 'yin' estethically, but they sense i take alot of weight and responsibility on my shoulder...
i m not happy that hes out of my life... every day i miss him like is tearing me apart and i can t function, i cry myself to sleep, when i wake up and at work ... it must be karmic bcs the only way this makes sense is that i hurt him badly in past lives so the law of cause/effect is gettin to me.
i feel that one of us must break this karmic loop or i ll meet him again in the next life and hurt him in return ,perpetuating the cycle .
i wish he gave me a chance to work on the situation ,because like this there is no going further for any of us two, just a painful running in circles..
so that conjunc. u talk about-second husband Venus conjunction at 8°40, again a Taurus-
is not about him..?
thank u for yr reply ..
09-13-2007, 06:28 PM
Hi Celeste, I really dont know if the 2nd is (was) him, but if he was the 2nd great love, I guess he was. You must take this rule of Carol Rushman a bit with a grain of salt. In her own life it worked apparently and it is funny to try it out on your own chart. In my own chart the first aspect my Sun makes is an opposition to Moon in Taurus. I married a man with a Moon-Pluto conjunction, very dominant. The next man, whom I live with now, is represented by my Sun opposition Jupiter in Scorpio. My man is a Virgo but has a lot of Jupiter traits, no Scorpio traits, so you see, it does not always match. Aftêr that there is no other aspect, so I guess, I will only have 2 very important relationships in my life.So in your case, the person does not have to be a Taurus, he can have a Taurus Ascendant or a Taurus Stellium, anything Taurus that stands out. Now in your case, he was a Taurus. The first man maybe had something else Taurean in his chart? I would really look at that book "are you the one for me" that LIN mentioned. And something I keep on telling my daughter who is 35 and not yet married, yet as pretty as a picture (so what IS it???, probably also a lot of Yang, like you. So far only much younger guys or weak one's that lash out unexpectedly), I tell her that she should not look for a man to make her happy, he is not an instrument to use to make her happy. She should find satisfaction and happiness within herself, love the things she does "by herself" and do things that are making her happy. It is not someone elses task to fill that gap within us, we have to do it ourselves.(easier said then done, I know) That's why so many marriages break up, because after a while that gap is filled and oeps, you realize that the person who filled that gap is not really what you were looking for, it was a temporary patch-up. If you fill up that gap yourself, then you can see the other person for who he is and you can have a healthy relationship that lasts. Cheer up girl, no man should be cried over, honestly. I wish you lots of luck with the next man in your life, because there will be one so dont worry to much! Ciao, Star.
09-13-2007, 06:38 PM
hi.... you know is funny ,that s what he told me when he broke up w me-or sort of ,since he never said is over he just keeps me hangin and tellin me 'when the time is right we ll talk soon'... he said : theres nothin in the world i d like more than for you to be happy ,and i wanna see it, but please dont rely on myself or anyone else to make you happy... find it in yourself first...'
but the thing i loved to do the most was to create with him, we are into music and we were composing songs and it was so perfect,i cant find the same connection with another person,is like the lottery,so with the loss of him, what i love to do is impossible for me to achieve...
and being so intense i cant even compare it or replace it w any other thing..
i guess i can only wait for time to heal me...but it goes so slow...
he is a big love but we were together only 3 months,and for 9 we were just friends..
my x- husband had no taurus in his chart,but scorpio...same moon in virgo tho..
thank u and good luck to yr daughter too...
09-16-2007, 12:11 PM
i will add one example to this q of remaining single. following is the data of a indian girl not yet married.
dob nov. 7,1960
tob 00:06 ist night
here sun is 14sco21 and preparing to go in for trine with mars at 17can23.
will she ever marry
09-16-2007, 03:01 PM
Well Ramchandani, if Carol Rushman's rules do work, then I would say that there is a big chance that she still will find an important relationship in her life, but if it will result in marriage is never sure. You can have a couple of opportunities and if you dont take one, it does not result in marriage. If she takes this trine to Mars, then maybe she still will marry! Good luck to her! Also look in her natal chart if the ruler of the 7th makes an aspect to the ruler of her 3rd house. If it is a good aspect, yes, if it is a difficult aspect it can also be a yes, but with difficulties involved.If not, then the chances are smaller or not good. (I read this once in one of my astrology books.)
09-17-2007, 12:40 PM
thanks starlink. u can see that uranus lord of 7th and venus lord of 3rd make a trine. venus moves fast to complete the trine. do u think marriage is possible.
09-17-2007, 04:47 PM
Like I said before, it is pssible.
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